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2017-10-18 06:01:00 PM cynkarnes76 enter the chat room
2017-10-18 06:08:39 PM cynkarnes76 Hi, Cynthia Karnes, Mepap2: 100317, showed up for Specialty Swing bed chat but there is no one here.
2017-10-18 06:08:54 PM cynkarnes76 left the chat room
2017-10-18 06:17:24 PM lindsaylu85 enter the chat room
2017-10-18 06:18:12 PM lindsaylu85 Lindsay Grossenbacher, me2-100317 came for swing bed chat but nobody is here! :(
2017-10-18 06:19:31 PM lindsaylu85 left the chat room
2017-10-25 05:49:44 PM isabel1 enter the chat room
2017-10-25 05:51:01 PM matthewc enter the chat room
2017-10-25 05:53:24 PM isabel1 HI cynthia, lindsay. My name is isabel ME2-OWNPACE. I'm from Richmond, VA
2017-10-25 05:54:14 PM tcarswell55 enter the chat room
2017-10-25 05:54:33 PM isabel1 Hi Matthewc, tcarswell55
2017-10-25 05:54:42 PM tcarswell55 hello
2017-10-25 05:55:22 PM tcarswell55 is this the extra credit
2017-10-25 05:55:22 PM cchase enter the chat room
2017-10-25 05:55:43 PM isabel1 guess we are early. let's wait for a few more minutes
2017-10-25 05:55:44 PM cchase hey you all..how are you doing tonight?
2017-10-25 05:55:53 PM tcarswell55 hello
2017-10-25 05:55:56 PM cchase I am here isabel
2017-10-25 05:55:57 PM isabel1 there you go. Hi ms celeste
2017-10-25 05:56:18 PM isabel1 nice to hear from you again Ms. Celeste
2017-10-25 05:56:25 PM cchase sorry --were you waiting?
2017-10-25 05:56:33 PM cchase same here isabel...
2017-10-25 05:57:02 PM cchase my clock is on time... I hope1
2017-10-25 05:57:04 PM isabel1 not really. we are just early.
2017-10-25 05:57:10 PM cchase ok
2017-10-25 05:57:14 PM matthewc hey all!
2017-10-25 05:57:35 PM cchase so tonight's specialty chat topic is Adult Day
2017-10-25 05:57:43 PM cchase hey matthew welcome
2017-10-25 05:58:02 PM isabel1 yes, i am so much interested in aduld day care.
2017-10-25 05:58:25 PM cchase anyone here with experience in Adult Day Health ctr?
2017-10-25 05:58:25 PM matthewc I know very little about Adult Day Care, so interested in learning a little
2017-10-25 05:58:41 PM isabel1 are there new stuff that we need to know ms celeste?
2017-10-25 05:58:57 PM tcarswell55 i have never worked in adult day care just what i learn here
2017-10-25 05:59:16 PM cchase would you all state the class you are enrolled in and what type of facility you work it for me?
2017-10-25 05:59:17 PM isabel1 I don't have experience, i just read about them
2017-10-25 06:00:12 PM isabel1 Isabel Tabadero MEPAPII-OWNPACE. I work at a Skilled Nursing and Rehab Center here in Richmond, VA
2017-10-25 06:00:12 PM tcarswell55 mepap 1 080117 long term and rehab
2017-10-25 06:00:14 PM matthewc ME2-090517, I work in a Long Term Nursing Home and Rehabilitation center
2017-10-25 06:00:36 PM cchase wow - so LTC and rehab....
2017-10-25 06:00:47 PM cynkarnes76 enter the chat room
2017-10-25 06:00:54 PM cchase ok - so let's see what you might guess about adult day
2017-10-25 06:00:56 PM tcarswell55 i have worked in ltc and rehab for 16 years as a cna
2017-10-25 06:01:10 PM cchase how would you imagine it to be the same or different from LTC
2017-10-25 06:01:12 PM cynkarnes76 Hi all, Cynthia Mepap2 100317
2017-10-25 06:01:33 PM cchase hey cynkarnes welcome
2017-10-25 06:01:35 PM cassie10 enter the chat room
2017-10-25 06:01:45 PM cchase welcome cassie
2017-10-25 06:01:51 PM tcarswell55 adult day care they go home and rehab they stay
2017-10-25 06:02:03 PM cchase yup
2017-10-25 06:02:05 PM isabel1 LTC is 24 hour, adlt day care is during the day only?
