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2020-12-15 07:40:57 PM rpennino Introducing who you are when you enter the room
2020-12-15 07:41:00 PM lisab70 be treated with the fullestmeasure of consideration
2020-12-15 07:41:08 PM ursulla I hope so kimlear lol
2020-12-15 07:41:20 PM kimlear (lol)
2020-12-15 07:41:23 PM priyab paying attention when they are talking, not ignoring in any way
2020-12-15 07:41:31 PM lisab70 Yes, Kim. Thomas is leading discussion
2020-12-15 07:41:38 PM thomasodougherty We're working with adults. Adults who were capable of making decisions about their daily life prior to admitting to our facilities. Adults who deserve to be treated like adults. Some of you mentioned dignity and respect earlier.
2020-12-15 07:41:41 PM kimlear Ok, thank you!
2020-12-15 07:41:41 PM desiraes give them your undidvided attention
2020-12-15 07:41:46 PM tanyatre i had trouble getting into the chat, sorry
2020-12-15 07:42:08 PM thomasodougherty Thank you, Lisa. Yes; this is the chat "with Celeste" with me instead.
2020-12-15 07:42:10 PM kimlear Me too Tanya, took a bit.
2020-12-15 07:42:17 PM kimlear Hello Thomas
2020-12-15 07:42:19 PM lisab70 YW
2020-12-15 07:42:21 PM kimlear thank you
2020-12-15 07:42:36 PM thomasodougherty Next on the list of Resident Rights is their right to participate in activities.
2020-12-15 07:42:52 PM priyab or not participate, too
2020-12-15 07:42:56 PM kimlear Ok, great, sounds good
2020-12-15 07:42:58 PM lisab70 right to say "No'
2020-12-15 07:43:01 PM kellisheehan or not too
2020-12-15 07:43:03 PM thomasodougherty Excellent point, Priya
2020-12-15 07:43:08 PM desiraes residents have every right to attend the activities of their choice
2020-12-15 07:43:14 PM kimlear Right to just observe rather than participate
2020-12-15 07:43:22 PM kwammack they have the right to be asked and should get a calander of events to be informed
2020-12-15 07:43:29 PM desiraes residents should never be forced to attend activities
2020-12-15 07:43:48 PM barbaraabush yes calanders are very helpful
2020-12-15 07:43:55 PM thomasodougherty More specifically than their right to choose, in this case, it is their right to have activities that a geared toward them.
2020-12-15 07:43:55 PM ursulla The right to leave at anytime
2020-12-15 07:44:10 PM priyab yes, care pplan
2020-12-15 07:44:21 PM kimlear yes, meeting all the requirements, emotional, social, etc.
2020-12-15 07:44:22 PM thomasodougherty You're not going to have a resident who hates BINGO sitting there playing BINGO every other day.
2020-12-15 07:44:22 PM barbaraabush and that where the assessments come in
2020-12-15 07:44:25 PM kwammack they have the right to be involved in the care plan for picking the activities
2020-12-15 07:44:26 PM lisab70 ..to meet their needs
2020-12-15 07:44:27 PM tanyatre calanders are very helpful
2020-12-15 07:44:32 PM ursulla right
2020-12-15 07:44:35 PM kimlear correct
2020-12-15 07:44:41 PM galjan15 true
2020-12-15 07:44:44 PM rpennino you want to constantly change your calendar to reflect the residents interests and needs!
2020-12-15 07:44:44 PM desiraes agreed
2020-12-15 07:45:09 PM lisab70 a daily cadence that meet all needs
2020-12-15 07:45:23 PM wclavin1234 ok
2020-12-15 07:45:27 PM barbaraabush most do check calanders on a daily basis and pick and choose what want to attend
2020-12-15 07:45:27 PM thomasodougherty You're all making good points about using Care Plans, Calendars, Assessment, etc. We figure out how to best address our residents through these tools.
2020-12-15 07:45:38 PM kimlear although they do like routine so we have bingo once a week at the same time on that day...everyone comes on their own
2020-12-15 07:45:55 PM thomasodougherty Next; being free from discrimination.
