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2015-05-14 06:12:53 PM colette1 I dont have any college criets :( what should i do
2015-05-14 06:12:57 PM jyoung i dont have any question but ill stay log in im work on the paper n juper back in between
2015-05-14 06:13:00 PM kathyhughes Carrie how long have you been working in activitie????
2015-05-14 06:13:08 PM colette1 I do work as an CNA
2015-05-14 06:13:11 PM jcarey hopefully i dont just curious...dont know how extensive surgery will be yet untill they get in there
2015-05-14 06:13:12 PM carrie1 8 years
2015-05-14 06:13:42 PM kathyhughes So Carrie you will have MEPAP1, MEPAP2 and the experience so you can apply for ADPC
2015-05-14 06:13:52 PM kathyhughes at the end of this course
2015-05-14 06:14:00 PM jcarey what is adpc
2015-05-14 06:14:14 PM kathyhughes Activity Director Provisionally Certified
2015-05-14 06:14:21 PM kathyhughes Track 4 ADPC
2015-05-14 06:14:28 PM chloer1 if i dont have the college criets and just work and these two class can i still take the other test
2015-05-14 06:14:30 PM marym Do you know how much the test cost?
2015-05-14 06:14:33 PM jcarey did we go over that in mepap1
2015-05-14 06:14:39 PM kathyhughes yes
2015-05-14 06:14:41 PM carrie1 Gotcha< then work towards the college credits and ceu's to become adc?
2015-05-14 06:14:41 PM sarahdecollibus 90 test
2015-05-14 06:14:50 PM chloer1 ok
2015-05-14 06:14:53 PM kathyhughes $90 each time you take it
2015-05-14 06:15:00 PM kathyhughes Right Carrie!
2015-05-14 06:15:06 PM jyoung smh
2015-05-14 06:15:19 PM jcarey why
2015-05-14 06:15:19 PM kathyhughes OK...so some of you remember! YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2015-05-14 06:15:20 PM nancy60 enter the chat room
2015-05-14 06:15:21 PM marym Wow, I only want to take it once
2015-05-14 06:15:27 PM nancy60 hi everyone!
2015-05-14 06:15:29 PM chloer1 so we pay 90 to take it after this class
2015-05-14 06:15:33 PM kathyhughes Hello Nancy
2015-05-14 06:15:33 PM vickey hi nancy
2015-05-14 06:15:38 PM jyoung mor money school i love it lol
2015-05-14 06:15:46 PM nancy60 what is everyone chating about?
2015-05-14 06:15:49 PM kathyhughes Now Pat would like to talk about volunteers
2015-05-14 06:15:52 PM jyoung nothing i free i ee lol
2015-05-14 06:15:52 PM carrie1 ok< i thought i had to wait till i had accomplished all before taking the test
2015-05-14 06:15:54 PM patlec 90 dollars isn't that much
2015-05-14 06:16:01 PM vickey yes volunteers pleasse
2015-05-14 06:16:03 PM jcarey i agree
2015-05-14 06:16:10 PM kathyhughes So what about volunteers do you want to talk about???
2015-05-14 06:16:12 PM patlec yes
2015-05-14 06:16:35 PM patlec We never have to recruit volunteers they come to us
2015-05-14 06:16:37 PM nancy60 kathy, when we want to take another course to recertify later, a CEU, will we use our same password?
2015-05-14 06:16:47 PM jcarey i dont have alot of volunteers i need to recruit
2015-05-14 06:17:02 PM elizabeth same here
2015-05-14 06:17:04 PM kathyhughes You will need to register seperately for the contuniung ed
2015-05-14 06:17:11 PM tsmith same here
2015-05-14 06:17:12 PM vickey i try reaching out to some high schools
2015-05-14 06:17:24 PM marym what t
2015-05-14 06:17:24 PM patlec in our reading material for this week I was surprised that you need to market your facility
2015-05-14 06:17:25 PM nancy60 are the directions on the website?
2015-05-14 06:17:33 PM nancy60 to register for a class?
2015-05-14 06:17:33 PM colette1 as i no off we only a one volunteer
2015-05-14 06:17:46 PM kathyhughes actually it was about marketing your activities
2015-05-14 06:17:47 PM jcarey we have a marketing person specifically
2015-05-14 06:17:48 PM tsmith Senior Citizen centers are another place to get volunteers
2015-05-14 06:17:54 PM ileanaa Can I use the volunteers that are set in my facility, to do this week assigment?