2017-10-25 06:02:11 PM matthewc well LTC is long term placement and ADC they leave every day
2017-10-25 06:02:11 PM cchase yup
2017-10-25 06:02:24 PM cchase keep going
2017-10-25 06:02:26 PM cassie10 I am in MEPAP 1 started 10/03, work in long term
2017-10-25 06:02:30 PM cynkarnes76 similar field, Adult day with individs with developmental disabilities from 18-55
2017-10-25 06:02:38 PM tcarswell55 adult day care have multiple activities for different age groups
2017-10-25 06:02:47 PM cchase yup
2017-10-25 06:02:48 PM matthewc so would ADC have limiatations to the care they provide?
2017-10-25 06:02:59 PM cchase good question
2017-10-25 06:03:19 PM cchase two models of adult day care ctrs. out there
2017-10-25 06:03:31 PM cassie10 we have a gentleman that came to our facility from adult day care and I am struggling to find things for him to do, he is deaf
2017-10-25 06:03:34 PM cchase one is a social model - other is a medical model
2017-10-25 06:03:50 PM cynkarnes76 and do all activity staff have cna backgrounds?
2017-10-25 06:04:06 PM matthewc I don't Cyn.
2017-10-25 06:04:08 PM tcarswell55 i live in florida i know we have adult daycare because i see the bus i just dont know where one is i need to find one and go visit for a day
2017-10-25 06:04:12 PM cchase he will need visual related engagement..for sure..we can discuss later
2017-10-25 06:04:29 PM cynkarnes76 I mean in Adult Day, something before about a lot of nursing and cnas on board came up
2017-10-25 06:04:37 PM isabel1 i am following
2017-10-25 06:04:49 PM cchase the medical model has RN's CNA'S
2017-10-25 06:05:02 PM cchase also have activity staff
2017-10-25 06:05:19 PM cchase social model does not employ RN's / CNA's
2017-10-25 06:05:38 PM tcarswell55 i didnt know there was two types
2017-10-25 06:05:44 PM cchase so those attending social model are able to do more for themselves
2017-10-25 06:05:54 PM matthewc ahhh
2017-10-25 06:06:22 PM cchase some social models do allow for medication passes...others do not
2017-10-25 06:06:29 PM sjorgensen enter the chat room
2017-10-25 06:06:42 PM cchase the medical model can have those in need of more medical related folks
2017-10-25 06:06:51 PM val5 enter the chat room
2017-10-25 06:06:53 PM matthewc So who passes medication if now RN's/CNA's are employed? Med techs?
2017-10-25 06:06:59 PM tcarswell55 so who passes the medication if they dont employ nurses and cna do they have med tech
2017-10-25 06:07:15 PM matthewc hahaha
2017-10-25 06:07:15 PM cchase we have oxygen - diabetics (needing insulin}
2017-10-25 06:07:17 PM matthewc jinx
2017-10-25 06:07:27 PM tcarswell55 mathewc you copy my question lol
2017-10-25 06:07:39 PM sjorgensen Hi Guys...sorry I'm a little late. Had some trouble finding out how to get into a "Speciality Chat!" What are we talking about?
2017-10-25 06:07:43 PM isabel1 can you consider an adult learning institute that offer langage lessons, card games, msic, dances and religious group activities an abult day care? they come in the day, then go home afterwards.
2017-10-25 06:07:59 PM cchase tcarswell - the social model employs those that are certified to help with meds.
2017-10-25 06:08:18 PM cassie10 I think that adult day care is a great way for these indviduals to get out
2017-10-25 06:08:22 PM tcarswell55 ok
2017-10-25 06:08:35 PM cchase they cannot adjust dose - they can watch to be sure the medical is taken - that's all
2017-10-25 06:09:02 PM jatkins enter the chat room
2017-10-25 06:09:05 PM cchase I am a program director for a medical model ctr.
