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2013-08-08 06:04:37 PM kathyhughes Hello sue Ann
2013-08-08 06:04:55 PM lynnet Do all volunteers over the age of 18 need to have a background check - in CA we do but in NY it seems we don't
2013-08-08 06:04:58 PM sueharrington Hi, How is everyone/
2013-08-08 06:05:08 PM tamela50 i wwould
2013-08-08 06:05:26 PM cwagner58 I have found a therapy dog to visit weekly.... and also have two new volunteers for church services....... that adds to the other 8 volunteers that I have. We are using a local scout troop and church group to help with fall festival and this month's circus day.
2013-08-08 06:05:33 PM frankin we have jr. volunteers 14 & up
2013-08-08 06:05:38 PM kathyhughes They do in NY....all volunteers are treated like employees and need to have background checks if they are unsupervised
2013-08-08 06:05:38 PM sandy55 Here with me. If the volunteer will be long term, then yes.
2013-08-08 06:05:57 PM lynnet Also, a background check in ?CA costs upwards of $80 - who is supposed to pay
2013-08-08 06:06:00 PM cwagner58 We background check everyone..... it is a state policy I think here in Ohio but is also our company policy.
2013-08-08 06:06:07 PM sueharrington I volunteer where i used to work and was wondering the same thing about the back ground check
2013-08-08 06:06:09 PM kathyhughes the volunteer
2013-08-08 06:06:14 PM lynnet volunteers do not want to pay i have discovered (inn CA
2013-08-08 06:06:27 PM kathyhughes I wouldn't either!
2013-08-08 06:06:28 PM frankin we always do a back group ck.
2013-08-08 06:06:39 PM cwagner58 Our company pays for the background checks
2013-08-08 06:06:40 PM lynnet What about if they are supervised at all times - do they still have to get one
2013-08-08 06:06:58 PM kathyhughes Its totally up to your facility and their policies
2013-08-08 06:07:09 PM goonies613 whats considered a "supervised" volunteer--if youre on the premises whenever they are visitng? or physically observing their every action?
2013-08-08 06:07:25 PM kathyhughes I had a policy that stated they would have to have one if they were unsupervised by activities staff
2013-08-08 06:07:29 PM lynnet thank you - that's sort of what I was discovering from working in CA and NY
2013-08-08 06:07:32 PM barbalbert enter the chat room
2013-08-08 06:07:38 PM kathyhughes Hello Barbara
2013-08-08 06:07:43 PM barbalbert hi Kathy and everyone
2013-08-08 06:08:04 PM barbalbert Kathy I have a question for you
2013-08-08 06:08:08 PM sueharrington Oh interesting. So if they think you dont need one they wont ask?
2013-08-08 06:08:09 PM lynnet So really it is up to policy
2013-08-08 06:08:10 PM kathyhughes I consider an unsupervised volunteer as someone who visits residents on their own
2013-08-08 06:08:12 PM cwagner58 We had a bad experience with a volunteer about 5 years ago.... now they all get the background check... no exceptions.
2013-08-08 06:08:22 PM goonies613 better safe than sorry!
2013-08-08 06:08:26 PM kathyhughes ASk away thats why I am here
2013-08-08 06:08:34 PM cwagner58 No one was hurt or harmed but she caused the facility alot of problems
2013-08-08 06:08:39 PM eklemetsen we do in MN, need a backround check over 18 yrs
2013-08-08 06:08:43 PM sueharrington I do think it is smart
2013-08-08 06:09:11 PM lynnet That's interesting - in CA we had a volunteer stay on premesis while the Act Assis went out of the building. Told that volunteer had to have a background check to be left alone with the rresidents
2013-08-08 06:09:14 PM frankin we are non profit home. its hard on our activities. i want sax player but free that said haviong beach party next week.
2013-08-08 06:09:16 PM kathyhughes Whatever you are comfortable with and I would talk to the ADM to make ure
2013-08-08 06:09:38 PM barbalbert I did mepap1 and am finishing mepap2 and am working as activity director and am getting my ceu so will I be provissionary certified
2013-08-08 06:09:57 PM kathyhughes You will need to apply for your ADPC Barbara
2013-08-08 06:10:05 PM frankin thats great
2013-08-08 06:10:08 PM kathyhughes You will need to apply through NCCAP
2013-08-08 06:10:09 PM barbalbert How do I do that?
