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2020-10-27 07:03:25 PM tinacognato yes
2020-10-27 07:03:27 PM debbief82 Yes
2020-10-27 07:03:28 PM judithdevin yes
2020-10-27 07:03:30 PM mleague ready
2020-10-27 07:03:32 PM dianes yep
2020-10-27 07:03:33 PM shedenaalexander ready
2020-10-27 07:03:37 PM kellyryan ready
2020-10-27 07:03:44 PM wmcollins ready
2020-10-27 07:03:47 PM paigea short term memory is the first to go?
2020-10-27 07:03:50 PM yvettemlopez ready
2020-10-27 07:04:03 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:04:05 PM anavillicana ypu
2020-10-27 07:04:31 PM cchase picture this --- you create a doc. on your computer then give it a name and file it away so you can bring it back when you want it
2020-10-27 07:04:41 PM cchase right?
2020-10-27 07:04:43 PM debbief82 Is it because the long term memory is at the beginning of the neuron and that's why it's last to go?
2020-10-27 07:04:45 PM tinacognato yup
2020-10-27 07:04:45 PM wmcollins yes
2020-10-27 07:04:46 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:04:46 PM yvettemlopez right
2020-10-27 07:04:50 PM annettep sure
2020-10-27 07:04:51 PM jeanneb yes
2020-10-27 07:04:52 PM paigea right
2020-10-27 07:04:53 PM judithdevin right
2020-10-27 07:05:01 PM shedenaalexander yes
2020-10-27 07:05:04 PM dianes thats interesting
2020-10-27 07:05:23 PM cchase so now your computer gets a virus - you want to retrieve that doc. but the computer cannot locate it
2020-10-27 07:05:31 PM wmcollins ok
2020-10-27 07:05:34 PM cchase even with the file name
2020-10-27 07:05:35 PM melissabarrett ok
2020-10-27 07:05:36 PM yvettemlopez thats bad
2020-10-27 07:05:37 PM jeanneb nice
2020-10-27 07:05:43 PM tinacognato familiar
2020-10-27 07:05:45 PM cchase the path to find it is lost
2020-10-27 07:05:48 PM annettep no
2020-10-27 07:05:58 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:06:02 PM cchase so with Alz - it is similar
2020-10-27 07:06:10 PM melissabarrett ok
2020-10-27 07:06:10 PM jeanneb ok
2020-10-27 07:06:12 PM judithdevin ok
2020-10-27 07:06:15 PM wmcollins ok
2020-10-27 07:06:18 PM annettep I can picture that perfectly
2020-10-27 07:06:22 PM cchase memories created before the onset of the disease get filed away
2020-10-27 07:06:27 PM tinacognato great analogy
2020-10-27 07:06:27 PM shedenaalexander internal memory file
2020-10-27 07:06:29 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:06:39 PM wmcollins yes
2020-10-27 07:07:27 PM cchase they are save guarded before Alz- so they are safe for a time
2020-10-27 07:07:32 PM debbief82 So they can only remember things prior to the disease?
2020-10-27 07:07:42 PM melissabarrett forever
2020-10-27 07:07:56 PM annettep oh, okay
2020-10-27 07:08:00 PM cchase the things prior to the disease feel like recent memories
2020-10-27 07:08:07 PM judithdevin oh
2020-10-27 07:08:13 PM cchase this is called long term memory
2020-10-27 07:08:22 PM jeanneb not forever they eventully go?
2020-10-27 07:08:33 PM cchase that is correct jeanne
2020-10-27 07:08:48 PM melissabarrett ok
2020-10-27 07:08:52 PM cchase eventually they cannot be accessed at all b/c of Alz
2020-10-27 07:08:58 PM dianes I always wondered about the, quite interesting.
2020-10-27 07:09:00 PM yvettemlopez ok
2020-10-27 07:09:06 PM jeanneb it is sad
2020-10-27 07:09:20 PM debbief82 It must be so confusing to them remembering things from long ago but living in a different environment that wasn't long ago.
2020-10-27 07:09:21 PM anavillicana Won't their long-term memory eventually go too during their final stages of alzheimer?