2015-05-14 06:17:59 PM kathyhughes yes
2015-05-14 06:18:04 PM patlec yes that's what I meant
2015-05-14 06:18:16 PM kathyhughes So here is an example
2015-05-14 06:18:22 PM vickey ok
2015-05-14 06:18:26 PM chloer1 ok
2015-05-14 06:18:27 PM kathyhughes My grandmother was in a nursing home
2015-05-14 06:18:42 PM kathyhughes and we visited her on Saturdays
2015-05-14 06:18:43 PM marym Good night and best of luck to you all. I have to go get my daughter from school.
2015-05-14 06:18:56 PM tsmith When you get seniors in your community involved with your facility and they like what they see that is easy marketing a
2015-05-14 06:18:58 PM marym left the chat room
2015-05-14 06:19:01 PM kathyhughes How would I know that she attended activities during the week?
2015-05-14 06:19:03 PM vickey bye marym
2015-05-14 06:19:17 PM jcarey activity calendar documentation
2015-05-14 06:19:26 PM chloer1 oh
2015-05-14 06:19:30 PM chloer1 yeah
2015-05-14 06:19:30 PM ileanaa attendance records
2015-05-14 06:19:46 PM patlec ask to see the log of participation
2015-05-14 06:19:49 PM vickey you can ask the director, or attendace sheets
2015-05-14 06:19:56 PM kathyhughes REally???? I see the calendar and as a family member I don't see the documentation or the participation logs
2015-05-14 06:19:58 PM nancy60 kathy, when you worked in mental health, did you use volunteers?
2015-05-14 06:20:09 PM chloer1 or the ass like me i am there on saturdays
2015-05-14 06:20:12 PM kathyhughes and of course the staff tells me they don't know
2015-05-14 06:20:13 PM jcarey communication with staff
2015-05-14 06:20:23 PM kathyhughes Yes I did Nancy
2015-05-14 06:20:29 PM patlec your mother won't remember
2015-05-14 06:20:35 PM jcarey i always have my logs for family if they want to see it
2015-05-14 06:20:39 PM kathyhughes She did not
2015-05-14 06:20:51 PM sarahdecollibus invite them
2015-05-14 06:20:52 PM nancy60 I need to get volunteers, talk to our director of the facility. Thanks, kathy
2015-05-14 06:20:54 PM vickey ask the director or to see attendace log or you can ask other residents or volunteers
2015-05-14 06:20:57 PM tsmith The volunteers tell you, they see you out in public
2015-05-14 06:20:59 PM kathyhughes Seriously....do you think the families know that
2015-05-14 06:21:15 PM sarahdecollibus invite families
2015-05-14 06:21:16 PM jcarey i go over mine evry care conference
2015-05-14 06:21:17 PM chloer1 yea
2015-05-14 06:21:26 PM patlec no , they are all in denial
2015-05-14 06:21:30 PM kathyhughes The volunteers aren't suppose to talk about the residents because of HIPPA
2015-05-14 06:21:35 PM kimlin right
2015-05-14 06:21:41 PM kathyhughes My grandmother could not talk
2015-05-14 06:21:42 PM chloer1 so true
2015-05-14 06:21:46 PM jcarey then how did you know?
2015-05-14 06:21:48 PM kathyhughes so how would I know
2015-05-14 06:22:12 PM patlec by communication
2015-05-14 06:22:12 PM kathyhughes thats the question I am asking you to think about
2015-05-14 06:22:18 PM kathyhughes nope
2015-05-14 06:22:18 PM jcarey you didnt like our answers
2015-05-14 06:22:19 PM nancy60 ask to see the documentation
2015-05-14 06:22:20 PM vickey thats true but you could ask them if they escort your mom to activities
2015-05-14 06:22:50 PM kathyhughes So let me see if I can get you all to the AHA moment
2015-05-14 06:22:53 PM nancy60 look at the care plan
2015-05-14 06:23:00 PM chloer1 ok kathy
2015-05-14 06:23:08 PM patlec when ever I run into family members I tell them that mom went out to lunch or played bingo
2015-05-14 06:23:24 PM kathyhughes I am a family member I can't see the care plan and I can't come to your care plan meeting during the day because I work
2015-05-14 06:23:25 PM nancy60 care plan documentation
2015-05-14 06:23:41 PM kathyhughes As a family member I can't see the care plan
2015-05-14 06:23:46 PM patlec call the nursing desk
2015-05-14 06:23:46 PM sarahdecollibus callthem
2015-05-14 06:23:49 PM jcarey im totally stumped then
2015-05-14 06:23:54 PM vickey phone conference
2015-05-14 06:23:59 PM tsmith YOu can call in and ask to speak to someone
2015-05-14 06:23:59 PM kathyhughes Nursing doesn't know
2015-05-14 06:24:09 PM vickey with the id team
2015-05-14 06:24:11 PM kathyhughes they will say that they have no idea
2015-05-14 06:24:11 PM nancy60 a family member cannot see the care plan? Really?
