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2018-11-07 07:25:27 PM smccormick I had no idea
2018-11-07 07:25:40 PM tcrute13 I have seen where it affects chewing
2018-11-07 07:25:40 PM dustylann why do they not start testing people at an early age for this?
2018-11-07 07:25:43 PM schweitzerkl very very sad :(
2018-11-07 07:25:46 PM alexisl yes it's very sad
2018-11-07 07:25:47 PM cchase our world or moreso our ability to be in our world gets smaller and smaller
2018-11-07 07:25:49 PM angelagalloway it is a very debilitating disease, heartbreaking
2018-11-07 07:26:09 PM cchase testing earlier does not change the course of the disease
2018-11-07 07:26:10 PM tcrute13 It can be very heartbreaking
2018-11-07 07:26:13 PM smccormick Someone on their own would not be able to function. that is so sad
2018-11-07 07:26:27 PM tjoned its a very sad thing to watch as they decline
2018-11-07 07:26:27 PM cchase so let's talk memory... ready??
2018-11-07 07:26:28 PM alexisl no they wouldn't
2018-11-07 07:26:29 PM tcrute13 They say its medication they can give you to slow it dowbn
2018-11-07 07:26:33 PM lmiller3 it's sad as you see them decline
2018-11-07 07:26:34 PM tonjarobles yes
2018-11-07 07:26:35 PM smccormick ready
2018-11-07 07:26:35 PM tcrute13 Ready
2018-11-07 07:26:35 PM alexisl ready
2018-11-07 07:26:36 PM tjoned readt
2018-11-07 07:26:39 PM schweitzerkl ready
2018-11-07 07:26:39 PM tjoned y
2018-11-07 07:26:41 PM dustylann you can start treatmeant earlier, right?
2018-11-07 07:26:43 PM tjoned ready
2018-11-07 07:26:52 PM cchase no treatment for this disease
2018-11-07 07:26:59 PM alexisl wowwww
2018-11-07 07:27:07 PM lmiller3 it's hard on the caregivers too
2018-11-07 07:27:08 PM tcrute13 Honestly sometimes when people figure out the reason its too late RIGHT?
2018-11-07 07:27:17 PM cchase so memory is like this -
2018-11-07 07:27:31 PM lmiller3 they don't understand what's happening and it's frustrating...on with memory
2018-11-07 07:27:33 PM schweitzerkl i was a caregiver not to long ago, it most def. is hard
2018-11-07 07:27:36 PM cchase think of a word file you just typed on your computer
2018-11-07 07:27:49 PM smccormick ok
2018-11-07 07:27:54 PM cchase you give it a name then save it to a folder..right
2018-11-07 07:27:59 PM schweitzerkl right
2018-11-07 07:28:02 PM smccormick yes
2018-11-07 07:28:03 PM tjoned correct
2018-11-07 07:28:03 PM tcrute13 RIght
2018-11-07 07:28:06 PM alexisl you can never get it back or reverse it right
2018-11-07 07:28:08 PM cchase later you want to look at it again
2018-11-07 07:28:17 PM cchase so you call up that file by name
2018-11-07 07:28:36 PM cchase and your computer goes to where it was stored to bring it up.right
2018-11-07 07:28:37 PM smccormick yes
2018-11-07 07:28:38 PM tcrute13 yes
2018-11-07 07:28:40 PM trinawh but the file has been labeled something else
2018-11-07 07:28:43 PM tonjarobles yes
2018-11-07 07:28:44 PM schweitzerkl yes
2018-11-07 07:28:46 PM lauravillatoro1989 yes
2018-11-07 07:28:49 PM tjoned yes
2018-11-07 07:28:58 PM alexisl yes
2018-11-07 07:29:11 PM cchase all that stuff going on in the brain blocks the pathway to where the memory is filed in the brain
2018-11-07 07:29:22 PM alexisl ok
2018-11-07 07:29:22 PM trinawh oh i see
2018-11-07 07:29:26 PM labara so you dont ever find the file
2018-11-07 07:29:30 PM cchase it cannot be found!!!
2018-11-07 07:29:35 PM alexisl right
2018-11-07 07:29:37 PM schweitzerkl interesting
2018-11-07 07:29:38 PM tjoned got it
2018-11-07 07:29:43 PM smccormick wow so they will never remember that took place
2018-11-07 07:29:44 PM tcrute13 LIke it never existed
2018-11-07 07:29:54 PM cchase well - there is long term meory and short term memory andyone hear of those?
