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2020-10-29 06:51:38 PM erittenhouse1683 families tend to cover up their loved ones deficits
2020-10-29 06:52:12 PM tamirudd I think I have it lol
2020-10-29 06:52:41 PM tamirudd it is shrinking and loosing cells that retain memories
2020-10-29 06:52:45 PM fillmorepam8 damage to the brain cells
2020-10-29 06:52:57 PM cchase ok - so that is warm
2020-10-29 06:53:04 PM fillmorepam8 tami i think i have it too lol
2020-10-29 06:53:13 PM juliecormier damage to the transmitters
2020-10-29 06:53:17 PM cchase the neurons in the brain are being damaged -
2020-10-29 06:53:25 PM jmeza75 tangles
2020-10-29 06:53:39 PM cchase yes julie the neuro transmitters or neurons fail
2020-10-29 06:53:47 PM cchase good - tangles
2020-10-29 06:53:51 PM melveniag slowly deteriorate
2020-10-29 06:53:57 PM juliecormier Can this be from being hit in the head?
2020-10-29 06:54:03 PM cchase the brain begins to develop plaques and tangles
2020-10-29 06:54:31 PM juliecormier what exactly is a tangle?
2020-10-29 06:54:32 PM tamirudd it is kind of like people with a strok to me. They get frustrated trying to communicate and forget or can't form words.
2020-10-29 06:54:52 PM cchase Alz s is not usually due to impact but dementia absolutely can be due to trauma
2020-10-29 06:54:55 PM tamirudd tangle in thoughts?
2020-10-29 06:55:03 PM juliecormier ok
2020-10-29 06:55:06 PM cchase enven CTE - football results in dementia
2020-10-29 06:55:29 PM cchase physical plaques and tangles begin to grow in the brain
2020-10-29 06:55:33 PM fillmorepam8 yes i read that about dementia..permanent or temporary due to different factors
2020-10-29 06:55:36 PM tamirudd yes from the number of concusions sustained during games
2020-10-29 06:55:44 PM cchase they sever the connection btw. neurons
2020-10-29 06:56:03 PM juliecormier ok
2020-10-29 06:56:14 PM cchase which prevents them from connecting and sending messages to each other
2020-10-29 06:56:25 PM cchase so what messages could that be??
2020-10-29 06:56:26 PM erittenhouse1683 interesting
2020-10-29 06:56:47 PM erittenhouse1683 that you're hungry
2020-10-29 06:56:48 PM juliecormier verbal/ memory
2020-10-29 06:56:56 PM kreese828 filter
2020-10-29 06:57:05 PM cchase keep going
2020-10-29 06:57:06 PM fillmorepam8 everything, behavior,feelings, thinking
2020-10-29 06:57:13 PM erittenhouse1683 speech
2020-10-29 06:57:16 PM juliecormier 5 senses
2020-10-29 06:57:17 PM melveniag hungry
2020-10-29 06:57:25 PM erittenhouse1683 throw off your gait
2020-10-29 06:57:37 PM debbief82 enter the chat room
2020-10-29 06:57:49 PM cchase indeed - the brain begins to fail in it's task to tell the body how to function
2020-10-29 06:58:00 PM jford124 anything cognitive
2020-10-29 06:58:16 PM cchase the brain executes all commands throughout the body
2020-10-29 06:58:27 PM kreese828 also... the ability to know when to use the restroom
2020-10-29 06:58:37 PM tamirudd is this due to the plaque deposits in the brain
2020-10-29 06:58:46 PM cchase that is correct - the body fails to sense a full bladder
2020-10-29 06:59:03 PM cchase fails to smell - forgets how to chew food -- etc.
2020-10-29 06:59:10 PM jmeza75 executive functions
2020-10-29 06:59:23 PM juliecormier very sad
2020-10-29 06:59:55 PM cchase Alz. is a terminal disease - eventually the organs no longer rec. commands from the brain to know how to function and organs fail
2020-10-29 07:00:15 PM cchase yes sad for sure
2020-10-29 07:00:24 PM fillmorepam8 Celeste I read somewhere that someone with alzheimers can not draw a clock and place the numbers and hands correctly that is one way to test..is that true
2020-10-29 07:00:50 PM cchase yes - that is correct pam
2020-10-29 07:01:03 PM cchase the clock is used in many assessments
2020-10-29 07:01:04 PM erittenhouse1683 wow
2020-10-29 07:01:19 PM ebrown enter the chat room
2020-10-29 07:01:23 PM melveniag nice to know
2020-10-29 07:01:30 PM juliecormier agreed
2020-10-29 07:01:31 PM cchase ok so here is a way to relate to all that information - ready??