2015-05-14 06:24:11 PM jcarey i agree kathy they dont know
2015-05-14 06:24:12 PM tsmith ask for the act. director.
2015-05-14 06:24:21 PM elizabeth in the marketing reading they said you should take picture of events are activities and give them to residents any crafts should be set up in residents room. I really lke the picture idea and have residents make a photo album
2015-05-14 06:24:21 PM kathyhughes Its Saturday
2015-05-14 06:24:31 PM tsmith I do get calls from the families at times
2015-05-14 06:24:46 PM kathyhughes You are so close Elizabeth! Good work
2015-05-14 06:24:59 PM elizabeth Thank you
2015-05-14 06:25:00 PM chloer1 i work on saturday i could talk to you
2015-05-14 06:25:05 PM kathyhughes What does the resident take with them from the activity?
2015-05-14 06:25:19 PM kathyhughes What do you give the resident to remember the activity?
2015-05-14 06:25:20 PM patlec have photo albums around facility with pictures on bulletin boards
2015-05-14 06:25:23 PM elizabeth arts and crafts
2015-05-14 06:25:23 PM jcarey prizes
2015-05-14 06:25:27 PM tsmith Either papers,puzzles ior other things'
2015-05-14 06:25:28 PM ileanaa the hands on
2015-05-14 06:25:31 PM vickey any craft or work they done
2015-05-14 06:25:33 PM elizabeth gifts and prises
2015-05-14 06:25:40 PM kathyhughes What can you leave in the residents room that says they are in activities?
2015-05-14 06:25:55 PM patlec notes
2015-05-14 06:25:55 PM elizabeth bingo bucks and quaters
2015-05-14 06:25:58 PM vickey work that the resident has done
2015-05-14 06:26:00 PM chloer1 puzzles and clay maybe bingo
2015-05-14 06:26:05 PM nancy60 this is totally different than what I do in mental health
2015-05-14 06:26:08 PM ileanaa a certificate of participation
2015-05-14 06:26:17 PM vickey or award
2015-05-14 06:26:20 PM kathyhughes Great Ileana
2015-05-14 06:26:37 PM kathyhughes or how about a picture of them in the activity
2015-05-14 06:26:45 PM ileanaa yes
2015-05-14 06:26:50 PM kathyhughes or a special item from the activity?
2015-05-14 06:26:54 PM susanr a certificate or pic for all activities?
2015-05-14 06:26:57 PM nancy60 so they show a family member with something tangible from the activity
2015-05-14 06:27:01 PM chloer1 oh yeah pictures help
2015-05-14 06:27:02 PM tsmith For every act. we give them a ribbon of attendance and they hang them up after so many they get a gift they pickfromthe gift box
2015-05-14 06:27:04 PM kathyhughes And yes it works in Mental Health
2015-05-14 06:27:07 PM elizabeth yes thats why I love the scrap booking idea
2015-05-14 06:27:11 PM ileanaa I have a picture board at the lobby with the week activities photos
2015-05-14 06:27:14 PM kathyhughes It does not have to be every activity
2015-05-14 06:27:18 PM chloer1 yeah i love tat
2015-05-14 06:27:19 PM chloer1 that
2015-05-14 06:27:24 PM patlec action shots
2015-05-14 06:27:32 PM tsmith no but it still shows that they did attend those activities
2015-05-14 06:27:38 PM kathyhughes but having something in the residents room helps get the point across
2015-05-14 06:27:39 PM ileanaa I used them for the life skills classes
2015-05-14 06:27:40 PM elizabeth yep
2015-05-14 06:27:44 PM chloer1 yeah
2015-05-14 06:27:45 PM susanr I like taking pictures and making collages of the activities
2015-05-14 06:27:48 PM jyoung true
2015-05-14 06:27:51 PM jcarey for every resident?