2018-11-07 07:30:01 PM labara but why do alz paients remember certain things
2018-11-07 07:30:02 PM tonjarobles yes
2018-11-07 07:30:02 PM smccormick yes
2018-11-07 07:30:02 PM dustylann ya
2018-11-07 07:30:03 PM angelagalloway yes
2018-11-07 07:30:05 PM lauravillatoro1989 yes
2018-11-07 07:30:06 PM tjoned yes
2018-11-07 07:30:08 PM tcrute13 yes
2018-11-07 07:30:20 PM tonjarobles they cant remember short term
2018-11-07 07:30:21 PM labara different lobes of the brain?
2018-11-07 07:30:28 PM cchase long term memory are those memories that were formed before the disease onset
2018-11-07 07:30:30 PM angelagalloway their short term memory is the most affected?
2018-11-07 07:30:30 PM alexisl yes
2018-11-07 07:30:34 PM tjoned i go through that even now
2018-11-07 07:30:44 PM cchase which is why they remember childhood stuff ..right?
2018-11-07 07:30:49 PM lauravillatoro1989 yes
2018-11-07 07:30:50 PM tonjarobles yes
2018-11-07 07:30:53 PM labara makes sense
2018-11-07 07:30:54 PM angelagalloway yes
2018-11-07 07:30:58 PM tjoned ok
2018-11-07 07:30:59 PM tcrute13 I don't remember much from my childhood
2018-11-07 07:31:00 PM alexisl oh wow didn't know that
2018-11-07 07:31:06 PM cchase they remember it like yesterday in fact
2018-11-07 07:31:11 PM cchase they remember the songs
2018-11-07 07:31:11 PM alexisl right
2018-11-07 07:31:13 PM tcrute13 I'm not claiming ith though
2018-11-07 07:31:15 PM smccormick can they still remember the things that took place before the diease
2018-11-07 07:31:19 PM tjoned so thats the hard drive
2018-11-07 07:31:27 PM alexisl oookkk
2018-11-07 07:31:30 PM labara alot of alz patients i work with, speak as if their parents are still alive.
2018-11-07 07:31:38 PM labara with them being 80-90 years of age
2018-11-07 07:31:38 PM cchase now we will talk short term memory
2018-11-07 07:31:41 PM alexisl yes they do
2018-11-07 07:31:44 PM tcrute13 Mine too
2018-11-07 07:31:51 PM tjoned mines too
2018-11-07 07:31:58 PM cchase the blocks got so bad that no new memory can be saved
2018-11-07 07:32:07 PM alexisl wow
2018-11-07 07:32:13 PM tjoned i see
2018-11-07 07:32:14 PM cchase two minutes later - they cannot remmeber
2018-11-07 07:32:18 PM smccormick I understand
2018-11-07 07:32:23 PM lmiller3 that's why you have the same conversation over and over
2018-11-07 07:32:28 PM dustylann yes
2018-11-07 07:32:29 PM cchase it was never saved to be found
2018-11-07 07:32:33 PM alexisl ok now i get it
2018-11-07 07:32:37 PM smccormick makes sense
2018-11-07 07:32:42 PM lmiller3 and have to introduce yourself everyday
2018-11-07 07:32:42 PM schweitzerkl makes sense
2018-11-07 07:32:44 PM tcrute13 Yes I think most of our patients are short term memory.
2018-11-07 07:32:52 PM tjoned making plenty of sense
2018-11-07 07:33:07 PM cchase this is how I want you to learn about it
2018-11-07 07:33:13 PM alexisl ok
2018-11-07 07:33:21 PM schweitzerkl ready to learn
2018-11-07 07:33:27 PM cchase then you can make better sense of why they are failing memories
2018-11-07 07:33:32 PM tcrute13 Therapy department have come up with cognition stickers that are place above the patients head of bed so that we would know what stage of dementia they are in
2018-11-07 07:33:32 PM smccormick i get it now and it makes complete sense
2018-11-07 07:33:58 PM cchase they lose the ability to amuse themselves because that would require memory
2018-11-07 07:33:59 PM tjoned im learning alot
2018-11-07 07:34:05 PM cchase which they no longer have
2018-11-07 07:34:17 PM cchase if you don't remember what you like to do
2018-11-07 07:34:26 PM cchase how can you do something you like??
2018-11-07 07:34:27 PM alexisl i'm loving learning this
2018-11-07 07:34:45 PM lauravillatoro1989 makes total sense
2018-11-07 07:34:45 PM schweitzerkl it would make life so hard!