2020-10-27 07:09:22 PM cchase so now with Alz- no more memories can get saved in the brains memories
2020-10-27 07:09:33 PM cchase Alz has blocked th pathway to save it
2020-10-27 07:09:37 PM shedenaalexander :'(
2020-10-27 07:10:01 PM debbief82 Makes perfect sense.
2020-10-27 07:10:08 PM cchase yes - eventually LTM or long term memories are not retrievable
2020-10-27 07:10:21 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:10:23 PM cchase so now you have STM - short term memory
2020-10-27 07:10:30 PM melissabarrett ok
2020-10-27 07:10:49 PM wmcollins yes
2020-10-27 07:10:50 PM annettep which easily gets lost
2020-10-27 07:10:50 PM debbief82 That 's why they say you revert back to being child/baby like
2020-10-27 07:10:53 PM cchase b/c the brain cannot save anything - even five mins or one min. ago
2020-10-27 07:11:12 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:11:13 PM cchase the pathway has been block by Alz
2020-10-27 07:11:28 PM judithdevin ok
2020-10-27 07:11:32 PM tinacognato this differs from dementia how?
2020-10-27 07:11:32 PM cchase you need to understand this to work with this population
2020-10-27 07:11:37 PM wmcollins makes sense
2020-10-27 07:11:39 PM cchase good question
2020-10-27 07:11:44 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:11:50 PM yvettemlopez yes
2020-10-27 07:11:52 PM cchase tina - dementia is a symptom of Alz
2020-10-27 07:12:05 PM cchase dementia is also a symptom of other diseases
2020-10-27 07:12:20 PM tinacognato ...so interwoven
2020-10-27 07:12:23 PM annettep parkinsons
2020-10-27 07:12:35 PM cchase alcohol abuse, meds interactions, yes parkinson
2020-10-27 07:12:47 PM cchase so dementia is not the disease
2020-10-27 07:13:03 PM wmcollins wow
2020-10-27 07:13:03 PM cchase dementia related to Alzheimer's would be correct
2020-10-27 07:13:17 PM cchase or dementia r/t parkinsons' would be correct
2020-10-27 07:13:18 PM tinacognato got it. although i believe i already knew that it still confuses me
2020-10-27 07:13:29 PM debbief82 So alzheimers is the disease?
2020-10-27 07:13:30 PM amiller20 ok
2020-10-27 07:13:33 PM shedenaalexander ok
2020-10-27 07:13:35 PM cchase are you still confused??
2020-10-27 07:13:55 PM cchase yes debbie - alz is the disease that has the capacity to cause dementia
2020-10-27 07:14:34 PM cchase look up diseases that cause dementia
2020-10-27 07:14:54 PM cchase fact is Alzheimer's is the most well known
2020-10-27 07:14:59 PM shedenaalexander Does all patients with Alz. suffer from dementia
2020-10-27 07:15:22 PM jeanneb huntington's
2020-10-27 07:15:40 PM cchase yes jeanne good
2020-10-27 07:15:43 PM tinacognato i do believe ive a better understanding. Alz is the disease... causes mental and physical symptoms, dementia is only mental?
2020-10-27 07:15:57 PM cchase yes - Alz almost alway caused dementia
2020-10-27 07:16:14 PM cchase good tina
2020-10-27 07:16:41 PM dianes Cant dementia causes other things
2020-10-27 07:16:44 PM cchase so keep this in mind and don't get too fustrated with your residents
2020-10-27 07:16:49 PM melissabarrett that makes sense tina thanks
2020-10-27 07:16:55 PM annettep I always thought that dementia is a blanket term for different types of related disease, alzheimers beign one of them
2020-10-27 07:17:02 PM cchase dementia = memory loss
2020-10-27 07:17:19 PM shedenaalexander got It
2020-10-27 07:17:26 PM yvettemlopez ok
2020-10-27 07:17:29 PM dianes ok
2020-10-27 07:17:35 PM melissabarrett understand
2020-10-27 07:17:41 PM amiller20 ok
2020-10-27 07:17:44 PM debbief82 Is dementia just short term memory loss?