2020-12-15 07:46:02 PM barbaraabush bingo is their fav
2020-12-15 07:46:12 PM lisab70 no discrimation against color, race...
2020-12-15 07:46:27 PM priyab yes, ...
2020-12-15 07:46:27 PM tanyatre same here barbara, they love bingo
2020-12-15 07:46:27 PM kellisheehan treqted as equals
2020-12-15 07:46:32 PM lisab70 national origin
2020-12-15 07:46:34 PM rpennino Color, race, religious backgrounds
2020-12-15 07:46:36 PM kimlear then we make sure we have all the other categories on the calendar...brain games, coffee hours, sporting activities. We switch up the activity every other week.
2020-12-15 07:46:38 PM galjan15 to be fair
2020-12-15 07:46:43 PM lisab70 disability
2020-12-15 07:46:45 PM desiraes treat them equal
2020-12-15 07:46:59 PM greenmj86 free from any life style choice
2020-12-15 07:47:00 PM priyab even origin or religion
2020-12-15 07:47:07 PM lisab70 yes!
2020-12-15 07:47:21 PM kwammack you do not have the right to turn them away from an activity because you don't think it is for them, they will pick that
2020-12-15 07:47:21 PM thomasodougherty Spot on. This goes back to the civil liberties mentioned earlier. Civil Rights are still to be respected in Nursing Facilities.
2020-12-15 07:47:41 PM thomasodougherty If not, there could be legal ramifications.
2020-12-15 07:47:50 PM priyab yes
2020-12-15 07:48:11 PM barbaraabush any sign of discrimination should be reported to management
2020-12-15 07:48:24 PM thomasodougherty Yes, Barbara!
2020-12-15 07:48:29 PM kwammack I htought the abuse cordinator
2020-12-15 07:48:55 PM rpennino not everyone has an abuse coordinator, we don't at least
2020-12-15 07:49:08 PM thomasodougherty Discrimination can fall into our next Resident Right:The right the be free from abuse and neglect. Both of which MUST be reported to your administrator immediately.
2020-12-15 07:49:10 PM barbaraabush Ive never heard of an abuse cordinator but sounds good
2020-12-15 07:49:13 PM lisab70 free from abuse: verbal, physical, mental..sexual.etc..
2020-12-15 07:49:19 PM ursulla Its the abuse coord. in long term care
2020-12-15 07:49:46 PM lisab70 any abuse on any level should be reported immediately
2020-12-15 07:49:51 PM ryann enter the chat room
2020-12-15 07:49:52 PM kimlear I haven't heard of that either, we do not have one in our facility.
2020-12-15 07:50:06 PM kimlear yes, even if from family members
2020-12-15 07:50:10 PM kimlear unfortunately
2020-12-15 07:50:17 PM desiraes we dont have an abuse coordinator in my facility.
2020-12-15 07:50:17 PM barbaraabush probably in larger facilities
2020-12-15 07:50:20 PM thomasodougherty If you're not sure who at your facility to tell, tell the resident's nurse.
2020-12-15 07:50:29 PM desiraes okie dokie
2020-12-15 07:50:34 PM kimlear or the director if nurse not available
2020-12-15 07:50:34 PM lisab70 yes!
2020-12-15 07:50:37 PM greenmj86 its most likely the director
2020-12-15 07:50:38 PM priyab ok
2020-12-15 07:50:47 PM thomasodougherty What are types of abuse we should look for?
2020-12-15 07:50:50 PM josephoh79 i just tell the administrator
2020-12-15 07:50:53 PM lisab70 we are their voice and advocate...
2020-12-15 07:50:56 PM lisab70 sexual
2020-12-15 07:51:00 PM lisab70 physical
2020-12-15 07:51:00 PM ursulla physcial
2020-12-15 07:51:02 PM lisab70 mental
2020-12-15 07:51:03 PM kimlear all...verbal, physical, emotional, etc.