2017-10-25 06:09:06 PM cynkarnes76 isabel1: we have something like that for 55 and over individuals but it is like a continuing education campus for seniors and I won't consider it the same as Adult Day Care. (in my opinion)
2017-10-25 06:09:23 PM cchase I agree cyn
2017-10-25 06:09:24 PM val5 At my adult day we made of point of weekly out trips
2017-10-25 06:09:27 PM jatkins thank you hi all
2017-10-25 06:09:28 PM cchase not the same
2017-10-25 06:09:39 PM cchase hey jatkins welcome
2017-10-25 06:09:42 PM isabel1 cyn. i got it.
2017-10-25 06:10:02 PM jatkins thank you couldnt find chat
2017-10-25 06:10:08 PM isabel1 yeah i got it now.
2017-10-25 06:10:27 PM cchase great
2017-10-25 06:10:34 PM matthewc Medicaid/Medicare, Do they take both? Or is it mostly private pay in your experience?
2017-10-25 06:10:50 PM isabel1 so what is the role of the activities professional in adlt day care?
2017-10-25 06:11:00 PM cchase we take private payers and medicaid
2017-10-25 06:11:00 PM val5 Our center is only private pay
2017-10-25 06:11:17 PM tcarswell55 if they do privite pay does it cost alot
2017-10-25 06:11:19 PM cchase same as LTC isabel
2017-10-25 06:11:28 PM jatkins Do you do alot of crafts?
2017-10-25 06:11:30 PM cynkarnes76 Activity Professionals would be the facilitatiors for activities.
2017-10-25 06:11:41 PM cchase only thing is the I have ALL staff partake of leading activities.
2017-10-25 06:11:52 PM cchase my RN's will do a health program
2017-10-25 06:11:53 PM isabel1 oh great! so i can work at an adult day care too!
2017-10-25 06:12:11 PM cchase CNA's help when they are done with ADL's
2017-10-25 06:12:17 PM tcarswell55 do they hire LPN
2017-10-25 06:12:28 PM cassie10 how do they get Medicad to pay for it ?
2017-10-25 06:12:28 PM kathryn1 enter the chat room
2017-10-25 06:12:36 PM val5 We also have LNA and activites working together on all programs
2017-10-25 06:12:37 PM matthewc ahhwelcome kathryn!
2017-10-25 06:12:49 PM cchase I do not have an LPN because an LPN must have oversight from a RN for certain things
2017-10-25 06:12:58 PM kathryn1 Ok, thanks.
2017-10-25 06:13:06 PM tcarswell55 ooo ok
2017-10-25 06:13:15 PM cchase surveyors... love to see all involved in actvities
2017-10-25 06:13:26 PM tcarswell55 what does the cna do for adl
2017-10-25 06:13:37 PM cchase the state of "quality of life" is more enriched when all are part of it
2017-10-25 06:13:41 PM isabel1 our CNAs are very good at taking the residents to their preferred activities
2017-10-25 06:13:59 PM jatkins I agree
2017-10-25 06:14:03 PM cynkarnes76 Celeste, it would be nice and helpful if that was the case in every facility....
2017-10-25 06:14:03 PM val5 Our activites are acrylic painting, wood working, we have visiting artists and musicians.
2017-10-25 06:14:12 PM matthewc my guess is CNA's assist with feeding, bathrooms, cleaning up. ADC's have meals, right? lol
2017-10-25 06:14:24 PM sjorgensen Would adult day care also be considered respite care...and vice versa???
2017-10-25 06:14:38 PM kathryn1 Adult Day. Have anyone worked with a residentin adult day?
2017-10-25 06:14:53 PM jatkins no
2017-10-25 06:14:53 PM cchase yes it would but not all do the same
2017-10-25 06:15:20 PM cchase yes correct matthew but our activity staff will also help with ADL's
2017-10-25 06:15:54 PM jatkins How many are at your facility?
2017-10-25 06:15:56 PM tcarswell55 i dont know if you answered this does the activity staff have be CNA
2017-10-25 06:15:56 PM val5 On occassion we took short term individuals for a week or two so family could have a break.
