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2020-11-23 12:25:23 PM fillmorepam8 its a form that has a list of activities and you mark whether they participated, refused, slept, disruptive, etc
2020-11-23 12:25:29 PM thomasodougherty The link I posted has forms you could use.
2020-11-23 12:25:39 PM thomasodougherty https://www.activityconnection.com/forms-worksheets/Here it is again.
2020-11-23 12:25:52 PM lothropjoyce1 ok I will use this, thankyou so much
2020-11-23 12:26:05 PM fillmorepam8 is somebody at work that can help me tell joyce where to find it in pcc
2020-11-23 12:26:14 PM greenmj86 I am
2020-11-23 12:26:20 PM greenmj86 what does she need to find
2020-11-23 12:26:57 PM fillmorepam8 it is in clinical and then i think you have to click like POC and then activities
2020-11-23 12:27:25 PM lothropjoyce1 I do have forms from activity connection that the activity aids use and give to me then I add it to the careplans, for the residents who participated
2020-11-23 12:27:58 PM thomasodougherty When you say care plans, do you mean progress notes?
2020-11-23 12:28:11 PM lothropjoyce1 ok I will try this.
2020-11-23 12:28:15 PM greenmj86 Yes to chart Pamela
2020-11-23 12:28:47 PM lothropjoyce1 participation notes in the CAREPLAN
2020-11-23 12:29:02 PM lothropjoyce1 oops
2020-11-23 12:29:21 PM lothropjoyce1 yes progress note
2020-11-23 12:29:39 PM thomasodougherty Ah. Does your facility require you to do that? That seems redundant when you have the paper form that you should be holding on to for 7 years anyway.
2020-11-23 12:29:59 PM fillmorepam8 yes joyce the log will be so much better and waaayyy less time consuming
2020-11-23 12:29:59 PM lothropjoyce1 but I put it in participation, when I look it up I go to progress
2020-11-23 12:30:19 PM bobbieduke who often do yall add prosress note and why
2020-11-23 12:30:29 PM lothropjoyce1 Yes, I also file them and keep
2020-11-23 12:30:44 PM bobbieduke how not who
2020-11-23 12:31:05 PM lothropjoyce1 ok Im going to try this, thankyou so much for the info
2020-11-23 12:31:14 PM fillmorepam8 i do mine quarterly, sig change, annually unless it is something special i feel need to put notes in...you can use them anytime you feel the need
2020-11-23 12:31:21 PM thomasodougherty You may be doing too much work. I don't think you need to do it twice. I'll double check my notes when I'm at work again on monday and follow up with you.
2020-11-23 12:31:36 PM lothropjoyce1 Thankyou
2020-11-23 12:31:42 PM thomasodougherty Agreed, progress notes are used when something strikes you as needing to document.
2020-11-23 12:32:02 PM bobbieduke thank you
2020-11-23 12:32:04 PM thomasodougherty For instance, if you have a resident who acts out in an unusual during an activity.
2020-11-23 12:32:12 PM thomasodougherty *unsual way during...
2020-11-23 12:32:26 PM lothropjoyce1 ok, makes sense
2020-11-23 12:32:29 PM thomasodougherty I will also do one any time I review a Care Plan.
2020-11-23 12:32:39 PM fillmorepam8 yes
2020-11-23 12:32:51 PM thomasodougherty Or if I'm in contact with a family member, have a peculiar interaction, etc.
2020-11-23 12:34:51 PM fillmorepam8 30 more minutes lol
2020-11-23 12:34:56 PM lothropjoyce1 I', so glad I had this chat today. I really appreciate the feedback
2020-11-23 12:35:10 PM thomasodougherty Benefits of MDS... I still don't see any benefit that directly impacts our department.
2020-11-23 12:35:43 PM thomasodougherty I see value in the assessments and subsequently the Care Plan, but not MDS directly.
2020-11-23 12:35:44 PM greenmj86 I don't kow how everyone elses facilty works but i am the back up when social services is off
2020-11-23 12:35:51 PM lothropjoyce1 No me neither, I would much rather be on the floor with my residents
2020-11-23 12:36:28 PM fillmorepam8 joyce i will walk you through that tomorrow, you will love it..again i do it manual cuz i think its a pia in pcc cuz you have to click each activitys instead of doing them all at once
2020-11-23 12:36:34 PM greenmj86 Knowing how to properly work through the MDS is very beneficial to know what im up against when working in both departments
2020-11-23 12:36:47 PM thomasodougherty It definitely depends on the facility. Depending on which department is the most dependable is typically where responsibility falls.
2020-11-23 12:37:10 PM greenmj86 Unfortantely I have worked in every department
2020-11-23 12:37:14 PM lothropjoyce1 ok sounds good, thank you
2020-11-23 12:37:21 PM fillmorepam8 yes i agree tomas...its all about the money for mds and i feel nobody every goes back and looks
2020-11-23 12:37:26 PM greenmj86 so that may be why i have so much responsibilty
2020-11-23 12:37:53 PM thomasodougherty Could be it. Being a Jack/Jill of all trades can be beneficial, but also burdensome.
