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2016-11-08 07:46:21 PM cynthiasickler oh yeah i feel there are but i have seen so many people who are there for their paychecks and i think about how hard my department works and what are pay checks are but bottom line ive done this for 20 years, dont make a lot of money but i come home feeling like i made at least one person happy at thae end of that day
2016-11-08 07:46:22 PM aturner1026 definitely, kathy
2016-11-08 07:46:24 PM rosesyellow713 I will
2016-11-08 07:46:24 PM kathybrosrt nice ..Thx
2016-11-08 07:46:28 PM angelamscott amen. I will
2016-11-08 07:46:33 PM mcurtis512 lol
2016-11-08 07:46:36 PM auazuibke0114 We have centinaries
2016-11-08 07:46:39 PM bhenderson8207 our therapy department is great at working with us for residents who like to go to activities. Communication is key to making things work!
2016-11-08 07:46:49 PM lisah Good Night!
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2016-11-08 07:46:51 PM mcurtis512 communication is key
2016-11-08 07:46:57 PM kathyhughes Yes it is
2016-11-08 07:46:58 PM heidihartsock i ask for them to work around activiities all the time and they refuse
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2016-11-08 07:47:12 PM stacyg84 My staff is very helpful, i am so greatful for them and my Director
2016-11-08 07:47:15 PM pamgoodwin Funny, communication is one of my studies this week...
2016-11-08 07:47:20 PM harebare heidi thats sad
2016-11-08 07:47:30 PM kathybrosrt we were told RA, OT, and PT come first..they have to have it for their medicaide to pay. So I have had them pull residents out of an activity
2016-11-08 07:47:35 PM sandyping We also enjoy doing a dear Abbey game on the never 2 late coputer program
2016-11-08 07:47:36 PM kathyhughes That is why I covered the FTags for activities during orientation
2016-11-08 07:47:45 PM bhenderson8207 ultimately is comes down to what the residents want. if they want to go to an activity and do therapy after they should be able to go
2016-11-08 07:47:51 PM latishac Trust in the lord with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding in all your ways acknowledge him and he shall direct your path in Jesus name Amen.
2016-11-08 07:47:58 PM mcurtis512 true
2016-11-08 07:48:01 PM stacyg84 latishac - amen
2016-11-08 07:48:04 PM heidihartsock i even ask in front of my administrator and everybody in morning meeting and i still have a hard time getting them to cooperate with us
2016-11-08 07:48:09 PM angelamscott The sad thing is the ones who are not communicating are the ones who should and ones who are need to just liste
2016-11-08 07:48:15 PM angelamscott listen
2016-11-08 07:48:23 PM pamgoodwin Yep, they take my residents all the time...
2016-11-08 07:48:25 PM stacyg84 Sounds like the Admin needs to tell them to step up and help
2016-11-08 07:48:42 PM kathyhughes You should cover them when new people come in so that they know that they are also part of our regulations
2016-11-08 07:48:51 PM cynthiasickler absolutely. a always include in my assessment how therapy will work around the residents interests. if they know they want the activity, they will work around their schedules
2016-11-08 07:48:52 PM heidihartsock good idea.
2016-11-08 07:48:56 PM mcurtis512 these are great ideas in this chat tonight
2016-11-08 07:49:00 PM latishac Yes I agree.
2016-11-08 07:49:13 PM kerilforgues agreed
2016-11-08 07:49:14 PM sandyping I have the same problem, because we have a short stay unit. I try to offer more al a cart activities
2016-11-08 07:49:15 PM jbigham I've been blessed with our therapists. they will bring residents to an activity and use it in their therapy. Blessed for sure.
2016-11-08 07:49:15 PM stacyg84 I got alot of great ideas tonight ! I am so happy to be here and learn new things
2016-11-08 07:49:16 PM kathyhughes I covered a couple of our regulations during Dept Head meeting
2016-11-08 07:49:16 PM bhenderson8207 I would suggest having a conversation with the therapy department and the administrator to see if you can come to some agreement or arrangment.