2017-10-25 06:16:02 PM cchase so if someone calls in sick we can pull from activity staff or CNA's to make things work well
2017-10-25 06:16:10 PM kathryn1 I agree , an respite a place for families to take their love ones M-F.
2017-10-25 06:16:17 PM isabel1 our activity staff can not do direct patient care.
2017-10-25 06:16:21 PM cchase no activity staff does not need to be a CNA
2017-10-25 06:16:30 PM cynkarnes76 Celeste: So if you have an Activity Staff that is not a CNA, he or she is allowed to feed your participant?
2017-10-25 06:16:41 PM cchase but our activity staff are certified as Direct care support
2017-10-25 06:17:00 PM jatkins only Mon. thru Fri?
2017-10-25 06:17:03 PM tcarswell55 i have never heard of direct care support
2017-10-25 06:17:03 PM cchase yes.. activity staff feeds as well
2017-10-25 06:17:15 PM val5 We were trained to assist with meals and ambulation
2017-10-25 06:17:34 PM cchase this typically only applies to Adult Day Health
2017-10-25 06:17:54 PM cchase LTC.... seperates the functions and job duties
2017-10-25 06:17:55 PM matthewc wow vastly different from my place and what is allowed vs not
2017-10-25 06:18:04 PM sjorgensen Our activities dept cannot help feed without special training.
2017-10-25 06:18:18 PM kathryn1 True.
2017-10-25 06:18:25 PM cchase it only makes sense... like during lunch time
2017-10-25 06:18:30 PM isabel1 when we go on outing, a CNA should accompany us, however, in our case right now, they do not let a CNA go with us on outings anymore because I am also a CNA, Medtech and CPR-First Aid certified. hmm.
2017-10-25 06:18:52 PM cchase when they need to toilet... if all the CNA are busy who is left to feed?
2017-10-25 06:19:00 PM val5 We cannot go on a trip without an LNA
2017-10-25 06:19:04 PM sjorgensen Neither can any of our "student" CNA's. Not until they get certified.
2017-10-25 06:19:18 PM cchase correct...a CNA should go on outings
2017-10-25 06:19:19 PM lindsaylu85 enter the chat room
2017-10-25 06:19:25 PM lindsaylu85 hi
2017-10-25 06:19:34 PM matthewc hey lindsay
2017-10-25 06:19:37 PM cchase no students' cannot until certification
2017-10-25 06:19:38 PM cynkarnes76 Well, your Direct Care Staff would be certified right?
2017-10-25 06:19:39 PM isabel1 that's it, they said, i am CNA too so...
2017-10-25 06:19:48 PM tcarswell55 question do you meet the participates before they can come
2017-10-25 06:19:53 PM jatkins I work memory care. Where do ya work?
2017-10-25 06:19:54 PM cchase direct care certified. ---yes
2017-10-25 06:20:00 PM cchase not CNA certified
2017-10-25 06:20:08 PM sjorgensen Especially if a resident has "dysphasia!"... or any kind of swallowing issues.
2017-10-25 06:20:18 PM lindsaylu85 sorry im late. just finished trick or treat at work.
2017-10-25 06:20:26 PM cchase correct sjorgensen
2017-10-25 06:20:28 PM cynkarnes76 I wasn't certified as a Direct Care Professional in Colorado, but I was allowed to do some perineal care and other CNA duties at the place I worked at.
2017-10-25 06:20:37 PM cchase welcome lindsay
2017-10-25 06:20:37 PM val5 We are trained to mix thickened liquids and do total assist meals
2017-10-25 06:20:46 PM kathryn1 I have never heard of Direct Care Aid...
2017-10-25 06:20:55 PM tcarswell55 me either
2017-10-25 06:20:59 PM cassie10 I also have never heard of Direct care aid
2017-10-25 06:21:12 PM cassie10 very interesting to learn about this. thank you
2017-10-25 06:21:13 PM matthewc we were trained on food textures, thickening, serving. but not actual feeding. only CNA's can do that here.
2017-10-25 06:21:16 PM lindsaylu85 me either
2017-10-25 06:21:17 PM jatkins me either
2017-10-25 06:21:22 PM sjorgensen What kind of training does a Direct Care Aid need?