2020-10-27 07:17:46 PM jeanneb yes
2020-10-27 07:17:50 PM cchase some dementia is reversable - alcohol - medication interactions
2020-10-27 07:17:51 PM kellyryan got it
2020-10-27 07:18:10 PM paigea ok
2020-10-27 07:18:17 PM cchase dementia is memory loss - short term memory loss is related to Alz
2020-10-27 07:18:59 PM cchase cause other diseases cause dementia and Alz prevents new memory from being stored
2020-10-27 07:19:12 PM cchase which is short term memory
2020-10-27 07:19:24 PM tinacognato i forgot
2020-10-27 07:19:25 PM tinacognato lol
2020-10-27 07:19:29 PM jeanneb ALZ
2020-10-27 07:19:33 PM cchase tina !!!!
2020-10-27 07:20:13 PM cchase ok so knowing this - you now know why your residents LOVE old time songs
2020-10-27 07:20:29 PM yvettemlopez they remember them
2020-10-27 07:20:31 PM cchase they recall the melody or for some the words
2020-10-27 07:20:32 PM jeanneb absolutly
2020-10-27 07:20:36 PM shedenaalexander long-termed memory
2020-10-27 07:20:38 PM wmcollins have them listen to them all the time
2020-10-27 07:20:38 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:20:44 PM paigea yes
2020-10-27 07:20:44 PM cchase before onset of the disease
2020-10-27 07:20:50 PM annettep I do know people remember songs better then anything else
2020-10-27 07:20:51 PM yvettemlopez yes
2020-10-27 07:20:52 PM cchase yup LTM
2020-10-27 07:20:58 PM wmcollins LTM
2020-10-27 07:21:18 PM cchase they LOVE lullaby - school days songs
2020-10-27 07:21:30 PM wmcollins good to know
2020-10-27 07:21:31 PM melissabarrett yes they do
2020-10-27 07:21:38 PM judithdevin true
2020-10-27 07:21:38 PM jeanneb yes they do
2020-10-27 07:21:40 PM cchase ok so more - ready??
2020-10-27 07:21:46 PM melissabarrett ok
2020-10-27 07:21:46 PM annettep yep
2020-10-27 07:21:47 PM jeanneb yes
2020-10-27 07:21:48 PM tinacognato yes please
2020-10-27 07:21:49 PM paigea yes
2020-10-27 07:21:50 PM mleague yes
2020-10-27 07:21:50 PM kellyryan yes
2020-10-27 07:21:51 PM yvettemlopez yes
2020-10-27 07:21:52 PM debbief82 Bring it on
2020-10-27 07:21:58 PM wmcollins music going even farther than the teens and 20s
2020-10-27 07:21:59 PM josephoh79 yes
2020-10-27 07:22:24 PM cchase science has discovered that their is one place in the brain that seems to be last to be affected by ALz
2020-10-27 07:22:36 PM shedenaalexander I have a resident that sing s a song and have taught me the song..I was singing it one day another resident say your way too young to know that song...lol
2020-10-27 07:22:41 PM cchase anyone know
2020-10-27 07:22:55 PM tinacognato emotion?
2020-10-27 07:22:57 PM annettep hearing
2020-10-27 07:23:02 PM jeanneb hearing
2020-10-27 07:23:06 PM melissabarrett seeing
2020-10-27 07:23:20 PM shedenaalexander hearing
2020-10-27 07:23:23 PM tinacognato childhood memories?
2020-10-27 07:23:27 PM cchase The limbic system is a brain area, located between the brain stem and the two cerebral hemispheres, that governs emotion and memory. It includes the amygdala, the hypothalamus, and the hippocampus.
2020-10-27 07:24:00 PM cchase so it seems that EMOTIONS are more protected
2020-10-27 07:24:07 PM judithdevin ok
2020-10-27 07:24:07 PM cchase good tina
2020-10-27 07:24:10 PM tinacognato YEAH ME
2020-10-27 07:24:27 PM cchase the problem is this ....
2020-10-27 07:24:30 PM melissabarrett yes thats a good thing
2020-10-27 07:24:47 PM cchase they feel said - happy - angry all those emotions
2020-10-27 07:24:53 PM anavillicana They don't know how to express their emtions?