2020-12-15 07:51:03 PM galjan15 verbal
2020-12-15 07:51:04 PM ryann neglect
2020-12-15 07:51:05 PM greenmj86 mental
2020-12-15 07:51:07 PM wclavin1234 verbal, mental, physical, sexual
2020-12-15 07:51:10 PM rpennino physical abuse, mental abuse. We have had employees tell residents they won't come in and help them anymore
2020-12-15 07:51:13 PM priyab financial too
2020-12-15 07:51:17 PM rpennino hated that it even happened when I reported it
2020-12-15 07:51:23 PM josephoh79 verbal, physical
2020-12-15 07:51:29 PM kwammack neglect
2020-12-15 07:51:33 PM tanyatre verbal, mentsl, and physical
2020-12-15 07:51:35 PM ryann abuse of their personal property
2020-12-15 07:51:35 PM lisab70 isolation
2020-12-15 07:51:37 PM desiraes any type of abuse that you know of should be reported
2020-12-15 07:51:55 PM kwammack restraints physical or chemical
2020-12-15 07:52:03 PM priyab yes, that too
2020-12-15 07:52:12 PM kimlear we had a family get very annoyed at the resident during one of their visits...very short responses to questions that the resident didn't understand
2020-12-15 07:52:18 PM barbaraabush yes rather it is just suspected tell someone
2020-12-15 07:53:02 PM thomasodougherty Great job! I'm going to mention again Priya's answer: "financial". It was a little less mentioned than all the rest, but you're all correct.
2020-12-15 07:53:04 PM kimlear they were upset that she was asking questions that obviously were very old, not current...the family ended up cutting their visit short and the resident was so confused
2020-12-15 07:53:07 PM greenmj86 isolation a hard one in these times
2020-12-15 07:53:25 PM rpennino that breaks my heart kimlear
2020-12-15 07:53:53 PM ryann very good Priya
2020-12-15 07:53:59 PM thomasodougherty Next: be free from restraints.Some of you mentioned this as a form of abuse, and you are not wrong! However, it is important enough to be mentioned on its own.
2020-12-15 07:54:06 PM kimlear yes, yes, broke mine too ;((((. We have also experienced the financial abuse as well...a daughter of one of our residents was taking his money by keeping his credit card and charging it for things for her family.
2020-12-15 07:54:26 PM ursulla I agree
2020-12-15 07:54:28 PM lisab70 chemical or physical...
2020-12-15 07:54:48 PM priyab (y)
2020-12-15 07:55:12 PM barbaraabush irestraints......isnt that against the law
2020-12-15 07:55:25 PM kimlear yes, unless ordered by a doctor i believe
2020-12-15 07:55:34 PM thomasodougherty Restraints are indeed against the law.
2020-12-15 07:55:44 PM ryann all interventions must be tried also
2020-12-15 07:55:51 PM thomasodougherty Unless at an appropriate facility licensed for restraints.
2020-12-15 07:56:01 PM greenmj86 i believe their are ways around restraints in certian situations
2020-12-15 07:56:08 PM kimlear (y)
2020-12-15 07:56:11 PM kwammack if the facility is using anything it should be easy for hte resident to release themselves if they want
2020-12-15 07:56:15 PM priyab ok
2020-12-15 07:56:22 PM thomasodougherty Those facilities are typically hospitals or psych facilities.
2020-12-15 07:56:24 PM barbaraabush Couldnt imagine whitnessing that.
2020-12-15 07:56:27 PM tanyatre okay
2020-12-15 07:56:36 PM wclavin1234 ok
2020-12-15 07:56:41 PM kimlear using medicine as a restraint as well is not legal.
2020-12-15 07:57:30 PM thomasodougherty Moving along.Right to make complaints.
2020-12-15 07:57:32 PM lisab70 Common restraint in last community: Pushing a table up to a resident in a chair ..up against the wall so resident would wander...
2020-12-15 07:57:33 PM kwammack the restraints are for an example a belt wrapped around the person wiht a snap release in the front of the person
2020-12-15 07:57:36 PM barbaraabush I think using drugs as a restraint is used more then we know.