2020-10-29 07:01:37 PM erittenhouse1683 yup
2020-10-29 07:01:41 PM fillmorepam8 yes
2020-10-29 07:01:41 PM alexisb yes
2020-10-29 07:01:42 PM kreese828 yes
2020-10-29 07:01:45 PM melveniag yes
2020-10-29 07:01:45 PM tamirudd yest the individual will decline to infiant status
2020-10-29 07:01:47 PM juliecormier yes
2020-10-29 07:02:00 PM ebrown yes
2020-10-29 07:02:06 PM cchase picture a straight & perfect electric wire
2020-10-29 07:02:12 PM kreese828 yes
2020-10-29 07:02:20 PM juliecormier ok
2020-10-29 07:02:24 PM melveniag ok
2020-10-29 07:02:32 PM cchase the elec. pulse can run from one end to another in a blink of an eye
2020-10-29 07:02:51 PM cchase now take that wire and put a knot in the middle - now what?
2020-10-29 07:03:09 PM kreese828 slowr or completely stops
2020-10-29 07:03:14 PM erittenhouse1683 the pulse can't move back and forth
2020-10-29 07:03:27 PM cchase (y)
2020-10-29 07:03:36 PM fillmorepam8 one end cannot reach the other...not connecting
2020-10-29 07:03:38 PM tamirudd can it be that the plaque deposits cause the stop of the impulse
2020-10-29 07:03:38 PM melveniag wow
2020-10-29 07:03:42 PM juliecormier certain areas are affected more than others at first
2020-10-29 07:03:49 PM cchase that knot is an example of plaques & tangles
2020-10-29 07:03:50 PM jford124 the pulse slows then completely stops
2020-10-29 07:03:59 PM debbief82 left the chat room
2020-10-29 07:04:00 PM juliecormier Great example
2020-10-29 07:04:00 PM tamirudd ok
2020-10-29 07:04:09 PM erittenhouse1683 nice visual
2020-10-29 07:04:20 PM melveniag yes
2020-10-29 07:04:24 PM cchase ok so now let talk memory & dementia
2020-10-29 07:04:28 PM cchase ready?
2020-10-29 07:04:33 PM kreese828 yes
2020-10-29 07:04:33 PM erittenhouse1683 ok
2020-10-29 07:04:34 PM juliecormier yes
2020-10-29 07:04:36 PM melveniag ok
2020-10-29 07:04:37 PM fillmorepam8 yes
2020-10-29 07:04:40 PM tamirudd yes
2020-10-29 07:04:40 PM jford124 yup
2020-10-29 07:05:10 PM cchase so you know about these tangle things blocking neurons connections
2020-10-29 07:05:11 PM alexisb yes
2020-10-29 07:05:21 PM juliecormier yes
2020-10-29 07:05:22 PM kreese828 yup
2020-10-29 07:05:22 PM erittenhouse1683 ok
2020-10-29 07:05:39 PM jmeza75 yes
2020-10-29 07:05:46 PM cchase here is another example to related to about memory
2020-10-29 07:06:28 PM cchase you write a word document & give it a title to save it in a particular location on your computer --- right?