2015-05-14 06:27:52 PM tsmith It is still is something to show they did attend
2015-05-14 06:27:56 PM nancy60 that's a good idea, really. I'm the only person, but I can see how it encourages residents or patients to come to groups and feel proud at what they accomplish.
2015-05-14 06:27:56 PM kimlin scrapbooking too
2015-05-14 06:28:07 PM ileanaa I take group pictures
2015-05-14 06:28:12 PM kathyhughes For those residents who cannot tell that they have attended
2015-05-14 06:28:27 PM kathyhughes Although I used it for all 160 residents
2015-05-14 06:28:39 PM chloer1 nice
2015-05-14 06:28:40 PM nancy60 ileanaa, I like your picture board idea. Great!
2015-05-14 06:28:40 PM patlec I made a huge board once with pictures and some residents wanted their pictures off and staff was pisst off I didn't add them
2015-05-14 06:28:40 PM elizabeth wow
2015-05-14 06:28:41 PM kathyhughes They all had little things from activities
2015-05-14 06:28:45 PM sarahdecollibus I will tr this next week
2015-05-14 06:28:47 PM jcarey thats a great i honestly never even thought of doing something like that
2015-05-14 06:28:53 PM tsmith We do the pictures on the wall after each month so everyone can se the big act. that we do either a trip out or a cooking club or planting flowers
2015-05-14 06:29:05 PM colette1 thats agood idea tsmith
2015-05-14 06:29:06 PM kathyhughes that is why you leave it in their rooms Pat
2015-05-14 06:29:17 PM chloer1 thats nice that what i do for arts and carfts i like them keep the art i have never thought of it that way
2015-05-14 06:29:23 PM carrie1 group pics of activities are a great idea
2015-05-14 06:29:26 PM patlec I will try it again especially after Nursing home week we took so many pictures
2015-05-14 06:29:41 PM kathyhughes We also gave out invitations once a month
2015-05-14 06:29:43 PM nancy60 patlec, you should do what the residents want
2015-05-14 06:29:47 PM chloer1 nice
2015-05-14 06:29:48 PM kathyhughes to every resident
2015-05-14 06:29:54 PM kimlin nice
2015-05-14 06:30:13 PM jcarey thats a good task for a volunteer to do
2015-05-14 06:30:18 PM kathyhughes I had a special ladies group who would make the invitations every month
2015-05-14 06:30:20 PM chloer1 yes
2015-05-14 06:30:22 PM elizabeth yes it is
2015-05-14 06:30:28 PM kathyhughes they looked forward to it
2015-05-14 06:30:34 PM patlec can I ask a question in regard to care plans?
2015-05-14 06:30:39 PM kathyhughes yes
2015-05-14 06:30:40 PM sarahdecollibus great Idea!
2015-05-14 06:30:54 PM chloer1 your so smart
2015-05-14 06:31:14 PM patlec I was told by my old director that if a resident is on comfort care they have to have a care plan that states that
2015-05-14 06:31:20 PM carrie1 I tried the invitation idea. the residents responded well to it !
2015-05-14 06:31:23 PM kathyhughes thanks Chloe, but it comes with experience
2015-05-14 06:31:23 PM jcarey they do
2015-05-14 06:31:28 PM chloer1 yeah
2015-05-14 06:31:42 PM nancy60 kathy, when this class is over, are there other chats through Activity Director.org that we could chat with others for ideas, etc?
2015-05-14 06:31:58 PM patlec My problem is that some of my people on comfort care are a little bit active
2015-05-14 06:32:16 PM kathyhughes You should acknowledge that their status has changed and what are you doing to meet their needs and interests
2015-05-14 06:32:44 PM kathyhughes You need to have a specific activity program for them individualized
2015-05-14 06:32:58 PM kathyhughes so I guess my answer is Yes
2015-05-14 06:32:59 PM tsmith We had a lady on comfort care for a long time but she still got up everyday and wheeled herself around the unit
2015-05-14 06:33:00 PM patlec Now my new director doesn't want the care plan to say comfort care ,just to mention it in my notes
2015-05-14 06:33:02 PM chloer1 yeah that always helps
2015-05-14 06:33:11 PM kathyhughes That works too Pat
2015-05-14 06:33:30 PM patlec ok ...just needed clarification
2015-05-14 06:33:40 PM nancy60 what is comfort care? .....feeling stupid here.....\
2015-05-14 06:33:53 PM kathyhughes If that is what the director wants they own the problem if there is a problem
2015-05-14 06:34:28 PM kathyhughes Comfort Care is usually a resident with Hospice who had a diagnosis that is terminal
2015-05-14 06:34:36 PM chloer1 yea
2015-05-14 06:34:37 PM nancy60 okay, thanks
2015-05-14 06:34:49 PM vickey we call it crisis care
2015-05-14 06:34:59 PM kathyhughes and Yes Nancy NCCAP has a chat on Wednesday nights
2015-05-14 06:35:05 PM kathyhughes at 8 eastern
2015-05-14 06:35:19 PM kathyhughes that you can also use for continuing education
2015-05-14 06:35:20 PM nancy60 okay, cool, thanks. so I have to go to their website? NCCAP?