2020-12-15 07:57:47 PM lisab70 yes! Barbara
2020-12-15 07:57:48 PM thomasodougherty Are you all familiar with your grievance program?
2020-12-15 07:57:52 PM wclavin1234 resident council?
2020-12-15 07:57:55 PM ryann yes I am
2020-12-15 07:58:04 PM lisab70 not sure?
2020-12-15 07:58:07 PM josephoh79 no
2020-12-15 07:58:07 PM ursulla I am Thomas
2020-12-15 07:58:09 PM kwammack a little
2020-12-15 07:58:10 PM kimlear no
2020-12-15 07:58:11 PM rpennino I don't believe so
2020-12-15 07:58:11 PM priyab yes, to some extent
2020-12-15 07:58:16 PM tanyatre not sure
2020-12-15 07:58:18 PM rpennino If i do I know it as another name!
2020-12-15 07:58:24 PM thomasodougherty Ursulla, will you tell us about it?
2020-12-15 07:58:25 PM greenmj86 not sure
2020-12-15 07:58:30 PM desiraes grievance program is when a resident makes a complaint about missing or broken items.
2020-12-15 07:58:32 PM barbaraabush I worked at a assisted living and they did not have one.
2020-12-15 07:58:33 PM ursulla We use concern forms
2020-12-15 07:58:40 PM desiraes so you fill out a grievance form
2020-12-15 07:58:57 PM desiraes and sign it once the issue has been solved
2020-12-15 07:59:00 PM kwammack a person can fill out a grievance if they do not want to move to another room
2020-12-15 07:59:08 PM ursulla If a resident has a complaint we fill out a concern form and give it to the admin
2020-12-15 07:59:09 PM barbaraabush the nursing supervisor is who they would go to if they had a complaint
2020-12-15 07:59:17 PM rpennino what would a grievance be that you would fill one of these forms out?
2020-12-15 07:59:34 PM ryann We have a slightly different process
2020-12-15 07:59:37 PM kwammack they fill out a reimbursment form wiht a copy of proof they had it and the facility will replace
2020-12-15 07:59:37 PM barbaraabush missing items
2020-12-15 07:59:43 PM ursulla the admin address it with the appropriate discipline and they follow up with the resident
2020-12-15 07:59:48 PM rpennino so it is just missing items?
2020-12-15 07:59:50 PM thomasodougherty A grievance/concern/what-have-you can be literally anything the Resident feels the need to express a grievance over.
2020-12-15 08:00:00 PM rpennino gotcha
2020-12-15 08:00:01 PM thomasodougherty Most often, yes, it is missing items.
2020-12-15 08:00:11 PM lisab70 ahhhh... gotcha
2020-12-15 08:00:12 PM ursulla the concern form is then signed once resolved and returned to the damin
2020-12-15 08:00:12 PM kimlear (y)
2020-12-15 08:00:12 PM barbaraabush kwammack I like that
2020-12-15 08:00:17 PM priyab got it
2020-12-15 08:00:22 PM tanyatre oh okay
2020-12-15 08:00:34 PM ursulla admin
2020-12-15 08:00:34 PM kwammack sometimes it is about their money
2020-12-15 08:00:53 PM thomasodougherty You should all have access, and more importantly Residents should have access, to concern forms.
2020-12-15 08:01:01 PM kimlear ok
2020-12-15 08:01:04 PM desiraes ok
2020-12-15 08:01:07 PM priyab ok
2020-12-15 08:01:11 PM lisab70 <--- need to check on this
2020-12-15 08:01:11 PM kimlear need to get more information on that
2020-12-15 08:01:21 PM lisab70 ha! Kim!
2020-12-15 08:01:22 PM ursulla yes we have them placed in common area in the facility
2020-12-15 08:01:29 PM kimlear hmmmmmm
2020-12-15 08:01:35 PM ryann We fill out the concern form and try to address the situation to the guest's liking. We then turn it into the admin wheather or not we solved it wel fill out the back if solved.