2016-11-08 07:49:17 PM angelamscott Learnning the regulations has helped me a lot
2016-11-08 07:49:26 PM rosesyellow713 yes there are
2016-11-08 07:49:34 PM kathybrosrt I give bingo chips to everyone that goes to RA exercise. Otherwise they would never go..we try to make it fun for them though
2016-11-08 07:49:43 PM latishac Yes I enjoy talking and getting my express out there.
2016-11-08 07:49:46 PM heidihartsock i always tell the residents that if there is something you want to come to, the therapists are supposed to work around it. but either the residents aren't saying anything or the therapists just don't care.
2016-11-08 07:49:52 PM sandyping Yes, regulations are important to know
2016-11-08 07:50:13 PM kathyhughes And it's important to ask the resident what they want to do
2016-11-08 07:50:19 PM heidihartsock right
2016-11-08 07:50:21 PM mcurtis512 yes it is
2016-11-08 07:50:24 PM bhenderson8207 a lot of activities can be helpful and considered therapy so you could use that to your advantage. and having a happy resident because they were able to do an activity may provide for a better therapy session
2016-11-08 07:50:25 PM angelamscott yes
2016-11-08 07:50:27 PM rosesyellow713 Yes it is
2016-11-08 07:50:28 PM cynthiasickler some therapists dont really always ask either. ive heard some say, lets head down to therapy now. not always giving a vhoice
2016-11-08 07:50:28 PM stacyg84 I hope things start to look up for you Heidi - i will pray that they do
2016-11-08 07:50:30 PM sandyping I am in the process of setting up a new memory care unit any tips
2016-11-08 07:50:32 PM kathyhughes So if therapy comes in they should ask first
2016-11-08 07:50:41 PM heidihartsock happy residents = happy families and happy staff
2016-11-08 07:50:43 PM kathybrosrt But Heid ours are very busy with acute and ltc. So they get to come when ever they get the time to do it
2016-11-08 07:50:46 PM kerilforgues I give a copy of the calendar to the therapy department so they know and they check in to see who will most likely be in what activity so THEY can plan THEIR schedules accordingly
2016-11-08 07:50:48 PM stacyg84 Do a theme sandy!!
2016-11-08 07:50:54 PM pamgoodwin I wish Kathy--they just grab and go
2016-11-08 07:51:07 PM kathybrosrt ours does to
2016-11-08 07:51:12 PM angelamscott I ask therapist and home health not to come at certain times
2016-11-08 07:51:18 PM cynthiasickler i think i"ll give our therapy department a calendar, good idea
2016-11-08 07:51:18 PM harebare i have therapy take residents to. but my residents go cause they want to get better and go home we have rehab to go home to
2016-11-08 07:51:19 PM heidihartsock yeah our therapy director gets a calendar as well as all the other department heads but she doesnt care.
2016-11-08 07:51:24 PM sandyping WE are closing one of our wings and putting in a secure unit
2016-11-08 07:51:28 PM dorisb MY BIGGEST STRUGGLE HAS BEEN WITH OUR HAIRDRESSER LATELY. SHE ALWAYS USED TO COME ON WEDNESDAY MORNING. NOW SHE HAS MORE PEOPLE TO DO, SO SHE COMES TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. TUESDAYS HAVE BEEN CHURCH DAYS AT OUR FACILITY FOREVER. I ASKED HER TO WORK AROUND THE HALF HOUR THAT CHURCH TAKES, BUT BOY IS IT A STRUGGLE TO GET HER TO DO IT. BUT THEY ALL HAVE A FIT IF SHE DOESN'T DO THEIR HAIR, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.