2020-10-29 07:06:38 PM jford124 right
2020-10-29 07:06:38 PM juliecormier yes
2020-10-29 07:06:43 PM melveniag ok
2020-10-29 07:06:44 PM fillmorepam8 right
2020-10-29 07:06:52 PM erittenhouse1683 ok
2020-10-29 07:07:05 PM tamirudd right
2020-10-29 07:07:06 PM cchase in this way - you can recall that document when you ask for it by name
2020-10-29 07:07:26 PM cchase so now - your computer gets a virus
2020-10-29 07:07:38 PM kreese828 exactly
2020-10-29 07:07:49 PM cchase the virus blocks the pathway to retrive that file
2020-10-29 07:07:56 PM tamirudd then it eats your document
2020-10-29 07:08:08 PM cchase you know the name of the file - but you cannot access it
2020-10-29 07:08:08 PM juliecormier ok
2020-10-29 07:08:14 PM cchase not eating yet
2020-10-29 07:08:26 PM melveniag lol
2020-10-29 07:08:34 PM juliecormier following ya
2020-10-29 07:08:42 PM cchase you save your memories - before the onset of Alz
2020-10-29 07:08:59 PM cchase those memories are called LTM - long term memories
2020-10-29 07:09:16 PM cchase they were stored - before disease onset
2020-10-29 07:09:27 PM juliecormier ok
2020-10-29 07:09:40 PM cchase so when you play that music - it triggers something familiar
2020-10-29 07:09:53 PM cchase but it unclear yet so so so familiar
2020-10-29 07:10:08 PM melveniag right
2020-10-29 07:10:13 PM cchase they can even sing the words perfectly
2020-10-29 07:10:18 PM juliecormier makes sense
2020-10-29 07:10:25 PM tamirudd this is where the anxiety begins to cause issues
2020-10-29 07:10:34 PM cchase yes - good tami
2020-10-29 07:10:43 PM fillmorepam8 great analogy and thats exactly what i love about music. I have a lady that has crazy word salad but she can see word to word with elvis..it amazes me everytime...sometimes to tears
2020-10-29 07:11:01 PM cchase yup so so common
2020-10-29 07:11:21 PM tamirudd they may even seem like someone else to their family
2020-10-29 07:11:35 PM cchase so the disease continues - blocking the ability to save information altogether
2020-10-29 07:12:00 PM tamirudd may have depression or withdraw from regular activities
2020-10-29 07:12:10 PM cchase now the person cannot save anything at all - this is called - STM short term memory
2020-10-29 07:12:23 PM juliecormier recalling a loved ones name
2020-10-29 07:12:40 PM cchase even 3-5 mins. later - they cannot remember
2020-10-29 07:12:43 PM erittenhouse1683 remembering that you just used the bathroom
2020-10-29 07:12:45 PM tamirudd kinda like at the facility you meet the nurse and tomorrow you meet them again
2020-10-29 07:13:06 PM cchase that is also one of the cognitive tests done beside the clock
2020-10-29 07:13:13 PM tamirudd the mini memory test three items
2020-10-29 07:13:35 PM jford124 3 words
2020-10-29 07:13:41 PM cchase the person is give a few words to remember then asked very shortly thereafter to repeat them
2020-10-29 07:13:48 PM cchase yup
2020-10-29 07:13:52 PM jford124 bed, blue and sock
2020-10-29 07:14:00 PM cchase i forget
2020-10-29 07:14:07 PM jford124 done it a time or two
2020-10-29 07:14:08 PM juliecormier i do also
2020-10-29 07:14:10 PM tamirudd yes they have to numeber the clock and start out correct then the numbers go to a straight line and disapear
2020-10-29 07:14:11 PM melveniag me too
2020-10-29 07:14:12 PM cchase bed blue bulb
2020-10-29 07:14:16 PM fillmorepam8 yes bed, blue, sock
2020-10-29 07:14:24 PM juliecormier what does this mean?
2020-10-29 07:14:37 PM melveniag bed blue and sock
2020-10-29 07:14:41 PM tamirudd we have dementia lol
2020-10-29 07:14:42 PM jford124 we do sock. soemtime we change it up for our really long term residents
2020-10-29 07:14:43 PM cchase it presents STM - short term memory
2020-10-29 07:14:43 PM erittenhouse1683 ive heard the 3 word thing, but never seen the clock
2020-10-29 07:15:05 PM cchase do you understand Julie??
2020-10-29 07:15:06 PM lhalfacre enter the chat room
2020-10-29 07:15:10 PM juliecormier so can we have stm at a younger age and it not be alz related?