2017-10-25 06:21:42 PM kathryn1 Almost sound like LVN trainig
2017-10-25 06:22:04 PM cchase I have a specific training pamplet that my RN's and I wrote together...then it was approved by the state regulators
2017-10-25 06:22:20 PM cchase similar training to CNA to some extent
2017-10-25 06:22:33 PM tcarswell55 cchase are you a nurse
2017-10-25 06:22:34 PM cchase ADL's - noticing issues..
2017-10-25 06:22:43 PM sjorgensen How long does it take to become a Direct Care Aid?
2017-10-25 06:22:55 PM kathryn1 What part of the State?
2017-10-25 06:22:57 PM cchase I am not a certified nurse but I am certified dementia practitioner
2017-10-25 06:23:03 PM isabel1 wow, that's interesting. i would have to ask around if we have Direct Care training
2017-10-25 06:23:07 PM val5 why be an aide instead of LNA
2017-10-25 06:23:13 PM cchase with a ton of clinical training
2017-10-25 06:23:29 PM cchase Massachusetts
2017-10-25 06:23:44 PM tcarswell55 how long have you been doing it
2017-10-25 06:24:17 PM cchase I was one of the founders of the center some five years ago
2017-10-25 06:24:45 PM cchase so what about paperwork? how is it the same or different from LTC to Adult Day?
2017-10-25 06:24:46 PM tcarswell55 wow so how long as adult day care going
2017-10-25 06:24:49 PM cassie10 dementia practitioner, can you explain what that is? we have alot of dementia residents
2017-10-25 06:24:57 PM isabel1 wow, so were chatting with a pioneer, a legend here!
2017-10-25 06:24:58 PM kathryn1 So what do yo do now?
2017-10-25 06:25:22 PM cassie10 that is awesome cchase :)
2017-10-25 06:25:37 PM cchase I am certified as an activity consultant work with several ctrs. to ensure they meet regulaltions
2017-10-25 06:25:56 PM val5 At my faciltiy we are all dementia trained by an outside specialist
2017-10-25 06:26:04 PM matthewc we are too
2017-10-25 06:26:05 PM cchase I have worked with Alzheimer's for over 12 years - wait - maybe longer
2017-10-25 06:26:27 PM sjorgensen The new regulations say something about having a certified dementia practitioner in each facility with memory care residents.
2017-10-25 06:26:38 PM val5 We are certified dementia instructors with 2year certificates
2017-10-25 06:26:54 PM sjorgensen Certified through NCCDP?
2017-10-25 06:26:56 PM cchase yes- minimum of certified in dementia care
2017-10-25 06:27:07 PM cchase yes... through NCCDP
2017-10-25 06:27:29 PM isabel1 I have been attending Dementia training as I am volunteering with the Alzheimer's Association here. also plan of taking all the trainings there is available lol
2017-10-25 06:27:45 PM cchase great...keep that training going
2017-10-25 06:27:47 PM val5 I developed a "sensitivity training" for Lna's and other non activites staff and run it 4 times a year
2017-10-25 06:28:06 PM cchase I moderate an Alzheimer's chat as well as this adult day chat
2017-10-25 06:28:15 PM cchase next wed... is Alz chat
2017-10-25 06:28:21 PM tcarswell55 ok
2017-10-25 06:28:30 PM sjorgensen I was just going to ask you that!
2017-10-25 06:28:33 PM val5 80 percent of our clients have dementia everyone should have training
2017-10-25 06:28:37 PM cchase LOL
2017-10-25 06:28:51 PM sjorgensen I agree that everyone needs some kind of dementia training.
2017-10-25 06:28:56 PM matthewc agreed
2017-10-25 06:29:00 PM kathryn1 This sounds like a really great opportunity.
2017-10-25 06:29:01 PM cchase yes... we can discuss Alz/ dementia next week chat
2017-10-25 06:29:25 PM cchase so how do you suppose the paperwork differs from LTC and adult day?
2017-10-25 06:29:31 PM sjorgensen Now that I know how to get into the Specialty Chat Room, I'll plan on attending that chat.