2016-11-08 07:51:54 PM kathyhughes you know they sign the care plan stating that they will follow it so if a resident likes something they have signed off that the resident can go to that program
2016-11-08 07:52:03 PM stacyg84 I did diverson doors in my Community so that my Residents didnt have to see a door and know they could not open it
2016-11-08 07:52:06 PM kathybrosrt we just put white boards in all the residents rooms. We write down what activity the resident is interested in going to for the day. sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt
2016-11-08 07:52:10 PM angelamscott sandyping don't let no one call it back there
2016-11-08 07:52:16 PM mcurtis512 ok thats good idea
2016-11-08 07:52:29 PM cynthiasickler as of that hairdresser that is horrible, i would love to hear some suggestions on how to handle that one
2016-11-08 07:52:40 PM latishac I'm trying to make a fun game for residence after lunch time and it's hard for me to gey some to do activites because they love to watch movies and rest.
2016-11-08 07:52:41 PM kathyhughes Tell her that you will bring the residents from Church to her
2016-11-08 07:52:45 PM heidihartsock i like the white board idea but we have 100 beds and it seems like it would take a while
2016-11-08 07:52:45 PM kathyhughes when they are done
2016-11-08 07:52:53 PM sandyping Our therapy dept. does not want to post our calendar becuase they don't want to lose their patients
2016-11-08 07:52:56 PM pamgoodwin Wow, white boards in every residents room would put me in the poor house. But for a small facility--that would help.
2016-11-08 07:52:58 PM mcurtis512 that what we do
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2016-11-08 07:53:17 PM kathybrosrt it can be a small white board..they arent that much and I did a fundraiser to get them
2016-11-08 07:53:32 PM sandyping We have a white board in the family room
2016-11-08 07:53:33 PM angelamscott dollar tree have them
2016-11-08 07:53:35 PM kathyhughes You have to explain the regulations to them
2016-11-08 07:53:47 PM stacyg84 Walmart has them around school time for lockers - may have some on clearance - that is where we got ours
2016-11-08 07:54:01 PM mcurtis512 they still have them
2016-11-08 07:54:07 PM kathyhughes Show them that they would get a deficiency if residents cannot attend activities that they are interested in
2016-11-08 07:54:09 PM pamgoodwin I'll check around--but I have a 244 bed facility
2016-11-08 07:54:17 PM heidihartsock isn't it time consuming though to do thtfor everybody every day
2016-11-08 07:54:32 PM stacyg84 oh wow pam ! We only have 18 so that is a huge difference
2016-11-08 07:54:33 PM kathyhughes Yes it is Heidi
2016-11-08 07:54:34 PM heidihartsock i barely have enough time to do everything else
2016-11-08 07:54:45 PM kathybrosrt Kathy they just tell me that they have to do it or the insurance doesnt pay. The one time I challanged them I got called in the office. he told me they come first because thats how the hospital gets paid
2016-11-08 07:54:55 PM mcurtis512 its OKAY
2016-11-08 07:54:59 PM angelamscott Utilize your staff. especially the overnight staff
2016-11-08 07:55:06 PM cynthiasickler i get that therapy has a certain amount of time to do their stuff. it just seems like there arent enough hours in the day for everyone to do their job
2016-11-08 07:55:08 PM bhenderson8207 I am headed off tonight! good luck to all the new/newer students! the weeks will fly by! again dont overthink the assignments! This is my final chat, it has been great!
2016-11-08 07:55:23 PM megand Kathy Hughes I just sent you an email of a couple of the animals that come to visit our facility. I couldn't figure out how to send in this chat. So you can send it to the other is this discussion.
2016-11-08 07:55:23 PM angelalchaffee i work wth my therapist. give them a calendar for the month of activities and a begin of week notice for any outings and who is going so they can get those residents in that are going and wont miss out.