2020-10-29 07:15:24 PM tamirudd yes maam
2020-10-29 07:15:57 PM lhalfacre cchase I am sorry I am late, but my dog just died and the whole family is pretty broke up
2020-10-29 07:16:06 PM juliecormier yes mam I understand
2020-10-29 07:16:17 PM cchase OMG ! so truly sorry
2020-10-29 07:16:18 PM melveniag so sorry
2020-10-29 07:16:28 PM ebrown so sorry
2020-10-29 07:16:32 PM tamirudd so sorry
2020-10-29 07:16:36 PM jford124 so sorry
2020-10-29 07:16:38 PM juliecormier prayers for you and the family. That truely stinks
2020-10-29 07:16:42 PM fillmorepam8 so sorry to hear about your dog..prayers to you and your ohana
2020-10-29 07:16:42 PM tamirudd yes
2020-10-29 07:16:51 PM lhalfacre cchase I am sorry to post to room, I tried posting private
2020-10-29 07:17:03 PM cchase you may stay if that helps to distract - but you might have to attend another for credit ok??
2020-10-29 07:17:25 PM lhalfacre cchase Okay
2020-10-29 07:17:29 PM lhalfacre cchase Thank You
2020-10-29 07:17:56 PM cchase I got distracted - sorry folks
2020-10-29 07:18:07 PM juliecormier no worries
2020-10-29 07:18:22 PM cchase where were we?? I forgot
2020-10-29 07:18:27 PM melveniag that's ok
2020-10-29 07:18:27 PM kreese828 no worries at all
2020-10-29 07:18:28 PM jford124 stm
2020-10-29 07:18:32 PM juliecormier lol stm
2020-10-29 07:18:33 PM fillmorepam8 lol
2020-10-29 07:18:38 PM cchase oh stm - short term memory
2020-10-29 07:18:46 PM tamirudd yes
2020-10-29 07:18:48 PM fillmorepam8 i was just gonna ask u if u remembered
2020-10-29 07:18:56 PM cchase julie are you ok with that now
2020-10-29 07:18:59 PM kreese828 i like to think of myself to have stm honestly
2020-10-29 07:18:59 PM melveniag memory
2020-10-29 07:19:08 PM tamirudd lol
2020-10-29 07:19:22 PM juliecormier yes mam the examples you gave us tonight helps me to remember! thanks
2020-10-29 07:20:03 PM tamirudd these two diseases are intertwined
2020-10-29 07:20:19 PM cchase ok - so now let's talk dementia
2020-10-29 07:20:23 PM kreese828 ok
2020-10-29 07:20:25 PM juliecormier ok
2020-10-29 07:20:28 PM erittenhouse1683 ok
2020-10-29 07:20:32 PM ebrown ok
2020-10-29 07:20:35 PM jford124 ok
2020-10-29 07:20:36 PM jmeza75 ok
2020-10-29 07:20:36 PM fillmorepam8 ok
2020-10-29 07:20:45 PM cchase Alzheimer's is the disease - like a cold
2020-10-29 07:20:59 PM cchase dementia is a symptom - like a runny nose
2020-10-29 07:21:01 PM kreese828 yes
2020-10-29 07:21:07 PM tamirudd ok
2020-10-29 07:21:13 PM erittenhouse1683 k
2020-10-29 07:21:23 PM fillmorepam8 ok
2020-10-29 07:21:23 PM cchase there are many other diseases that make cause dementia
2020-10-29 07:21:25 PM juliecormier ok cool ex
2020-10-29 07:21:27 PM tamirudd so the cold is the virus that causes the runny nose
2020-10-29 07:21:34 PM cchase yup
2020-10-29 07:21:47 PM cchase like Als is the disease that causes dementia
2020-10-29 07:22:06 PM juliecormier ALS?
2020-10-29 07:22:09 PM fillmorepam8 we have a lady with lewey body dementia...first for me
2020-10-29 07:22:16 PM cchase can you name other diseases that might cause dementia
2020-10-29 07:22:17 PM tamirudd it is sometimes a fast progression
2020-10-29 07:22:29 PM cchase yes lewy body - dementia
2020-10-29 07:22:34 PM jmeza75 vascular
2020-10-29 07:22:35 PM tamirudd vascular disease
2020-10-29 07:22:51 PM cchase yes foo vascular
2020-10-29 07:22:52 PM fillmorepam8 well medication, a brain injury or major sickness
2020-10-29 07:23:04 PM juliecormier We have several with vascular dementia
2020-10-29 07:23:10 PM tamirudd tbi
2020-10-29 07:23:11 PM cchase good medication interactions... brain injury
2020-10-29 07:23:21 PM tamirudd stroke
2020-10-29 07:23:25 PM cchase remember football bassing
2020-10-29 07:23:40 PM tamirudd Tramatic brain injury
2020-10-29 07:23:50 PM juliecormier TBI
2020-10-29 07:23:52 PM lhalfacre Huntington's
2020-10-29 07:24:05 PM jmeza75 huntington disease
2020-10-29 07:24:10 PM lhalfacre Parkinson's
2020-10-29 07:24:10 PM erittenhouse1683 hiv/aids
2020-10-29 07:24:17 PM cchase good
2020-10-29 07:24:23 PM cchase you got it!!!