2013-08-08 06:10:24 PM kathyhughes E-mail me and I will send you some info
2013-08-08 06:10:30 PM barbalbert ok
2013-08-08 06:10:49 PM angel4aml18 Kathy what are your feeling on a pay increase with completion of ADC?
2013-08-08 06:11:02 PM barbalbert I am going to take an English cours at the college I need English 101
2013-08-08 06:11:02 PM kathyhughes you can also go to www.nccap.org and read through their info and download their standards and application
2013-08-08 06:11:07 PM sueharrington Thats my next step, wanna get national cert
2013-08-08 06:11:12 PM lynnet Kathy - how far back can one's volunteer hours go when applying for NCCAP
2013-08-08 06:11:20 PM kathyhughes 5 years
2013-08-08 06:11:22 PM barbalbert thank you
2013-08-08 06:11:40 PM sueharrington left the chat room
2013-08-08 06:11:42 PM lynnet I did tons of volunteer hours in CA but have really no way to retrieve the info as it's been 6 plus years ago now
2013-08-08 06:11:45 PM kathyhughes and Michelle that will get me into trouble! LOL as it did in one face to face class
2013-08-08 06:12:04 PM angel4aml18 oh no!
2013-08-08 06:12:08 PM kathyhughes it depends on the facility....many facilities give a raise when their AD becomes NCCAP certified
2013-08-08 06:12:24 PM barbalbert I will get 3 credits and then another course to get me three then I will be Activity Director Certified?
2013-08-08 06:12:31 PM kathyhughes I got a nasty phone call from their supervisor
2013-08-08 06:12:49 PM kathyhughes You will need to apply Barbara
2013-08-08 06:13:11 PM barbalbert after my mepap2 course is done?
2013-08-08 06:13:17 PM kathyhughes I would have to look over your information, but you don't automatically become certified
2013-08-08 06:13:20 PM sandy55 Not at our facility. They just keep on file.
2013-08-08 06:13:25 PM sueharrington enter the chat room
2013-08-08 06:13:31 PM kathyhughes You can send it to me now if you want
2013-08-08 06:13:52 PM barbalbert send what?
2013-08-08 06:13:52 PM lynnet So Kathy it is impossible to be admitted to NCCAP without COMPLETE documentation for volunteer hours is that right. If so, I want to join very much but may have to settle for just completing the MEPAP 1 AND 2
2013-08-08 06:14:25 PM kathyhughes No there is an ADPC Track that you can use until you have all 5 components
2013-08-08 06:14:35 PM kathyhughes What are the 5 components...anyone????
2013-08-08 06:14:36 PM cwagner58 I thought you could have volunteer hours or work hours....
2013-08-08 06:14:50 PM barbalbert I was interested in Track 4
2013-08-08 06:15:04 PM kathyhughes this is a pop quiz....those that took MEPAP1 should know!
2013-08-08 06:15:10 PM kathyhughes :S
2013-08-08 06:15:16 PM lynnet I think you need both
2013-08-08 06:15:25 PM kathyhughes LOL
2013-08-08 06:15:28 PM kathyhughes yes
2013-08-08 06:15:36 PM sueharrington Do they still take all your other schooling into consideration
2013-08-08 06:15:48 PM barbalbert hours
2013-08-08 06:15:57 PM cwagner58 so you need volunteer hours as well as work hours?
2013-08-08 06:15:58 PM kathyhughes Component #1 is college credits you need at least 12 with an English course
2013-08-08 06:16:16 PM lynnet that's my problem - no concrete documentation and no way to get it from so far bak
2013-08-08 06:16:20 PM goonies613 one component is 900 hrs experience, rivght? (roughly 2 years)
2013-08-08 06:16:21 PM sueharrington ok thats good to know
2013-08-08 06:16:23 PM barbalbert I thought track 4 is 6?