2016-11-08 07:55:26 PM sandyping I also heard the same, therapy is important so we try our best to work together
2016-11-08 07:55:28 PM dorisb WE DO TAKE ALL THE RESIDENTS TO HER. WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM OVER TO THE ASSISTED LIVING. THE CNAS RUN LIKE CHICKENS ON HAIR DAY DRAGGING PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH. I DON'T KNOW WHY SHE CAN'T DO IT ANOTHER TIME OTHER THAN THAT HALF HOUR THAT CHURCH LASTS. I'VE SPOKEN TO HER SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT IT, AS THEIR MINISTERS USUALLY ONLY COME THAT ONE DAY A MONTH.
2016-11-08 07:55:29 PM kathyhughes Then the extreme would be to change the activities calendar
2016-11-08 07:55:29 PM stacyg84 thank you bhenderson for giving us encouragment !
2016-11-08 07:55:35 PM kathybrosrt not time consuming..most residents only want to come to 2 or 3 activities a day..and Cna's write on the boards to
2016-11-08 07:55:39 PM kathyhughes ok
2016-11-08 07:55:41 PM cynthiasickler i wish our night staff would do more but since the don and administrator are gone, they dont stresss out too much
2016-11-08 07:55:45 PM kathybrosrt right Kathy
2016-11-08 07:55:50 PM mcurtis512 WE DO ANNCOMENTS
2016-11-08 07:55:58 PM mcurtis512 ANNOUNMENTS
2016-11-08 07:56:03 PM auazuibke0114 Yes it can be time consuming
2016-11-08 07:56:13 PM kathybrosrt I do pretty good with it. and they write their times on the board to for each resident. I work around that
2016-11-08 07:56:24 PM cynthiasickler we used to do announcements but i cant remmber why we cant anymore. now its only for emergency
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2016-11-08 07:56:35 PM mfrancoi3 i work in the dementia departement and i do whatever i want with residents as long as they are safe
2016-11-08 07:56:36 PM kathyhughes Anything else that I can help with tonight??????
2016-11-08 07:56:41 PM auazuibke0114 We too
2016-11-08 07:56:44 PM cynthiasickler i think too many people were being paged for personal calls
2016-11-08 07:56:57 PM heidihartsock i'm good , thanks kathy
2016-11-08 07:56:58 PM angelamscott i'm good. Good night all
2016-11-08 07:56:58 PM kathybrosrt lol we do announcements , not so much for the residents but to get the cna;s in gear
2016-11-08 07:57:02 PM megand I have to go tuck my kids into bed, it was nicce chatting with you all!
2016-11-08 07:57:02 PM latishac We do stand up every day.
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2016-11-08 07:57:02 PM jenniferezy great chat tonight eveyone I really enjoy it thanks for all the great ideas good night all
2016-11-08 07:57:02 PM stacyg84 Me too francoi - i have the cna's help when there is enough on shift
2016-11-08 07:57:07 PM mcurtis512 no
2016-11-08 07:57:07 PM mfrancoi3 im like my own boss during the weekend
2016-11-08 07:57:07 PM pamgoodwin Nope, not for me..I'm off to read--read--read.. Good night Kathy
2016-11-08 07:57:13 PM kathybrosrt oh wow the hour is over already??
2016-11-08 07:57:13 PM cynthiasickler i think you did a great job, youve been a huge help to me so far through this program. i thank you
2016-11-08 07:57:16 PM sandyping Thanks Kathy,
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2016-11-08 07:57:20 PM rosesyellow713 No I am good
2016-11-08 07:57:20 PM dorisb WE DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER SYSTEM AT ALL ANY MORE. THE BOSS SAYS IT'S NOT HOME LIKE.
2016-11-08 07:57:28 PM kathybrosrt Thanks Kathy and gnight
2016-11-08 07:57:30 PM auazuibke0114 Please kathy, do we use ourselves as identifiers for MDS and assessments?
2016-11-08 07:57:34 PM stacyg84 Thank you Kathy ! Great chat tonight ! Lots of great ideas !
2016-11-08 07:57:34 PM kathyhughes Have a good week all...yep we have almost been here an hour
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2016-11-08 07:57:42 PM kathyhughes Yes
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2016-11-08 07:57:49 PM angelalchaffee no thank you and good night
2016-11-08 07:57:49 PM cynthiasickler good night all and god bless america and its future!