2020-10-29 07:24:32 PM tamirudd Creutzfeldt-Jakob
2020-10-29 07:24:32 PM lhalfacre diabetes
2020-10-29 07:24:40 PM cchase so dementia is a symptom of a disease
2020-10-29 07:24:57 PM cchase it is also not part of normal aging
2020-10-29 07:25:14 PM juliecormier ok
2020-10-29 07:25:16 PM tamirudd but it is worse with age isn't it
2020-10-29 07:25:25 PM fillmorepam8 diabetes? really im on 3 different insulins great now i know y
2020-10-29 07:25:34 PM melveniag same
2020-10-29 07:25:44 PM cchase it is common in the aging but not normal aging relaated
2020-10-29 07:26:09 PM cchase yes ago they called it senility
2020-10-29 07:26:14 PM tamirudd I guess I miss read I was thinking it was worsened with age
2020-10-29 07:26:47 PM cchase many elders do not have any dementia at all
2020-10-29 07:27:12 PM tamirudd That is wonderful
2020-10-29 07:27:38 PM cchase ok so now we need to talk about how to work with all these issues
2020-10-29 07:27:45 PM cchase ready??
2020-10-29 07:27:48 PM alexisb yes
2020-10-29 07:27:49 PM erittenhouse1683 ok
2020-10-29 07:27:49 PM juliecormier It seems like if they have their minds, their bodies are worn out.
2020-10-29 07:27:51 PM jmeza75 yes
2020-10-29 07:27:53 PM fillmorepam8 ready
2020-10-29 07:27:56 PM melveniag ready
2020-10-29 07:28:05 PM juliecormier ready
2020-10-29 07:28:05 PM cchase kinda true julie - sadly so
2020-10-29 07:28:32 PM cchase when it comes to behaviors - the golden rule is to step into there world
2020-10-29 07:28:43 PM fillmorepam8 true
2020-10-29 07:28:47 PM kreese828 I just had to do that today
2020-10-29 07:28:49 PM cchase wherever they may be - so long as it does not cause harm
2020-10-29 07:28:53 PM melveniag true
2020-10-29 07:28:55 PM tamirudd its almost like they are trapped inside themselves
2020-10-29 07:28:56 PM jford124 yup
2020-10-29 07:28:57 PM erittenhouse1683 right
2020-10-29 07:29:04 PM juliecormier ok
2020-10-29 07:29:05 PM ebrown yes
2020-10-29 07:29:13 PM cchase if they think you are the long lost daughter - you become the long lost daughter
2020-10-29 07:29:31 PM cchase or wife, or cousin, etc
2020-10-29 07:29:37 PM juliecormier ok
2020-10-29 07:29:41 PM tamirudd yes or their mom or uncle
2020-10-29 07:29:49 PM melveniag ok
2020-10-29 07:29:50 PM ebrown right keep things as they think
2020-10-29 07:29:52 PM cchase never, never tell them that a loved one has passed away
2020-10-29 07:30:07 PM juliecormier ok
2020-10-29 07:30:09 PM melveniag right
2020-10-29 07:30:10 PM cchase they will relive grief just like new again
2020-10-29 07:30:16 PM tamirudd right they will have a melt down
2020-10-29 07:30:20 PM alexisb oh wow
2020-10-29 07:30:24 PM tamirudd yes over and over
2020-10-29 07:30:26 PM juliecormier I have witnessed that
2020-10-29 07:30:35 PM cchase yes ago - they used to do "reality orientation"
2020-10-29 07:30:37 PM erittenhouse1683 too sad
2020-10-29 07:30:41 PM fillmorepam8 my mom was always mad that my dad did not come and see her so i always said he was fishing or sick
2020-10-29 07:30:48 PM tamirudd its awful
2020-10-29 07:30:48 PM cchase it was awful --- to see them suffer like that
2020-10-29 07:30:59 PM jford124 that would be awful
2020-10-29 07:31:01 PM juliecormier agree
2020-10-29 07:31:02 PM lhalfacre I have a resident that cries every day because she can't find her mommy or daddy
2020-10-29 07:31:03 PM tamirudd heart breaking
2020-10-29 07:31:03 PM kreese828 left the chat room
2020-10-29 07:31:12 PM cchase perfect pam - do you know what we call that?