2018-11-07 07:34:55 PM cchase eventually even the long term memory cannot be recalled
2018-11-07 07:34:56 PM alexisl it does
2018-11-07 07:35:04 PM smccormick it must be difficult and fustrating
2018-11-07 07:35:11 PM cchase just imagine
2018-11-07 07:35:18 PM schweitzerkl i cant
2018-11-07 07:35:22 PM cchase for a little bit how that would be
2018-11-07 07:35:32 PM alexisl me either
2018-11-07 07:35:33 PM tonjarobles it would be awful
2018-11-07 07:35:36 PM tjoned is this why they are so frustrated
2018-11-07 07:35:47 PM tcrute13 veggie stage
2018-11-07 07:35:49 PM cchase so try to think of this if you ever feel a bit of fustration
2018-11-07 07:35:51 PM smccormick very hard on loved ones
2018-11-07 07:35:58 PM schweitzerkl i would say thats why. I know it would make me frustrated
2018-11-07 07:36:01 PM angelagalloway We have a new training module that will allow us to see what is like for a dementia/Alz patient - I'm looking forward to trying it.
2018-11-07 07:36:07 PM tonjarobles everyone should be reminded of this
2018-11-07 07:36:16 PM cchase yup and that is why you have behavior issues
2018-11-07 07:36:24 PM alexisl yes they should
2018-11-07 07:36:30 PM tcrute13 yes
2018-11-07 07:36:32 PM trinawh left the chat room
2018-11-07 07:36:32 PM trinawh enter the chat room
2018-11-07 07:36:34 PM smccormick yes i agree
2018-11-07 07:36:34 PM tonjarobles angela that would be very interesting
2018-11-07 07:36:34 PM schweitzerkl i think anyone working with ALZ. should have a training module
2018-11-07 07:36:43 PM cchase there is a training called VDT - virtual dementia tour
2018-11-07 07:36:46 PM angelagalloway I have to remind myself daily when I am being cussed or hit that they don't know what they are doing. It breaks my heart.
2018-11-07 07:36:47 PM trinawh sorry lost internet connection
2018-11-07 07:36:49 PM tjoned yes i would be angry and upset
2018-11-07 07:36:51 PM cchase look it up on utube
2018-11-07 07:36:59 PM smccormick good to kniow
2018-11-07 07:37:07 PM cchase you will see how it works - very good thing to check out
2018-11-07 07:37:13 PM lmiller3 there was a good video we had to watch when getting trained on Memories in the making.
2018-11-07 07:37:15 PM alexisl i will make sure i look that up
2018-11-07 07:37:15 PM schweitzerkl will do that. possibly have an inservice with staff
2018-11-07 07:37:16 PM angelagalloway I think that is what we was told about today at our class. The VDT.
2018-11-07 07:37:20 PM cchase no worries - welcome back
2018-11-07 07:37:24 PM tjoned will do
2018-11-07 07:37:26 PM trinawh i'll do that for sure
2018-11-07 07:37:36 PM tonjarobles will do that for sure
2018-11-07 07:37:39 PM trinawh will give me good insight into my residents
2018-11-07 07:37:46 PM cchase so imagine not knowing how to say that your hungry
2018-11-07 07:37:51 PM alexisl can you guys see my text
2018-11-07 07:37:53 PM labara willl mention for all employees, and a good video to show during new hire
2018-11-07 07:37:57 PM trinawh like being a small child again
2018-11-07 07:38:01 PM smccormick thank you for breaking it down i have a better understanding of what they experience on a daily basis
2018-11-07 07:38:02 PM labara some people come from no expierence
2018-11-07 07:38:02 PM cchase yes alexis we can see
2018-11-07 07:38:11 PM alexisl ok thanks
2018-11-07 07:38:27 PM cchase yes.... absolutely look at theat VDY
2018-11-07 07:38:30 PM tcrute13 Yes a lot of mine when they have behaviors they are either hungry or wet they are not able to communicate much
2018-11-07 07:38:31 PM cchase VDT
2018-11-07 07:38:44 PM cchase ready for more??