2020-10-27 07:25:08 PM mleague like a toddler
2020-10-27 07:25:09 PM cchase but the brain is unable to process why they feel these emotions
2020-10-27 07:25:18 PM tinacognato these emotions are without cause
2020-10-27 07:25:24 PM tinacognato sometimes
2020-10-27 07:25:27 PM cchase the brain cannot rationalize them
2020-10-27 07:25:31 PM debbief82 it's such a horrible disease
2020-10-27 07:25:47 PM cchase there is a cause but they don't know what it was
2020-10-27 07:25:47 PM melissabarrett wow
2020-10-27 07:26:01 PM yvettemlopez got it
2020-10-27 07:26:04 PM cchase so you feel angry and don't know why you feel angry
2020-10-27 07:26:08 PM tinacognato i had a conversatioin with someone today ..they told me they were mad and did not know why
2020-10-27 07:26:19 PM amiller20 left the chat room
2020-10-27 07:26:20 PM cchase yup tina
2020-10-27 07:26:24 PM cchase very common
2020-10-27 07:26:43 PM cchase but knowing that means it could be a tool
2020-10-27 07:26:50 PM cchase how??
2020-10-27 07:26:54 PM dianes left the chat room
2020-10-27 07:26:57 PM tinacognato so i suggested we do something to make her happy, I wipped out the joke book and after the third knock knock joke she forgot she was mad
2020-10-27 07:27:00 PM shedenaalexander how
2020-10-27 07:27:10 PM melissabarrett ??
2020-10-27 07:27:10 PM mleague change the subject
2020-10-27 07:27:16 PM cchase well - that was pretty good going tina
2020-10-27 07:27:19 PM shedenaalexander ok Tina
2020-10-27 07:27:20 PM jeanneb redircetiopn
2020-10-27 07:27:26 PM judithdevin nice tina
2020-10-27 07:27:29 PM anavillicana Ask how you can help
2020-10-27 07:27:30 PM cchase yes folks - redirect - good jeanne
2020-10-27 07:27:30 PM kellyryan good thinking
2020-10-27 07:27:43 PM debbief82 That's what I was thinking Tina. If they can have a mad emotion why not try to change the emotion.
2020-10-27 07:27:45 PM annettep talk about family
2020-10-27 07:27:48 PM cchase redirection is amazing tool
2020-10-27 07:28:13 PM tinacognato it is my most use tool
2020-10-27 07:28:16 PM cchase one resident wanted to go out in the pouring rain - no one was going to stop him
2020-10-27 07:28:20 PM annettep STM makes them forget real easy
2020-10-27 07:28:39 PM wmcollins I wil make sure I start using redirection now !
2020-10-27 07:28:46 PM shedenaalexander lets go find an umbrella first
2020-10-27 07:28:54 PM cchase so we offered to make peanut butter & jelly sandwiches and he did a turnabout and went into the kitchen
2020-10-27 07:28:55 PM tinacognato yes shed
2020-10-27 07:28:55 PM melissabarrett its a very good thing
2020-10-27 07:29:11 PM wmcollins too cool! love it !#
2020-10-27 07:29:17 PM wmcollins fantastic
2020-10-27 07:29:24 PM annettep I got a lady out of the vanby telling her her daughter is calling her on the phone
2020-10-27 07:29:28 PM jeanneb what ever works
2020-10-27 07:29:38 PM cchase use redirection all day long - it works
2020-10-27 07:29:39 PM paigea ive had some residents get angry at u for trying to redirect them.
2020-10-27 07:29:50 PM yvettemlopez yep
2020-10-27 07:29:50 PM amiller20 enter the chat room
2020-10-27 07:29:56 PM cchase you cannot make it obvious paige
2020-10-27 07:30:09 PM cchase they are NOT children and they know it
2020-10-27 07:30:28 PM cchase here is a case study - ready??