2013-08-08 06:16:26 PM angel4aml18 experience, CEU, MAPAP and national exam
2013-08-08 06:16:28 PM kathyhughes Component #2 is your Experience you need at least 4,000 hours
2013-08-08 06:16:33 PM tamela50 hours
2013-08-08 06:16:34 PM kathyhughes Very good Michelle
2013-08-08 06:16:40 PM lynnet How many years is 4000 hours? lol
2013-08-08 06:16:43 PM tamela50 4000 hours
2013-08-08 06:16:47 PM kathyhughes 2 years full time
2013-08-08 06:16:49 PM sueharrington what if your ceus are kinda old/
2013-08-08 06:16:52 PM frankin left the chat room
2013-08-08 06:16:53 PM frankin enter the chat room
2013-08-08 06:17:09 PM lynnet I have that but the VOLUNTEEER hours are the problem and you need tons of those as well
2013-08-08 06:17:21 PM kathyhughes Continuing Education is component #4 30 click hours withon the past 5 years
2013-08-08 06:17:28 PM tamela50 i didnt see anything about volunteer hours
2013-08-08 06:17:36 PM kathyhughes You don't need volunteer hours
2013-08-08 06:17:48 PM lynnet I must be completely reading the form wrong
2013-08-08 06:17:53 PM kathyhughes you need experience hours
2013-08-08 06:17:54 PM lynnet it is a bit confusing
2013-08-08 06:18:04 PM tamela50 CEUs, college credit and work hours
2013-08-08 06:18:06 PM lynnet so experience hours is work hours
2013-08-08 06:18:09 PM cwagner58 I didn't see volunteer hours on track four anywhere. Your causing a panic attack here. I would have no time to volunteer right now.
2013-08-08 06:18:14 PM kathyhughes MEPAP1 and MEPAP2 are component #5
2013-08-08 06:18:16 PM barbalbert also you need continuing education with ceus 30 in two years
2013-08-08 06:18:24 PM lynnet sorry - i'm confused and
2013-08-08 06:18:28 PM kathyhughes past 5 years
2013-08-08 06:18:40 PM kathyhughes and yes Jeri you just confused everyone!
2013-08-08 06:18:44 PM sueharrington So I think my CEUs are from about seven years ago or longer
2013-08-08 06:18:47 PM lynnet Has anyone read that form? I needed a drink to get through it
2013-08-08 06:18:47 PM goonies613 lol
2013-08-08 06:18:52 PM kathyhughes Pay no attention to Volunteer hours
2013-08-08 06:19:00 PM cwagner58 Got it!!
2013-08-08 06:19:01 PM kathyhughes I wrote it!
2013-08-08 06:19:07 PM lynnet that's wonderful news - NCCAP HERE I COME
2013-08-08 06:19:20 PM kathyhughes And you have to take the National Exam!
2013-08-08 06:19:30 PM kathyhughes Which won't be hard at all
2013-08-08 06:19:31 PM lynnet Sorry Kathy - remember I"M OLD - that's my excuse
2013-08-08 06:19:33 PM tamela50 4000 hours, 30 CEu, and 20 college credit
2013-08-08 06:19:33 PM frankin left the chat room
2013-08-08 06:19:40 PM cwagner58 I think I am good.... not entirely sure about my English credits but I have everything else ready to go once I finish this course.
2013-08-08 06:19:44 PM barbalbert National Exam for what title?
2013-08-08 06:19:56 PM kathyhughes National Exam for ADC or ACC
2013-08-08 06:19:58 PM goonies613 i saw a course at a local college here which is like a prep course for the national exam
2013-08-08 06:20:06 PM goonies613 like a quick review before you take it
2013-08-08 06:20:10 PM melba enter the chat room
2013-08-08 06:20:22 PM kathyhughes I have a study guide for you all if you want it
2013-08-08 06:20:24 PM frankin enter the chat room
2013-08-08 06:20:24 PM lynnet Kathy - is the exam proctered?
2013-08-08 06:20:26 PM kathyhughes Hello Melba
2013-08-08 06:20:27 PM goonies613 yes, please!