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2016-11-08 07:57:54 PM harebare i really enjoyed chat for the first time have a great night everyone and see you soon
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2016-11-08 07:58:05 PM stacyg84 Good night All !
2016-11-08 07:58:08 PM mcurtis512 night
2016-11-08 07:58:09 PM kathyhughes Have a great week all!
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2016-11-08 07:58:14 PM rosesyellow713 Good night everyone tomomorow is a new day
2016-11-08 07:58:15 PM stacyg84 You too Kathy !
2016-11-08 07:58:16 PM kathybrosrt hahah I used me on the assessment and I saved it so when I move in , in 10 yrs they will already know what I like
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2016-11-08 07:58:18 PM dorisb THANKS EVERYONE! HAVE A GOOD NIGHT!
2016-11-08 07:58:19 PM auazuibke0114 Okay Thanks Kathy and goodnight
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2016-11-08 07:58:38 PM latishac I love the question that I'm getting.
2016-11-08 07:58:40 PM kathyhughes I have my assessment on my Pinterest Board!
2016-11-08 07:58:42 PM mfrancoi3 stacy instead than the cnas helping me i am the one helping them with feeding and safety
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2016-11-08 07:58:49 PM auazuibke0114 Thanks for the awesome ideas. Goodnight all
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2016-11-08 07:59:08 PM mfrancoi3 all the cna s have to do when i am there is bath them n make sure they are clean
2016-11-08 07:59:26 PM kathyhughes Good Night all
2016-11-08 07:59:28 PM auazuibke0114 that's bad Mfranci3
2016-11-08 07:59:42 PM auazuibke0114 Goodnight and thank Kathy
2016-11-08 07:59:47 PM latishac Yes that's what my coworkers do.
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2016-11-08 08:00:00 PM mfrancoi3 good night everyone that was nice chatting live.
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2016-11-08 08:00:26 PM latishac Good Night everybody have a bless night.
2016-11-08 08:00:49 PM latishac Yes this was a nice chatting live.
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2016-11-09 07:05:35 PM tvs320 Is there a chat tonight on swing beds?
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2016-11-10 04:15:18 PM denisei hello,
2016-11-10 04:16:04 PM denisei kathy is there a website connected with mepap that have job listing for activity directors
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2016-11-10 06:31:24 PM wilda7 what are we going to talk about tonight ?
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2016-11-10 06:38:50 PM tammymb is there a MEPAP ll chat tonight?
2016-11-10 06:39:57 PM wilda7 well I thought so
2016-11-10 06:41:26 PM wilda7 but we are early (:o)
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2016-11-10 06:45:08 PM dianed72 Hello everyone. Glad I'm not the only early bird...lol
2016-11-10 06:45:45 PM wilda7 so how is everones week going so far ?
2016-11-10 06:45:56 PM dianed72 LONG
2016-11-10 06:46:11 PM wilda7 I hear ya
2016-11-10 06:46:15 PM tammymb very busy!
2016-11-10 06:47:27 PM tammymb planning Thanksgiving events!
2016-11-10 06:48:25 PM wilda7 Oh yes and also working on the Dec. calendaor and trying to keep up on everything else
2016-11-10 06:48:56 PM dianed72 I am not looking forward to that one. I'm working on December Calendar also
2016-11-10 06:49:09 PM tammymb Same here
2016-11-10 06:49:29 PM wilda7 very very busy time of the year
2016-11-10 06:50:21 PM tammymb we have several trees to put up at my workplace
2016-11-10 06:50:22 PM wilda7 but every month is busy for us :D
2016-11-10 06:50:37 PM wilda7 so do we
2016-11-10 06:50:43 PM dianed72 Oh ya, it never ends
2016-11-10 06:51:09 PM tammymb I work for a adult daycare center
2016-11-10 06:51:48 PM dianed72 LTC, Skilled, and Memory care Facility for me.