2020-11-23 12:37:59 PM lothropjoyce1 I also have a ton of responsibility,
2020-11-23 12:38:14 PM fillmorepam8 wow mjgreen yes mds is more beneficial to you then...social worker needs to review a lot
2020-11-23 12:38:21 PM thomasodougherty Truthfully, at least at the facilities I've worked in, Care Plans aren't even effectively utilized.
2020-11-23 12:38:28 PM lothropjoyce1 I also have my cna license
2020-11-23 12:38:44 PM greenmj86 I do as well Joyce
2020-11-23 12:38:55 PM lothropjoyce1 I really didn't have much training
2020-11-23 12:39:28 PM greenmj86 My facility utilize care plans for almost everything
2020-11-23 12:39:43 PM thomasodougherty How does MDS benefit you? I gather understanding how to complete it being beneficial so your MDS Coordinator doesn't harass you, but I don't ever refer to it once I've completed it.
2020-11-23 12:40:02 PM greenmj86 especially now we had to go through and care plan every resident on memory care for not being able to properly use mask
2020-11-23 12:40:15 PM lothropjoyce1 in mds, I winged it and asked questions until it made sense to me and I still don't know everythin, obviously
2020-11-23 12:40:35 PM fillmorepam8 agree everything should tie in with all the departments and honestly i do paperwork to make everyone happy and just go by what they want to do off the paper, it changes and is accurate when hands on....but the paperwork is necessary, mandatory and takes time away from what we should be doing
2020-11-23 12:41:15 PM fillmorepam8 it is nice when you need to know something to read what others say but they don't always document
2020-11-23 12:41:19 PM greenmj86 I work primarily on a memory care unit. I often look at what other disciplines care plan to help get a feel of a resident when i'm the activity assistant
2020-11-23 12:41:23 PM thomasodougherty It's nice having all of this stuff down on paper (electronic), but when the Team doesn't coordinate, it is all for not in the long run. Busy work, really.
2020-11-23 12:41:37 PM lothropjoyce1 I like being able to go into MDS anf finding out information that I might need
2020-11-23 12:41:49 PM bobbieduke i agree too much paper work talks away from time with residents
2020-11-23 12:42:11 PM thomasodougherty Ok, so you use MDS like I use the assessment. Same thing, different avenue.
2020-11-23 12:42:20 PM fillmorepam8 i have never gone back to mdss to find stuff out, just progress notes, orders and assessments
2020-11-23 12:42:37 PM greenmj86 Yea
2020-11-23 12:43:19 PM lothropjoyce1 I have a 3 question preference form, Preference F form, Evaluation form, demographics, and qaurterly's.
2020-11-23 12:43:26 PM thomasodougherty I like using the assessments directly, largely because I haven't memorised which section letter is for which department, but the ones I've worked in.
2020-11-23 12:43:56 PM fillmorepam8 we only do mds for initial, annual and sig change but not quarterly..is that for everyone?
2020-11-23 12:44:11 PM thomasodougherty Same for me.
2020-11-23 12:44:33 PM greenmj86 from my understanding a progress note is evaluated when doing mds so it kinda is a part of mds
2020-11-23 12:45:01 PM thomasodougherty No, progress notes won't pull to MDS. Only the Assessment.
2020-11-23 12:45:48 PM fillmorepam8 and again like you said section F does not really refelect who they are and i don't look at the other sections. I have done so many initiall assessments and F and then find out its the meds talking lol
2020-11-23 12:45:54 PM thomasodougherty I don't believe it even pulls in the opposite direction. For example in Section V when you need to indicate how you're going to Care Plan the behavior in question. That information doesn't automatically pull to the Care Plan for you.
2020-11-23 12:46:05 PM lothropjoyce1 so when a resiident is having behavoirs during my activity, thats when I should put that in the progress section in mds
2020-11-23 12:46:27 PM fillmorepam8 not mds...progress notes
2020-11-23 12:46:31 PM thomasodougherty Yes
2020-11-23 12:46:44 PM fillmorepam8 thomas...in the mds part?
2020-11-23 12:46:48 PM thomasodougherty No
2020-11-23 12:47:01 PM thomasodougherty There is no MDS Progress Note
2020-11-23 12:47:12 PM lothropjoyce1 yes, I understand MDS is sepereate. I get confused sometimes
2020-11-23 12:47:13 PM fillmorepam8 right
2020-11-23 12:47:40 PM thomasodougherty No worries, it's a lot of information and if you're all like me, you were on your own trying to make heads or tails of it all.
2020-11-23 12:48:00 PM lothropjoyce1 thats been me for the past year
2020-11-23 12:48:14 PM thomasodougherty Do you all have Activities Guidelines printed out?
2020-11-23 12:48:37 PM fillmorepam8 all of this can be confusing there are so many places...we have this quarterly thing wej have to do for our corporation call abaquis...anyone familiar?
2020-11-23 12:48:40 PM lothropjoyce1 like I said befiore, the MDS coordinator is really great in my facility
2020-11-23 12:49:04 PM thomasodougherty I've never heard of "abaquis".