2020-10-27 07:30:28 PM tinacognato it pays big to know the individuals, there turn ons and turn off and they can be powerful in redirection
2020-10-27 07:30:33 PM annettep yes
2020-10-27 07:30:33 PM jeanneb they are adults i have to tell staff all the time
2020-10-27 07:30:37 PM yvettemlopez yep
2020-10-27 07:30:37 PM shedenaalexander Ready
2020-10-27 07:30:44 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:30:46 PM jeanneb yyes
2020-10-27 07:30:48 PM judithdevin yes
2020-10-27 07:30:51 PM kellyryan ready
2020-10-27 07:30:54 PM wmcollins ready
2020-10-27 07:30:58 PM anavillicana k
2020-10-27 07:31:28 PM cchase Mary always picks mom up on Wed. to go out to dinner - this day when Mary got to get her mom - she was already dressed in her coat to go out
2020-10-27 07:31:57 PM cchase Mary took her mom to a restaurant - when they got to the table Mary took off her coar
2020-10-27 07:32:01 PM cchase coat
2020-10-27 07:32:12 PM cchase so Mary's mom did the same thing
2020-10-27 07:32:18 PM cchase but
2020-10-27 07:32:33 PM tinacognato no shirt?
2020-10-27 07:32:41 PM cchase Mary's mom only had a bra and slip on - nothing else
2020-10-27 07:32:48 PM annettep oops
2020-10-27 07:32:52 PM debbief82 Oh no!
2020-10-27 07:32:56 PM jeanneb goof times
2020-10-27 07:32:59 PM melissabarrett oh my
2020-10-27 07:33:01 PM cchase so what do you do?????
2020-10-27 07:33:14 PM melissabarrett put my coat back on
2020-10-27 07:33:19 PM kellyryan mary put her coat back on?
2020-10-27 07:33:19 PM anavillicana coat back on
2020-10-27 07:33:21 PM judithdevin coat on
2020-10-27 07:33:26 PM shedenaalexander Put Coat back on
2020-10-27 07:33:27 PM yvettemlopez coat back on
2020-10-27 07:33:33 PM tinacognato tell her its really cold in here and put your coat back on with along with hers
2020-10-27 07:33:36 PM jeanneb oh my goodness. mary should put her coat on
2020-10-27 07:33:36 PM debbief82 Mary should put her coat back on so her mom will do the same.
2020-10-27 07:33:55 PM cchase good - good
2020-10-27 07:33:57 PM annettep Put my coat back on and tell her youe forgot something and we need to go get it, Hopefully she will out her coat back on too
2020-10-27 07:34:06 PM cchase yes - that is called mirroring
2020-10-27 07:34:08 PM tinacognato sweat it out for moms sake
2020-10-27 07:34:35 PM cchase Mary's mom will see her daugther put her coat on and do the same automatically
2020-10-27 07:34:38 PM wmcollins mirroring ...yes :)
2020-10-27 07:34:45 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:34:56 PM cchase they tend to mirror what you do
2020-10-27 07:34:59 PM yvettemlopez my aunt has to wirite down every time she takes her meds and eats a meal
2020-10-27 07:35:05 PM shedenaalexander Mirroring makes sense
2020-10-27 07:35:07 PM judithdevin we use mirroring in the dining room when gthey see others eat they tend to eat better than they would if they were not seated withothers to follow what they are doing
2020-10-27 07:35:11 PM cchase this is also a good tool for exercises
2020-10-27 07:35:18 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:35:43 PM tinacognato its my morning every morning..almost like simon says without the whammy"didnt say"
2020-10-27 07:35:45 PM annettep You mean I have to exercise too!
2020-10-27 07:35:45 PM cchase hold your hands up - they do that too - move your arms in a circle - they often follow
2020-10-27 07:35:54 PM shedenaalexander I like it.