2015-05-14 06:35:20 PM elizabeth cool
2015-05-14 06:35:26 PM kathyhughes nccap.org
2015-05-14 06:35:29 PM chloer1 nice thank you so much
2015-05-14 06:35:34 PM nancy60 thank you!
2015-05-14 06:35:34 PM tsmith Well ladies I hate to go but I need to get back to work have a great nite and great weekend
2015-05-14 06:35:47 PM nancy60 bye tsmith....you too
2015-05-14 06:35:47 PM elizabeth you to
2015-05-14 06:35:55 PM chloer1 night
2015-05-14 06:35:56 PM vickey bye tsmith
2015-05-14 06:35:57 PM kimlin you too
2015-05-14 06:35:57 PM kathyhughes And as some of you know...NCCAP sponsors a FREE chat for National Activity Professionals week
2015-05-14 06:36:02 PM kathyhughes for 8 clock hours
2015-05-14 06:36:06 PM sarahdecollibus cool
2015-05-14 06:36:09 PM chloer1 nice
2015-05-14 06:36:11 PM kimlin didnt know that
2015-05-14 06:36:11 PM nancy60 when is that?
2015-05-14 06:36:13 PM chloer1 thanks
2015-05-14 06:36:13 PM vickey nice
2015-05-14 06:36:16 PM elizabeth cool
2015-05-14 06:36:23 PM ileanaa My biggest problem is that the care plan is done by the admission administrator. By the time I see it, it just a few words here and there, but is not discuss by the team. Them when I do my in assessment everyone gets irritarred with me because I'm telling them about the resiedents needs and wants
2015-05-14 06:36:28 PM kathyhughes so I would highly suggest that you join the NCCAP Facebook page
2015-05-14 06:36:28 PM carrie1 sounds good
2015-05-14 06:36:28 PM tsmith left the chat room
2015-05-14 06:36:39 PM nancy60 okay
2015-05-14 06:36:55 PM kimlin ok great(y)
2015-05-14 06:37:00 PM elizabeth okay
2015-05-14 06:37:01 PM susanr I did it's very informative
2015-05-14 06:37:33 PM kathyhughes WEll Ileana I would let them stew until they figure out that you have regulations as well and have to meet their needs and interests
2015-05-14 06:37:52 PM vickey (y)
2015-05-14 06:37:56 PM kathyhughes Thanks
2015-05-14 06:38:01 PM kathyhughes Next question
2015-05-14 06:38:03 PM colette1 only the department head attends the care planning
2015-05-14 06:38:08 PM nancy60 ileana you are just trying to do the right thing. Go girl!
2015-05-14 06:38:11 PM ileanaa thanks is nice to hear that....
2015-05-14 06:38:29 PM kathyhughes thats too bad Collette
2015-05-14 06:38:49 PM colette1 yes it is ,
2015-05-14 06:38:54 PM chloer1 i have a question
2015-05-14 06:39:00 PM kimlin ok again with this question, my boss wants me to apply for the Provisions first, Is that the first step?
2015-05-14 06:39:09 PM kathyhughes And that would bring us back to the original discussion......families will never see the care plan
2015-05-14 06:39:16 PM kimlin adpc or adc
2015-05-14 06:39:40 PM kathyhughes I always recommend that you apply for the highest level that you can Kim
2015-05-14 06:39:41 PM patlec I have a lot of short stay rehabs and they don't want anything to do with activities. I wait until they are settled before I do their assessments . Then like two weeks into rehab they are at every activity
2015-05-14 06:39:50 PM kimlin i guess since I dont have the english course?
2015-05-14 06:39:50 PM chloer1 and i lost it
2015-05-14 06:40:08 PM colette1 no one sees the care plan
2015-05-14 06:40:17 PM patlec I have to go back and change everything
2015-05-14 06:40:21 PM kathyhughes Lets talk about short term rehab
2015-05-14 06:40:32 PM colette1 rehab !!