2020-12-15 08:01:37 PM kimlear that sounds like a good location
2020-12-15 08:01:58 PM rpennino that's a good idea
2020-12-15 08:02:04 PM thomasodougherty They are filled out. Turned into your Grievance Coordinator who disseminates them to appropriate parties. Those parties meet with the Resident to address the concern. Hopefully resolve the concern, sign, and return the form to the grievance coordinator.
2020-12-15 08:02:05 PM ryann The admin then moves forward to solve it or resolves it. The resident has to sign off also
2020-12-15 08:02:41 PM thomasodougherty An exception here is: abuse is not reported on a concern form. That goes directly to your administrator.
2020-12-15 08:02:42 PM kimlear grievance coordinator?
2020-12-15 08:02:45 PM ursulla Thats what I was tring to say. I just type/peck slow
2020-12-15 08:03:08 PM priyab isn't this ( greivence) also a major part of resident Council?
2020-12-15 08:03:16 PM thomasodougherty Grievance Coordinator = whoever is responsible for making sure the forms are completed.
2020-12-15 08:03:28 PM thomasodougherty Yes it is, Priya! We'll get there.
2020-12-15 08:03:50 PM ursulla I am the grievance coord for resident council
2020-12-15 08:03:53 PM thomasodougherty Next! The right to get proper Medical Care.
2020-12-15 08:04:16 PM priyab yes
2020-12-15 08:04:20 PM ursulla All residentd are entitle to needed care services
2020-12-15 08:04:26 PM ursulla residents
2020-12-15 08:04:33 PM thomasodougherty This one is lenghty... but basically, residents have the right to be informed about and have a voice in the care they receive.
2020-12-15 08:05:08 PM rpennino I do have a quick question on the grievance forms. I work at an AL with a lot of memory care level residents, sometimes their grievances are things they don't necessarily remember doing-such as they swear they didn't receive meals when I've seen them eating the entire plate. How would I go about handling those forms without upsetting the residents?
2020-12-15 08:05:10 PM kimlear yes, yes, so very important to help them feel a bit of independence
2020-12-15 08:05:10 PM kwammack for example a shower, bath, spunge bath
2020-12-15 08:05:50 PM priyab entitled to necessary Medical care and entitled to all medical information related to them
2020-12-15 08:05:52 PM ryann Fill it out for them. Then state you witnessed them eating
2020-12-15 08:05:52 PM thomasodougherty You can still fill it out. Then check with the nurse to make sure that their meal was documented.
2020-12-15 08:06:07 PM rpennino Thank you guys!
2020-12-15 08:06:24 PM thomasodougherty You'll want a paper trail showing that you took it seriously and followed up on the matter. If you don't and an investigation takes place, your facility could be in trouble.
2020-12-15 08:06:38 PM desiraes very true
2020-12-15 08:06:49 PM rpennino Very true, I'll get those grievance forms out this week!
2020-12-15 08:06:52 PM ryann yes everything in writing
2020-12-15 08:06:52 PM priyab hmmm, got it
2020-12-15 08:06:52 PM lisab70 Absolutely!
2020-12-15 08:07:07 PM galjan15 agreed
2020-12-15 08:07:08 PM thomasodougherty Closely associated with medical care is, notifying representatives.
2020-12-15 08:07:11 PM kimlear we've not discussed this so will ask in our next staff meeting
2020-12-15 08:07:17 PM kwammack when family brings a meal, I understand that does not count towards eating a meal. They can not document 25% etc,
2020-12-15 08:07:48 PM thomasodougherty An appointee is included in the topics under right to medical care.
2020-12-15 08:08:04 PM lisab70 (y)
2020-12-15 08:08:15 PM thomasodougherty Also associated with that is the right to be informed about services and fees.
2020-12-15 08:08:33 PM thomasodougherty Questions on those 3?