2013-08-08 06:20:27 PM jacqueline enter the chat room
2013-08-08 06:20:28 PM barbalbert I think I should be ok for ADCP
2013-08-08 06:20:33 PM melba hello
2013-08-08 06:20:36 PM sueharrington Oh lucky you that your local college offers such a thing
2013-08-08 06:20:39 PM sandy55 Me too Kathy.
2013-08-08 06:20:52 PM cwagner58 I would like the study guide....
2013-08-08 06:20:59 PM barbalbert ADCP is what Im interested in right now help
2013-08-08 06:21:02 PM kathyhughes I will post it on your forums
2013-08-08 06:21:10 PM lynnet Is the exam proctered?
2013-08-08 06:21:11 PM frankin some reason my chat got small i have work on it
2013-08-08 06:21:11 PM cwagner58 TY
2013-08-08 06:21:22 PM tamela50 kathy whats the name of the company that administers the test
2013-08-08 06:21:25 PM sueharrington that would be great
2013-08-08 06:21:26 PM sandy55 How much is the exam?
2013-08-08 06:21:33 PM kathyhughes and once you finish the MEPAP classes you should apply for certification as yuo can take the exam right away
2013-08-08 06:21:39 PM barbalbert ADCP can I just stay as that if I want?
2013-08-08 06:21:53 PM kathyhughes The exam is given through Comira testing and is $90 to take
2013-08-08 06:21:54 PM tamela50 for only 2 years
2013-08-08 06:21:59 PM kathyhughes $90 each time
2013-08-08 06:22:03 PM melba I did what you said kathy about getting the men to participate, it's working, I now have them slowly participating
2013-08-08 06:22:10 PM lynnet So we find a location - then it is proctered
2013-08-08 06:22:14 PM cwagner58 Making sure I pass the first time!!! LOL
2013-08-08 06:22:20 PM kathyhughes Proctered yes
2013-08-08 06:22:26 PM frankin i working nat now
2013-08-08 06:22:43 PM melba whats the chat about
2013-08-08 06:22:48 PM barbalbert I must take that exam after meppap2?
2013-08-08 06:22:50 PM kathyhughes You can have your ADPC for 6 years renewing every 2 years with 30 clock hours of continuing education
2013-08-08 06:22:51 PM frankin i work res ovter 55
2013-08-08 06:22:55 PM kathyhughes Certification
2013-08-08 06:22:56 PM tamela50 NCCAP certification
2013-08-08 06:23:08 PM kathyhughes you can Barbara
2013-08-08 06:23:19 PM kathyhughes They changed the rules this past June
2013-08-08 06:23:32 PM sueharrington So how many CEUs would you need?
2013-08-08 06:23:35 PM barbalbert Can you msend me them please
2013-08-08 06:23:36 PM kathyhughes so that you can take the exam as soon as you apply
2013-08-08 06:23:38 PM frankin my residents try new things
2013-08-08 06:23:42 PM meister77 enter the chat room
2013-08-08 06:23:48 PM lynnet Kathy - do you still have to renew too?? just curious
2013-08-08 06:23:48 PM kathyhughes 30 clock hours
2013-08-08 06:23:57 PM melba so when all is done we have to find a place near us for the final state exam
2013-08-08 06:23:59 PM kathyhughes You renew every two years
2013-08-08 06:24:09 PM meister77 hello
2013-08-08 06:24:11 PM kathyhughes Yes I have to renew a lot!
2013-08-08 06:24:15 PM lynnet lol
2013-08-08 06:24:17 PM kathyhughes Hello Kristina
2013-08-08 06:24:20 PM sueharrington ok
2013-08-08 06:24:26 PM barbalbert what does that cost to renew?