2015-05-14 06:40:33 PM patlec I hate it
2015-05-14 06:40:35 PM kathyhughes They do not want to come to your activities!
2015-05-14 06:40:44 PM patlec never,
2015-05-14 06:40:44 PM jyoung once i have complete both is it ok to request a raise or would that be a bad thing
2015-05-14 06:40:46 PM vickey sometimes
2015-05-14 06:40:48 PM chloer1 no they dont
2015-05-14 06:40:50 PM sarahdecollibus nope
2015-05-14 06:40:51 PM elizabeth they don't where I work
2015-05-14 06:40:53 PM kathyhughes They are not concentration on coming to your activities
2015-05-14 06:40:59 PM kathyhughes they could care less
2015-05-14 06:41:00 PM chloer1 maybe if they feel like it but most of the time not
2015-05-14 06:41:17 PM sarahdecollibus they just want to go home!
2015-05-14 06:41:22 PM ileanaa I have gone through every resident book. ANd have spoken to the nurse that here and there comes to put her signature on them
2015-05-14 06:41:24 PM chloer1 yeah
2015-05-14 06:41:30 PM vickey they mostly say my main focus is theraphy to go home
2015-05-14 06:41:32 PM elizabeth same at my place
2015-05-14 06:41:36 PM kathyhughes So how about developing a short questionare that they can fill in about activities
2015-05-14 06:41:43 PM colette1 very true some of my residents thinks its only for old people lol
2015-05-14 06:41:56 PM jyoung lol thats funny
2015-05-14 06:41:57 PM jcarey i don tcare plan my therapy residents jusr a good clinical note
2015-05-14 06:41:58 PM elizabeth lol
2015-05-14 06:42:01 PM patlec they want to be left alone. Most of mine our from our Independent living side and look down on our assisted living residents
2015-05-14 06:42:03 PM chloer1 thats nice
2015-05-14 06:42:07 PM kathyhughes and I had a friend who is an activity professional who had a massive stroke at a dept head meeting
2015-05-14 06:42:15 PM kathyhughes she was in Rehab
2015-05-14 06:42:17 PM kimlin omg
2015-05-14 06:42:18 PM jyoung wow
2015-05-14 06:42:19 PM kathyhughes and you know what
2015-05-14 06:42:22 PM chloer1 what
2015-05-14 06:42:26 PM vickey what
2015-05-14 06:42:26 PM jyoung what\
2015-05-14 06:42:29 PM kathyhughes She did not want to go to activities
2015-05-14 06:42:33 PM kimlin wow
2015-05-14 06:42:37 PM jyoung wow
2015-05-14 06:42:38 PM vickey wow
2015-05-14 06:42:40 PM chloer1 wow
2015-05-14 06:42:41 PM kimlin because her age?
2015-05-14 06:42:45 PM nancy60 my experience is that most people don't do leisure activites at home except to watch TV and when you ask them what they like to do they have no idea.
2015-05-14 06:42:49 PM vickey why is that
2015-05-14 06:43:01 PM kathyhughes See physically the brain is making new connections during Therapy
2015-05-14 06:43:02 PM patlec I provide self -directed activites if they want
2015-05-14 06:43:02 PM carrie1 rehab residents prefer in room activities. I prob would as well.
2015-05-14 06:43:10 PM jyoung the younge we have is 51 right that so young but
2015-05-14 06:43:11 PM chloer1 yeah
2015-05-14 06:43:12 PM kathyhughes so she was exhausted afterwards
2015-05-14 06:43:13 PM jcarey we just had a 44yr old ms patient admitted ltc....very sad
2015-05-14 06:43:20 PM vickey me to patlec
2015-05-14 06:43:21 PM chloer1 they work them
2015-05-14 06:43:25 PM sarahdecollibus i can see that
2015-05-14 06:43:34 PM kimlin I see
2015-05-14 06:43:34 PM kathyhughes It is actually a physical response to the therapy
2015-05-14 06:43:48 PM chloer1 yeah they are so tired they just want to rest
2015-05-14 06:43:53 PM kathyhughes so activities is not on their "brain" so to speak
2015-05-14 06:43:54 PM kimlin wow
2015-05-14 06:43:59 PM kathyhughes so what we can do
2015-05-14 06:44:02 PM patlec Mine are usually contract holders
2015-05-14 06:44:10 PM chloer1 yeah getting better and getting home is

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