2016-11-10 06:52:13 PM wilda7 long tearm 60 bed
2016-11-10 06:52:43 PM dianed72 170 beds
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2016-11-10 06:53:31 PM layvonne2016 Hello everyone
2016-11-10 06:53:35 PM dianed72 hi
2016-11-10 06:53:49 PM wilda7 wow 170 how do you keep up do you have a helper ?
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2016-11-10 06:54:12 PM dianed72 I am one of 3 total assistants.
2016-11-10 06:54:31 PM kathyhughes Hello All
2016-11-10 06:54:37 PM dianed72 Hi Kathy
2016-11-10 06:54:49 PM wilda7 hello Kathy
2016-11-10 06:54:54 PM layvonne2016 Hi Kathy
2016-11-10 06:55:11 PM tammymb hello Kathy!
2016-11-10 06:55:50 PM kathyhughes How are you doing?
2016-11-10 06:56:17 PM dianed72 Brain fry LOL
2016-11-10 06:56:20 PM tammymb Doing fine!
2016-11-10 06:56:22 PM wilda7 we have been talking of how busy we have all been
2016-11-10 06:56:25 PM layvonne2016 Im doing fine.
2016-11-10 06:56:38 PM tammymb Christmas planning!
2016-11-10 06:56:40 PM kathyhughes i am sure
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2016-11-10 06:57:48 PM dianed72 Working on Calendars and trying to get new activities in it.
2016-11-10 06:57:59 PM kathyhughes Hope that you make it stress free
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2016-11-10 06:58:15 PM reneegu Hello Everyone
2016-11-10 06:58:31 PM kateordway hi everyone
2016-11-10 06:58:36 PM dianed72 Hi
2016-11-10 06:58:39 PM kathyhughes Hello
2016-11-10 06:58:56 PM wilda7 I'm excited to see how my "gobble till you wobble" turns out
2016-11-10 06:59:09 PM kathyhughes what is that
2016-11-10 06:59:11 PM dianed72 I am working on trying to get more people involved and intergrating their likes into some activities.
2016-11-10 06:59:15 PM tammymb what is that?
2016-11-10 06:59:19 PM elimazeg enter the chat room
2016-11-10 06:59:25 PM dianed72 What is that?
2016-11-10 06:59:25 PM kateordway what is that?
2016-11-10 06:59:27 PM loybrooklyn enter the chat room
2016-11-10 06:59:36 PM kelly326 enter the chat room
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2016-11-10 07:00:08 PM chelcia Hello everybody.
2016-11-10 07:00:10 PM layvonne2016 whatbis that?
2016-11-10 07:00:14 PM elimazeg hello
2016-11-10 07:00:15 PM kathyhughes Hello
2016-11-10 07:00:20 PM priscillasalinas enter the chat room
2016-11-10 07:00:32 PM tammymb Hello to everyone!
2016-11-10 07:00:43 PM loybrooklyn Hello good eveing everyone
2016-11-10 07:00:51 PM reneegu hello
2016-11-10 07:00:53 PM kelly326 Hello
2016-11-10 07:01:02 PM priscillasalinas Good evening:D
2016-11-10 07:01:07 PM dianed72 Hey all
2016-11-10 07:01:28 PM tammymb I am fron North Carolina
2016-11-10 07:01:44 PM kathyhughes How are your holiday plans going?
2016-11-10 07:01:49 PM mlmusic enter the chat room
2016-11-10 07:01:57 PM loybrooklyn In full swing!
2016-11-10 07:02:04 PM reneegu It's going great over here.
2016-11-10 07:02:06 PM kelly326 Big Veteran's Day program tomorrow!!!
2016-11-10 07:02:20 PM kateordway our tree is going up this week in the lobby
2016-11-10 07:02:21 PM kathyhughes What is Gobble till you Wobble?

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