2017-10-25 06:29:36 PM val5 we even train family members at support groups
2017-10-25 06:29:45 PM tcarswell55 so what do yall have plan for the holidays
2017-10-25 06:29:56 PM cynkarnes76 Depends on your computer system, software you use
2017-10-25 06:29:57 PM cchase val5 - do attend next weeks chat on Alz
2017-10-25 06:29:59 PM cassie10 val5 that is great that you train family, do you have voulnteers
2017-10-25 06:30:04 PM cchase you are all invited too
2017-10-25 06:30:08 PM val5 I will
2017-10-25 06:30:31 PM isabel1 i just attended a Dementia Conference where i learned about the ongoing researches, will attend an interdisiciplinary conference on nov 17th. Ah, ok, will just talk about it next week!
2017-10-25 06:30:32 PM jatkins We have support groups too really helpful for family
2017-10-25 06:30:35 PM cchase well - do you think the two need all the same paperwork and reporting structure?
2017-10-25 06:30:42 PM matthewc hmmm paperwork. My guess is there is no record kept for who attended?
2017-10-25 06:30:53 PM matthewc or its different
2017-10-25 06:31:09 PM cchase attendance is a must for billing purposes
2017-10-25 06:31:19 PM cchase particularly when billing medicare
2017-10-25 06:31:20 PM cynkarnes76 it has to be customized for Adult Day setting
2017-10-25 06:31:21 PM isabel1 I am well adept with LTC documentation, but not so sure about Adult Day Care
2017-10-25 06:31:38 PM matthewc ahh hmm...im not so sure then
2017-10-25 06:31:40 PM cchase do you think they do progress notes??
2017-10-25 06:31:47 PM tcarswell55 yes
2017-10-25 06:31:48 PM cynkarnes76 Documentation for activities is similar
2017-10-25 06:31:50 PM cchase care plans?
2017-10-25 06:31:55 PM jatkins Yes
2017-10-25 06:31:55 PM isabel1 as in attendance in activities?
2017-10-25 06:31:55 PM cynkarnes76 yes
2017-10-25 06:31:58 PM tcarswell55 yes
2017-10-25 06:31:59 PM cchase activity participation
2017-10-25 06:32:03 PM sjorgensen Any educational groups are helpful...
2017-10-25 06:32:08 PM cynkarnes76 definitely
2017-10-25 06:32:16 PM cchase significant change
2017-10-25 06:32:18 PM kathryn1 This info has been great. I am going to check into this.
2017-10-25 06:32:33 PM cynkarnes76 yes
2017-10-25 06:32:39 PM tcarswell55 if there is a significant change what do yall do
2017-10-25 06:33:09 PM cchase my RN's write change after consulting with the Dr. and family
2017-10-25 06:33:10 PM sjorgensen Support groups and educating the families is helpful.
2017-10-25 06:33:16 PM isabel1 assessment and care plans are major factors for billing purposes
2017-10-25 06:33:33 PM cchase then activities will reasses... care plan to address the change
2017-10-25 06:33:50 PM cchase yes - isabel correct
2017-10-25 06:34:03 PM cchase we have family care plan meetings
2017-10-25 06:34:03 PM isabel1 sigcchange, reassess, same as in LTC
2017-10-25 06:34:12 PM cchase yup - same
2017-10-25 06:34:19 PM cchase I have a social worker
2017-10-25 06:34:20 PM isabel1 yay!
2017-10-25 06:34:30 PM tcarswell55 do you have everything on the computer
2017-10-25 06:34:40 PM cchase I have a hairdresser!!! (lol)
2017-10-25 06:34:47 PM val5 we give input at the careplan but the director and nurse actually do them
2017-10-25 06:34:54 PM cchase yes- computer... patient records
2017-10-25 06:35:08 PM jatkins What kinds of events do you do?
2017-10-25 06:35:19 PM cchase my activity director will do the care planning
2017-10-25 06:35:28 PM sjorgensen So, when you reassess for s significant change, do you have to start over...with a new MDS, Assessment, Note and Care Plan?
2017-10-25 06:35:29 PM cchase nurses do clinical care planning
2017-10-25 06:36:00 PM sjorgensen Is it all done in PCC?