2013-08-08 06:24:42 PM goonies613 i went to a toastmasters meeting last night! (for our practicum). has anyone else gone? im curious. i have to write up a review to post on the forum
2013-08-08 06:24:57 PM melba yes, i enjoyed it
2013-08-08 06:24:57 PM kathyhughes I have to renew my certification, the MEPAP course insturctor fee and pre-approved home study courses
2013-08-08 06:24:59 PM barbalbert Yes and I loved it
2013-08-08 06:25:15 PM kathyhughes I think $55
2013-08-08 06:25:19 PM sueharrington Yes its about speaking in public. Its interesting
2013-08-08 06:25:22 PM lynnet Kathy - as a 'whole' have you seen the positive pay/salary benefits of taking the MEPAP courses and belonging to NCCAP? I mean has pay really gone up
2013-08-08 06:25:48 PM cwagner58 I'm hoping mine will but I really doubt it!
2013-08-08 06:25:51 PM sueharrington Good question
2013-08-08 06:25:55 PM kathyhughes I believe it has as I started at $99 a week in 1977
2013-08-08 06:26:04 PM frankin same her can we do more after this class as adc
2013-08-08 06:26:10 PM melba wow
2013-08-08 06:26:10 PM angel4aml18 luckily times have changed!
2013-08-08 06:26:12 PM lynnet I mean other than just general cost of living money
2013-08-08 06:26:19 PM kathyhughes LO Jeri
2013-08-08 06:26:21 PM melba right on
2013-08-08 06:26:29 PM sueharrington Oh my. How did you survive/
2013-08-08 06:26:33 PM lynnet I've heard comments on both sides
2013-08-08 06:26:46 PM lynnet Some people say yes and others say no
2013-08-08 06:26:47 PM kathyhughes I think it depends on where you are, how big the facility is and if you stick up for yourself
2013-08-08 06:26:55 PM barbalbert So I really don't have to take English 101 do I?
2013-08-08 06:26:55 PM lynnet that's very true!
2013-08-08 06:27:01 PM kathyhughes I believe that we have come a long way
2013-08-08 06:27:02 PM eklemetsen yes!!! I have a heck of a time with tests! I again, used every second of the 2 hours for the mid-term exam!
2013-08-08 06:27:07 PM melba cost of living wasnt as much as it is now
2013-08-08 06:27:21 PM cwagner58 What is the percentage of activity directors that get significant pay raises that come from being certified nationally? Does anyone know.
2013-08-08 06:27:22 PM kathyhughes I don't know Barbara.....have yuo taken anEnglish course?
2013-08-08 06:27:29 PM lynnet I know an AD in NY who just got a raise and makes 60K a year - THIS IS THE TRUTH
2013-08-08 06:27:31 PM melba me to, not a good tester
2013-08-08 06:27:53 PM kathyhughes I don't know Cindy good question
2013-08-08 06:27:54 PM barbalbert I was going to in September
2013-08-08 06:27:55 PM eklemetsen do we take the National Exam at home, or do we have to go somewhere?
2013-08-08 06:27:57 PM cwagner58 I need to move to NY then... .but the cost of living is probably higher too!!
2013-08-08 06:27:59 PM melba wow, thats good wish i could
2013-08-08 06:28:08 PM sueharrington Wow. Thats good. We dont get much in RI
2013-08-08 06:28:19 PM frankin i call the nat. after this class english have 12 cr
2013-08-08 06:28:22 PM lynnet She started at 45K a year 6 years ago
2013-08-08 06:28:35 PM kathyhughes Well 60K in downstate NY is the same as 30K in Syracuse
2013-08-08 06:28:37 PM jacqueline left the chat room
2013-08-08 06:28:54 PM lynnet it's location, location location
2013-08-08 06:28:57 PM kathyhughes and I know in northern NY and rural areas they make less
2013-08-08 06:29:06 PM cwagner58 I read something online for my area that said the starting wage for a director was around 26000 in the area per year.
2013-08-08 06:29:08 PM frankin almost 2 years i got adpc
2013-08-08 06:29:14 PM angel4aml18 I'll take 60k!
2013-08-08 06:29:18 PM lynnet me too
2013-08-08 06:29:19 PM barbalbert Kathy will you send me everything I need to know and do for ADCP?
2013-08-08 06:29:44 PM kathyhughes yes I will barbara....you need to e-mail me and I will send it
2013-08-08 06:29:57 PM lynnet for what we do and the time commited we are grossly underpaid
2013-08-08 06:30:05 PM kathyhughes I know
2013-08-08 06:30:09 PM barbalbert ok thank you will after class
2013-08-08 06:30:15 PM kathyhughes Okay
2013-08-08 06:30:16 PM sueharrington I agree.