2020-11-23 12:49:14 PM fillmorepam8 no I have not printed out guidelines...should i
2020-11-23 12:49:55 PM lothropjoyce1 I have not heard of that
2020-11-23 12:50:05 PM greenmj86 Abaqis
2020-11-23 12:50:20 PM greenmj86 yes
2020-11-23 12:50:21 PM thomasodougherty I think it helps. You can find an outline of all of our expectations if you do a Document Search, which is located in the top right corner of the Access Central Home Page that you would use to access Point Click Care.
2020-11-23 12:50:35 PM thomasodougherty I don't know of "Abaqis" either.
2020-11-23 12:50:40 PM fillmorepam8 i think its my corporation but it has a staff, resident, observ, family and one other section to fill out. its crazy and my point was there are so many places in pcc to find the information and everyone puts it in different places, it can be confusing
2020-11-23 12:51:09 PM fillmorepam8 mahalo thomas i will do tomorrow
2020-11-23 12:51:10 PM thomasodougherty I agree, Pamela. Everyone has their own way of doing things.
2020-11-23 12:51:37 PM thomasodougherty You can find Diretor responsibilities, Assistant, responsibilities, 1:1 information, etc.
2020-11-23 12:51:50 PM greenmj86 Pamela im starting to believe we work for the same company lol
2020-11-23 12:52:05 PM lothropjoyce1 interesting, I will check it out
2020-11-23 12:52:05 PM thomasodougherty Of course, you can't find "additional duties as assigned information"...
2020-11-23 12:52:08 PM fillmorepam8 mj lol
2020-11-23 12:52:25 PM lothropjoyce1 lol
2020-11-23 12:53:56 PM fillmorepam8 when everyonein every department has to document, they do it to get it dones and you can't always go by what you read..we as AD's know these people from our hearts
2020-11-23 12:54:10 PM thomasodougherty Something I've taken away from transitioning into Activities is that we fill an under appreciated role in our facilities. An important thing to do is cross your t's and dot you i's, just to cyoa. Then find a way to make an impact on those who truly need/value your time.
2020-11-23 12:54:27 PM greenmj86 Abaqis is like a quarterly evalution for quality assurance from corporate
2020-11-23 12:54:31 PM lothropjoyce1 that's for sure
2020-11-23 12:55:08 PM fillmorepam8 yes mj but twice as much...especially calling families and especially ince the rona
2020-11-23 12:55:44 PM bobbieduke well said thomas lol
2020-11-23 12:56:27 PM lothropjoyce1 This has been so beneficial, thankyou everyone with such great information. I really appreciate it. I will keep you all posted.
2020-11-23 12:57:09 PM thomasodougherty I think we've done it folks. All that's left now is posting our names to the assignment forum.
2020-11-23 12:57:09 PM greenmj86 oh yea the family, the observations, and the questions
2020-11-23 12:57:17 PM fillmorepam8 I hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving. I told facebook I am have macaRona salad and MD2020
2020-11-23 12:57:19 PM lothropjoyce1 Thankyou all for attending my discussion, it was great talking with you's. I was really nervous
2020-11-23 12:57:32 PM thomasodougherty If you all write out your names I'll copy and paste them there.
2020-11-23 12:57:45 PM fillmorepam8 Pam Fillmore
2020-11-23 12:57:50 PM greenmj86 Michelle Green
2020-11-23 12:57:58 PM lothropjoyce1 Happy Thanksgiving!!
2020-11-23 12:57:59 PM thomasodougherty Unless, I'm over stepping Joyce. If you'd like to do it since you organized this.
2020-11-23 12:58:06 PM bobbieduke Bobbie Duke
2020-11-23 12:58:08 PM greenmj86 Happy Thanksgiving
2020-11-23 12:58:26 PM lothropjoyce1 Beverly Joyce Lothrop
2020-11-23 12:58:35 PM thomasodougherty Pam FillmoreMichelle GreenBobbie DukeThomas O'DoughertyBeverly Joyce Lothrop
2020-11-23 12:59:00 PM fillmorepam8 Aloha peepz...I'm out!
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2020-11-23 12:59:15 PM thomasodougherty Take care, All
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2020-11-23 01:00:04 PM bobbieduke thank everyone it back to work Bye(Tp)
2020-11-23 01:00:11 PM lothropjoyce1 Thank you I wouldn't even of known to do this..
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2020-11-23 06:47:36 PM dianes Can anyone tell me how to get ahold of the Instructor? I have emailed her but am not getting any results. Obviously I am doing something right.!!!
2020-11-23 06:49:30 PM dianes wrong not right
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2020-11-24 07:27:08 PM cchase I am your instructor - my email - celestechase@activitydirector.org
2020-11-24 07:27:40 PM cchase regulations chat is in the specialty room
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2020-11-24 09:34:16 PM annan Hello is this our online class ?
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2020-11-24 09:48:40 PM annan I don't understand this class no one is in here.
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2020-11-26 07:26:31 PM lboffeli I am here is there a chat tonight
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