2020-12-15 08:08:39 PM greenmj86 no
2020-12-15 08:08:42 PM priyab no
2020-12-15 08:08:42 PM lisab70 No!
2020-12-15 08:08:42 PM desiraes none here
2020-12-15 08:08:44 PM barbaraabush no
2020-12-15 08:08:45 PM thomasodougherty Super!
2020-12-15 08:08:48 PM josephoh79 no
2020-12-15 08:08:53 PM ursulla The care plan should also reflect the residents cognition ope
2020-12-15 08:08:55 PM kwammack no
2020-12-15 08:08:56 PM rpennino nope!
2020-12-15 08:08:57 PM thomasodougherty Next.. the right to manage their money.
2020-12-15 08:09:13 PM priyab yes
2020-12-15 08:09:45 PM lisab70 ...right to manage their money..
2020-12-15 08:09:47 PM barbaraabush Do they have the right? Because I dont see that happening.
2020-12-15 08:09:57 PM thomasodougherty All facilities should have a "Bank" that can hold funds for residents. Those funds must be reasonably made available to the residents.
2020-12-15 08:10:10 PM desiraes agree
2020-12-15 08:10:15 PM thomasodougherty This also ties into preventing financial abuse.
2020-12-15 08:10:16 PM greenmj86 resident trust
2020-12-15 08:10:16 PM ryann We do!
2020-12-15 08:10:17 PM ursulla Thats our bussiness office
2020-12-15 08:10:21 PM rpennino Oh that is something I've fought over at my facility
2020-12-15 08:10:23 PM priyab true
2020-12-15 08:10:33 PM thomasodougherty Yes, it is usually in the Business Office.
2020-12-15 08:10:36 PM kimlear oh
2020-12-15 08:10:40 PM galjan15 yes with our social worker
2020-12-15 08:10:40 PM desiraes our financial office takes care of all finances
2020-12-15 08:10:48 PM lisab70 Thank God! not activities
2020-12-15 08:10:57 PM ryann accounts receivable
2020-12-15 08:10:57 PM josephoh79 lol
2020-12-15 08:11:10 PM greenmj86 this goes into shopping for the residents
2020-12-15 08:11:16 PM kimlear again, need to ask about this...i'm fairly new
2020-12-15 08:11:16 PM thomasodougherty Next is the right for proper privacy, property, and living arrangements.
2020-12-15 08:11:25 PM ryann shopping ordering them lunch
2020-12-15 08:11:36 PM priyab ok
2020-12-15 08:11:49 PM ursulla closing the curtain during care is big
2020-12-15 08:11:52 PM lisab70 privacy- especially during treatment
2020-12-15 08:11:53 PM kwammack pull the curtain back when changing them
2020-12-15 08:12:23 PM kimlear keeping the door closed when attending to them
2020-12-15 08:12:27 PM desiraes always make sure the curtain is closed so the resident has privacy
2020-12-15 08:12:29 PM barbaraabush I seen them so upset because they no longer have access to credit cards, bank accounts and only get money if someone in their family okays it.
2020-12-15 08:12:32 PM thomasodougherty This involves phone calls, private places to have visits, closing curtains and blinds, being notified of room changes, etc.
2020-12-15 08:12:36 PM lisab70 privacy: finacial..and medical affairs
2020-12-15 08:12:40 PM kwammack repairs need to be done in a timely manner
2020-12-15 08:12:44 PM desiraes agree
2020-12-15 08:12:45 PM priyab got it
2020-12-15 08:12:46 PM ryann yes the living arrangements!
2020-12-15 08:12:49 PM ursulla a home like enviorment
2020-12-15 08:13:19 PM rpennino so true ursulla, and it is their home now!
2020-12-15 08:13:27 PM thomasodougherty It shouldn't be "ok'd" by the facility Barbara. However, there should be a window of time when money is made available. A request can't be made for a withdrawal at midnight.
2020-12-15 08:13:29 PM ursulla right
2020-12-15 08:13:42 PM kwammack I thought they have the right to decline a room change. before covid now it is waived and they have to move if necessary
2020-12-15 08:13:47 PM barbaraabush interesting
2020-12-15 08:13:48 PM thomasodougherty They do!