2017-10-25 06:36:00 PM cchase MDS must be updated...assesment. note and care plan too
2017-10-25 06:36:19 PM isabel1 family care plans: social worker, charge nurse or the unit manager, rehab and dietary are present
2017-10-25 06:36:24 PM cynkarnes76 I use PCC too, but not all have this
2017-10-25 06:36:24 PM tcarswell55 care plan meetings ???
2017-10-25 06:36:36 PM cchase yes - care plan meetings
2017-10-25 06:36:43 PM cchase support groups
2017-10-25 06:36:43 PM matthewc PCC
2017-10-25 06:36:43 PM isabel1 we use PCC too bt still use paper assessment.
2017-10-25 06:36:56 PM cchase we also have a physical therapist...
2017-10-25 06:37:13 PM tcarswell55 i use pcc but have to write my assesments
2017-10-25 06:37:27 PM isabel1 rehab includes PT, OT and Speech Therapist
2017-10-25 06:37:34 PM cchase she often works with activities on engagement for things to help then with PT
2017-10-25 06:37:34 PM val5 How big is your facility that you can have PT
2017-10-25 06:37:53 PM kathryn1 I really enjoy the care plan because I learn about the family.
2017-10-25 06:38:07 PM cchase if the activity director is NOT certified - the activity calendar must be signed off by PT
2017-10-25 06:38:27 PM cchase I have an average of 40-45 participants daily
2017-10-25 06:38:41 PM cassie10 that is alot of participants
2017-10-25 06:38:42 PM tcarswell55 do the participates have to be there a certain amount of hours
2017-10-25 06:38:59 PM sjorgensen What if the activity director has a "consultant?" Does the calendar still have to be signed off by PT?
2017-10-25 06:39:11 PM cchase yes - for billing medicare - there is a minimum hrs.
2017-10-25 06:39:14 PM cchase daily
2017-10-25 06:39:31 PM cynkarnes76 Celeste: if I recall there are different rooms of activities, not all participants attend the same class at the same time?
2017-10-25 06:39:34 PM tcarswell55 what the minimum
2017-10-25 06:39:41 PM cchase activity director consultant... like activity staff??
2017-10-25 06:40:19 PM cchase yes. cyn - different rooms - they choose which activity they want to attend.
2017-10-25 06:40:38 PM cchase in our state the minimum is currently 6 hrs.
2017-10-25 06:40:45 PM val5 It's important to have choices of programs at the same time. Then have a large area for special event
2017-10-25 06:40:47 PM jatkins What kind activities
2017-10-25 06:40:51 PM sjorgensen Activity Director Consultant...not the same as activity staff...she comes once a month to check the PCC records and makes sure the one-to-one's are being done and that the calendar is being followed. Kind of like an activities "watch-dog!"
2017-10-25 06:40:59 PM cynkarnes76 is that a daily choice of activity when they arrive or do they sign up ahead of time?
2017-10-25 06:41:35 PM isabel1 Wow, i can only have 40-60 on special events that involves food and entertainmnet. music and exercises, arond 20, and biNGO around 20 regulars but varies because with our short term rehab guests.
2017-10-25 06:41:42 PM cchase oh... Activity Consultant certified. --- yes can sign off on calendar
2017-10-25 06:41:55 PM sjorgensen Whew...I'm glad about that!
2017-10-25 06:42:08 PM val5 A weekly calendar works well. If you are taking folks out, family should be notified well ahead of time.
2017-10-25 06:42:24 PM cchase they have the montly calendar... then activities will post the days events up on board for them to check out daily
2017-10-25 06:43:05 PM sjorgensen I think she's helping our facility get ready for our state survey...Making sure that we've got everything in place.
2017-10-25 06:43:46 PM cchase super good idea to have someone do that sjorgensen
2017-10-25 06:44:02 PM sjorgensen I definitely appreciate her input.
2017-10-25 06:44:15 PM cynkarnes76 the participants can be a combination of levels (IL, AL, Dementia and even individuals with developmental disabilities) correct?
2017-10-25 06:44:16 PM jatkins Do you have good websites for activities you use?
2017-10-25 06:44:19 PM isabel1 we have monthly calendar, which i plan. I have regular programs for our long term and scattered/random activities for the more independent/short term/rehab guests.

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