2020-10-29 07:31:23 PM fillmorepam8 redirecting
2020-10-29 07:31:25 PM cchase there is a name for doing that
2020-10-29 07:31:35 PM melveniag what
2020-10-29 07:31:40 PM cchase nope- "therapeutic fiblets"
2020-10-29 07:31:59 PM fillmorepam8 oh so i told a fiblet?
2020-10-29 07:32:13 PM ebrown we all do
2020-10-29 07:32:15 PM cchase you did..you did
2020-10-29 07:32:17 PM tamirudd yep
2020-10-29 07:32:40 PM cchase always do so if it helps the cause...the resident
2020-10-29 07:32:46 PM fillmorepam8 ok that is new for me..ty
2020-10-29 07:32:56 PM cchase ok - so yu brought up redirection - what is that
2020-10-29 07:33:07 PM juliecormier theraputic fiblet is redirecting?
2020-10-29 07:33:19 PM tamirudd I may be wron but lots of times I just go along to keep them from getting so upset
2020-10-29 07:33:23 PM lhalfacre Try to get the resident to focus on something else
2020-10-29 07:33:24 PM cchase true I suppose - wanted you to know the term
2020-10-29 07:33:31 PM jford124 ive even had residents that would tell me all about where we were and it wasnt the facility, usually wasnt even that time period
2020-10-29 07:33:33 PM cchase correct
2020-10-29 07:33:59 PM cchase had a resient- it was pouring out awful - he was bound to go out in the rain
2020-10-29 07:33:59 PM juliecormier ok just making sure lol
2020-10-29 07:34:19 PM cchase said... hey I am making peanut butter sandwiches - you wanna help
2020-10-29 07:34:20 PM jford124 redirections is a form of distraction
2020-10-29 07:34:30 PM tamirudd yes
2020-10-29 07:34:37 PM melveniag `yes
2020-10-29 07:34:46 PM cchase he ran to the kitchen and forgot about the outdoors
2020-10-29 07:34:54 PM tamirudd or can you watch my baby doll while I work
2020-10-29 07:35:13 PM cchase always try to shift the focus if you need to change the mood
2020-10-29 07:35:14 PM ebrown we become who or what ever time they are in to keep them happy.
2020-10-29 07:35:21 PM cchase good tami
2020-10-29 07:35:23 PM juliecormier yes agree
2020-10-29 07:35:28 PM tamirudd yes
2020-10-29 07:35:32 PM fillmorepam8 oh celeste i will be a difficult resident i would get the pbj to eat in the rain
2020-10-29 07:35:43 PM jmeza75 ok
2020-10-29 07:35:49 PM cchase :D
2020-10-29 07:36:00 PM cchase you and me dear - you and me
2020-10-29 07:36:08 PM tamirudd or add bacon to it lol
2020-10-29 07:36:11 PM shedenaalexander enter the chat room
2020-10-29 07:36:19 PM jford124 then you compromise, can we sit outside under the cover and watch the rain
2020-10-29 07:36:40 PM juliecormier so sun-downing is from Alz and demintia?
2020-10-29 07:36:57 PM tamirudd it is a symptom right
2020-10-29 07:37:06 PM melveniag wow that is hard
2020-10-29 07:37:13 PM fillmorepam8 yes i would say a symtom
2020-10-29 07:37:28 PM cchase sun downing is one of those alz symptoms
2020-10-29 07:37:43 PM juliecormier our residents were wild n- out yesterday - ok alz symptom
2020-10-29 07:38:21 PM shedenaalexander Do you think the full moon theory is true
2020-10-29 07:38:27 PM jford124 yes
2020-10-29 07:38:31 PM lhalfacre yes
2020-10-29 07:38:34 PM erittenhouse1683 yup
2020-10-29 07:38:36 PM juliecormier It was yesterday

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