2020-12-15 08:14:20 PM thomasodougherty A facility cannot move anyone for the convenience of the facility.
2020-12-15 08:14:22 PM kwammack ok thank you
2020-12-15 08:14:30 PM thomasodougherty However!
2020-12-15 08:14:32 PM desiraes very true
2020-12-15 08:14:34 PM galjan15 true
2020-12-15 08:14:35 PM thomasodougherty There are exceptions.
2020-12-15 08:14:45 PM kwammack My understanding the pandemic has changed that.
2020-12-15 08:14:47 PM desiraes it has to be the resident righ to move into a different room
2020-12-15 08:14:50 PM kwammack or am I wrong
2020-12-15 08:15:03 PM priyab what exceptions?
2020-12-15 08:15:12 PM thomasodougherty If it is for the residents safety the facility can overrule their decline.
2020-12-15 08:15:13 PM ryann safety
2020-12-15 08:15:20 PM thomasodougherty Yes, Ryan!
2020-12-15 08:15:22 PM priyab oh ok
2020-12-15 08:15:28 PM lisab70 makes sense!
2020-12-15 08:15:51 PM thomasodougherty Next, the right to spend time with visitors.We probably don't need to go into that one deeply.
2020-12-15 08:15:54 PM galjan15 safety before thier rights
2020-12-15 08:16:18 PM ryann I can't wait for it to be safe for visitors!!!
2020-12-15 08:16:23 PM rpennino unfortunately a right that has been infringed on by COVID
2020-12-15 08:16:39 PM priyab nope.... follow visiting hours
2020-12-15 08:16:40 PM barbaraabush yes very sad
2020-12-15 08:16:42 PM thomasodougherty The right to Social Servies:CounselingConflict ResolutionContacting Legal supportDischarge Planning
2020-12-15 08:17:12 PM priyab hmmm
2020-12-15 08:17:17 PM kwammack do they get involved iwht inservices?
2020-12-15 08:17:24 PM thomasodougherty We'll talk about how this isn't exactly written in stone.
2020-12-15 08:17:41 PM kimlear restrictions on visitation to be debated on whether or not that is an infringement on their rights.
2020-12-15 08:17:45 PM thomasodougherty They do, but that isn't listed under our talk on rights.
2020-12-15 08:18:02 PM kwammack ok
2020-12-15 08:18:19 PM thomasodougherty Next, the right to leave the facility.
2020-12-15 08:18:21 PM barbaraabush well most want to be dischared and think they are going to be
2020-12-15 08:18:31 PM thomasodougherty This inculdes visits or dicharges.
2020-12-15 08:19:03 PM priyab or even going to another facility
2020-12-15 08:19:06 PM thomasodougherty Even now, we cannot stop anyone from leaving the facility if they want to. There may need to be some restricitions upon their return, but if someone wants to leave, it is their right.
2020-12-15 08:19:36 PM thomasodougherty Tying in with that, protection from unfair transfer or discharge.
2020-12-15 08:19:41 PM kimlear Oh, wow, even assisted residents?
2020-12-15 08:19:42 PM barbaraabush really? not their family?
2020-12-15 08:19:59 PM galjan15 yes very true we can not hold them against thier right
2020-12-15 08:20:00 PM kimlear we allow our indepedent to leave but assisted is restricted unless doctor's appointment
2020-12-15 08:20:04 PM thomasodougherty Our facilities are not a prison.
2020-12-15 08:20:24 PM lisab70 what about safety cocerns?
2020-12-15 08:20:26 PM ryann No they are not
2020-12-15 08:20:26 PM kimlear i understand, they shouldn't be prisons, however, COVID has completely wrecked that
2020-12-15 08:20:29 PM thomasodougherty Their can be deterents implemented and redirection should be used.
2020-12-15 08:20:37 PM thomasodougherty However, if someone wants to leave, they are entitled.