2013-08-08 06:30:21 PM barbalbert my work email or personnal
2013-08-08 06:30:21 PM sandy55 Its the satifaction to me.
2013-08-08 06:30:25 PM lynnet it angers me sometimes and then I think about the residents and let it go
2013-08-08 06:30:34 PM kathyhughes But what do we do to let people know the work that we do?
2013-08-08 06:30:45 PM lynnet I wish 'satisfaction' could pay the bills though
2013-08-08 06:30:50 PM melba its that way no matter what job you do
2013-08-08 06:30:51 PM kathyhughes up to you Barbara
2013-08-08 06:30:56 PM sueharrington I wish the same
2013-08-08 06:31:05 PM frankin i am opening i get raise after all done
2013-08-08 06:31:08 PM barbalbert ok work then I can print if have to
2013-08-08 06:31:08 PM kathyhughes At least we have jobs
2013-08-08 06:31:15 PM lynnet And what about all the stuff a lot of us - a majority of us - pay for out of our own pockets to make a program better
2013-08-08 06:31:24 PM barbalbert thank God for that
2013-08-08 06:31:25 PM cwagner58 Most people don't realize the work that goes into something as simple as a lunch outing... that is until they actually help with one.
2013-08-08 06:31:28 PM frankin i so thankful
2013-08-08 06:31:29 PM melba thankful for the jobn
2013-08-08 06:31:30 PM sandy55 Thats true.
2013-08-08 06:31:35 PM kathyhughes and perhaps we should let people know about that
2013-08-08 06:31:45 PM sueharrington Yes like this class, out of my pocket
2013-08-08 06:31:45 PM lynnet cwagner you are right on
2013-08-08 06:31:45 PM sandy55 But how?
2013-08-08 06:32:05 PM melba where do we start
2013-08-08 06:32:11 PM kathyhughes start letting people know through Twitter, LinkedIn, Faceboook
2013-08-08 06:32:38 PM lynnet I've had many families voice their pleasure for what we do and say they had no idea
2013-08-08 06:32:42 PM kathyhughes I think we should write a letter to Ellen and let her know that we pay out of pocket for things that residents want
2013-08-08 06:32:53 PM goonies613 lol
2013-08-08 06:32:54 PM barbalbert yes we do
2013-08-08 06:32:54 PM melba good idea, im going to start putting it out there tommrow
2013-08-08 06:33:10 PM barbalbert post our certifications too
2013-08-08 06:33:11 PM kathyhughes and notify families that their loved one needs these things
2013-08-08 06:33:40 PM kathyhughes sometimes when we say no then someone else needs to pick up the slack
2013-08-08 06:33:42 PM lynnet When families have said how much they appreciate me I've asked them to tell my ED - and THEY HAVE!!!!
2013-08-08 06:33:47 PM frankin i have get proved by s.s.
2013-08-08 06:34:00 PM sandy55 Same here.
2013-08-08 06:34:01 PM sueharrington Well I have all this education I already had when I started at the facility I am at, and still get not much. But Im just an aid anyway
2013-08-08 06:34:08 PM melba i've been asking familiy members for a lot of things, but some times i get the feeling they believe we should provide everything.
2013-08-08 06:34:19 PM lynnet I even take pics of events and email them straight to my ED
2013-08-08 06:34:26 PM kathyhughes I would get requests from staff that a resident needed some clothing...I would call the families in front of them
2013-08-08 06:34:27 PM barbalbert we are not rich
2013-08-08 06:34:27 PM lynnet Many compliments from her
2013-08-08 06:34:38 PM kathyhughes if that didn't work I would order it
2013-08-08 06:34:53 PM cwagner58 Some people in general have a sense of entitlement... but others are very understanding and willing to get their loved ones what they need.
2013-08-08 06:34:54 PM sandy55 My pics goes to the facility web site.
2013-08-08 06:34:58 PM lynnet I've gone and BOUGHT SHOES for 2 residents!!!!!