2020-10-27 07:36:06 PM tinacognato lol Anne
2020-10-27 07:36:07 PM cchase annette
2020-10-27 07:36:19 PM cchase hmmmm
2020-10-27 07:36:27 PM annettep I do all the time
2020-10-27 07:36:32 PM cchase use this it works -
2020-10-27 07:36:39 PM melissabarrett ok
2020-10-27 07:36:42 PM jeanneb yes it does
2020-10-27 07:36:46 PM yvettemlopez yes
2020-10-27 07:36:54 PM wmcollins I will try that in the morining
2020-10-27 07:36:56 PM shedenaalexander Surely
2020-10-27 07:37:15 PM shedenaalexander I see it all the time
2020-10-27 07:37:25 PM cchase I go right up to a resident - and put my hands up - I ask them to hold their hands up - then they follow
2020-10-27 07:37:44 PM cchase you move your hips side to side - they will too
2020-10-27 07:38:06 PM shedenaalexander m going to exercise mirroring on a few residents tommorrow
2020-10-27 07:38:16 PM cchase ok so one last thing?? ready?
2020-10-27 07:38:21 PM judithdevin yes
2020-10-27 07:38:22 PM melissabarrett ready
2020-10-27 07:38:24 PM jeanneb ok
2020-10-27 07:38:26 PM kellyryan ready
2020-10-27 07:38:27 PM debbief82 Ready
2020-10-27 07:38:29 PM yvettemlopez yes
2020-10-27 07:38:29 PM mleague yes
2020-10-27 07:38:30 PM shedenaalexander yes
2020-10-27 07:38:32 PM anavillicana yup
2020-10-27 07:38:32 PM wmcollins yes
2020-10-27 07:39:06 PM cchase watch out for busy floor patterns - depth perception is often a problem and they see lines or patterns as cracks -
2020-10-27 07:39:29 PM cchase same with a rug on the floor - that could turn into a hole in the floor
2020-10-27 07:39:30 PM judithdevin interesting
2020-10-27 07:39:45 PM cchase I want you all to do something
2020-10-27 07:39:50 PM melissabarrett oh yes
2020-10-27 07:39:56 PM annettep okay
2020-10-27 07:39:57 PM melissabarrett ok
2020-10-27 07:39:59 PM yvettemlopez sure
2020-10-27 07:40:03 PM mleague ok
2020-10-27 07:40:03 PM tinacognato im game
2020-10-27 07:40:10 PM paigea ok
2020-10-27 07:40:11 PM shedenaalexander ok
2020-10-27 07:40:13 PM cchase utube has a virtual dementia tour - VDT series
2020-10-27 07:40:15 PM wmcollins ok
2020-10-27 07:40:18 PM debbief82 I've heard of putting a large circle by an outgoing door so they don't go close to the door because they think it's a hole
2020-10-27 07:40:30 PM wmcollins ok I will do that tonight
2020-10-27 07:40:32 PM judithdevin ok
2020-10-27 07:40:37 PM cchase watch it..... it helps you understand what your resident sees
2020-10-27 07:40:38 PM tinacognato neat
2020-10-27 07:40:41 PM jeanneb sounds fun
2020-10-27 07:40:53 PM annettep oh cool
2020-10-27 07:40:54 PM amiller20 ok
2020-10-27 07:40:54 PM melissabarrett ok
2020-10-27 07:40:59 PM yvettemlopez will do
2020-10-27 07:41:00 PM shedenaalexander ok
2020-10-27 07:41:07 PM judithdevin will do
2020-10-27 07:41:07 PM cchase feels - it brings you to his world - which is a good segway to the next topic
2020-10-27 07:41:16 PM melissabarrett ok
2020-10-27 07:41:16 PM wmcollins ok
2020-10-27 07:41:19 PM jeanneb ok
2020-10-27 07:41:20 PM amiller20 ok
2020-10-27 07:41:22 PM annettep ready
2020-10-27 07:41:25 PM cchase you go to there world - whereever that may be
2020-10-27 07:41:32 PM melissabarrett ok
2020-10-27 07:41:40 PM judithdevin left the chat room
2020-10-27 07:41:40 PM annettep Yes, no arguments then
2020-10-27 07:41:41 PM cchase if they are at home waiting for the kids to get off that bus
2020-10-27 07:41:48 PM cchase you go along with it
2020-10-27 07:41:53 PM melissabarrett yes
2020-10-27 07:42:01 PM yvettemlopez ok
2020-10-27 07:42:05 PM yvettemlopez left the chat room

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