2013-08-08 06:35:04 PM kathyhughes Staff got upset because I was spending toom much of the residents money
2013-08-08 06:35:04 PM barbalbert Im going to use my resources more to order items
2013-08-08 06:35:08 PM cwagner58 That's our society these days.
2013-08-08 06:35:23 PM frankin i like more residents they pvd pay
2013-08-08 06:35:24 PM kathyhughes So I empowered the staff and they didn't like having to go shopping on their time
2013-08-08 06:35:27 PM melba if it wasnt for the family membeers that do help, by budget wouldnt cover us each month.
2013-08-08 06:35:34 PM lynnet It's a shame but Kathy is right - we have to start somewhere tooting our own horns
2013-08-08 06:35:47 PM kathyhughes We have to take credit for what we do
2013-08-08 06:35:52 PM kathyhughes and let everyone know
2013-08-08 06:35:53 PM lynnet RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2013-08-08 06:35:54 PM sueharrington Its really tough to get families to donate things for their loved ones. Especially adult day services
2013-08-08 06:36:03 PM frankin do es anybody get help families
2013-08-08 06:36:11 PM goonies613 my families are not involved
2013-08-08 06:36:16 PM goonies613 its such a shame
2013-08-08 06:36:20 PM kathyhughes that happens
2013-08-08 06:36:26 PM goonies613 most have legal appointed guardians
2013-08-08 06:36:26 PM sueharrington That is sad
2013-08-08 06:36:32 PM lynnet wow
2013-08-08 06:36:42 PM kathyhughes we suck all responsiblity from them when they come though our doors for the first time
2013-08-08 06:36:44 PM cwagner58 Some families are very involved... some not at all.
2013-08-08 06:36:56 PM sueharrington That makes me feel like crying
2013-08-08 06:36:58 PM kathyhughes so its time to make them responsible
2013-08-08 06:37:07 PM barbalbert yes it is
2013-08-08 06:37:07 PM tamela50 I'm lucky to live in a small town and have great family involvement
2013-08-08 06:37:09 PM kathyhughes don't its been going on for decades
2013-08-08 06:37:16 PM lynnet I'm close to Manhattan - total luxury - these resident are for the most part "Donald Trump rich'
2013-08-08 06:37:16 PM melba listen to this idea i had as an arts and crafts. i bought toilet plungers and we are going to decorate them with hooks to hang jewelry, and small bird houses, make skirts for the bottoms, lace and ribbons, i cant wait until friday
2013-08-08 06:37:29 PM sueharrington My facility has wonderful families too
2013-08-08 06:37:41 PM kathyhughes I argued with a family about a resident buying a slip
2013-08-08 06:37:58 PM kathyhughes I asked them if they wore the same underwear for 6 months
2013-08-08 06:37:59 PM sueharrington Cudte idea
2013-08-08 06:38:02 PM barbalbert wow
2013-08-08 06:38:04 PM angel4aml18 hahaha
2013-08-08 06:38:07 PM tamela50 lol
2013-08-08 06:38:07 PM lynnet One residents owns 5 buildings on the upper west side and said did I want one! Too bad she has late stage dementia
2013-08-08 06:38:16 PM kathyhughes LOl
2013-08-08 06:38:18 PM angel4aml18 yeah some residents have a pair of underwear for each day of the week and thats it
2013-08-08 06:38:37 PM kathyhughes She should donate it to us...for a facility just for Activity Professionals
2013-08-08 06:38:38 PM sueharrington Oh my goodness.
2013-08-08 06:38:44 PM lynnet YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2013-08-08 06:38:54 PM tamela50 i had one resident whose bras where in pieces and she still wanted to wear them
2013-08-08 06:38:56 PM kathyhughes No Bingo!
2013-08-08 06:39:04 PM frankin i have great families but home need spend more onthe residents
2013-08-08 06:39:10 PM goonies613 or we have the family member who is NEVER involved and then obviously feels guilty about it so then when he / she comes in once a year, has all these complaints and makes staff life a living hell
2013-08-08 06:39:12 PM barbalbert what do you mean no bingo

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