2018-11-07 07:38:48 PM tonjarobles yes
2018-11-07 07:38:49 PM alexisl yesssss
2018-11-07 07:38:49 PM lmiller3 yuppers
2018-11-07 07:38:51 PM smccormick yes
2018-11-07 07:38:52 PM angelagalloway yes
2018-11-07 07:38:53 PM schweitzerkl yes
2018-11-07 07:38:55 PM tjoned mines have issues eating
2018-11-07 07:38:57 PM lauravillatoro1989 ready
2018-11-07 07:39:10 PM cchase okay so last but most important
2018-11-07 07:39:36 PM tjoned ready
2018-11-07 07:39:41 PM tcrute13 Ready
2018-11-07 07:39:42 PM smccormick ready
2018-11-07 07:39:47 PM alexisl ready
2018-11-07 07:39:47 PM cchase the last part of the brain
2018-11-07 07:40:01 PM cchase affected by those nasty plaques and tanlges
2018-11-07 07:40:08 PM cchase is the area holding emotions
2018-11-07 07:40:47 PM cchase hippocampus
2018-11-07 07:40:48 PM alexisl which is why they cry sometimes right???
2018-11-07 07:40:55 PM trinawh so that's why they can't control their emotions
2018-11-07 07:41:00 PM schweitzerkl right
2018-11-07 07:41:07 PM cchase what happens is that area still holds emotions
2018-11-07 07:41:18 PM smccormick what type?
2018-11-07 07:41:22 PM cchase but the rest of the brain does not know how to translate emotions
2018-11-07 07:41:32 PM tjoned oh ok
2018-11-07 07:41:33 PM lauravillatoro1989 i work with a resident who goes from laughing to crying in less then a min. it happens very often.
2018-11-07 07:41:38 PM cchase so - they are angry but do not know why
2018-11-07 07:41:43 PM schweitzerkl me too laura
2018-11-07 07:41:47 PM cchase they are sad and do not know why
2018-11-07 07:41:51 PM alexisl this is so sad
2018-11-07 07:41:55 PM labara thats very sad
2018-11-07 07:41:56 PM tcrute13 That's why the fight
2018-11-07 07:41:57 PM cchase they just FEEL
2018-11-07 07:41:59 PM schweitzerkl very sad
2018-11-07 07:42:02 PM smccormick they do become combative or high anxiety
2018-11-07 07:42:06 PM cchase yup that can be why they fight
2018-11-07 07:42:15 PM cchase yes anxiety is huge
2018-11-07 07:42:21 PM dustylann sad
2018-11-07 07:42:22 PM alexisl very
2018-11-07 07:42:30 PM labara is there any way to direct them into a non violent attitdue
2018-11-07 07:42:34 PM cchase they do not have the ability to rationalize
2018-11-07 07:42:38 PM cchase their emotions
2018-11-07 07:42:40 PM trinawh eventually they can no speak, correct
2018-11-07 07:42:44 PM labara okay that makes sense then
2018-11-07 07:42:48 PM dustylann yes
2018-11-07 07:42:53 PM labara no matter what you try, it may never work
2018-11-07 07:42:59 PM cchase so yu can use that information
2018-11-07 07:43:05 PM cchase anyone know how
2018-11-07 07:43:07 PM tjoned i get it
2018-11-07 07:43:07 PM schweitzerkl very good info
2018-11-07 07:43:28 PM smccormick to determine their need at the moment 3
2018-11-07 07:43:50 PM lmiller3 learn what brings a positive emotion...sound, smell, and use it with them.
2018-11-07 07:43:55 PM tjoned to determinehow to help them at that moment
2018-11-07 07:44:03 PM cchase a happy resident is a easy resident to care for
2018-11-07 07:44:04 PM alexisl now i know what my grandmother went through fully i love the way you explained this
2018-11-07 07:44:17 PM cchase when you smile - what do they do?
2018-11-07 07:44:30 PM angelagalloway They smile!
2018-11-07 07:44:32 PM tonjarobles smile back
2018-11-07 07:44:33 PM dustylann smile
2018-11-07 07:44:33 PM cchase ty alexis
2018-11-07 07:44:35 PM schweitzerkl smile
2018-11-07 07:44:36 PM cchase yup
2018-11-07 07:44:39 PM cchase they smile
2018-11-07 07:44:40 PM smccormick patience is a virture
2018-11-07 07:44:43 PM alexisl very welcome
2018-11-07 07:44:46 PM tcrute13 They sometimes ask what is funny
2018-11-07 07:44:55 PM cchase use that
2018-11-07 07:45:05 PM alexisl sometimes laugh and then cry
2018-11-07 07:45:06 PM tcrute13 Then I make up something or say because you are beautiful.
2018-11-07 07:45:12 PM schweitzerkl i makes my day when i see a resident smile
2018-11-07 07:45:13 PM tcrute13 Just think of something
2018-11-07 07:45:16 PM lauravillatoro1989 i normally start singing to her. it helps her relax. at times she will start singing along with me.
2018-11-07 07:45:18 PM cchase you need to hang your issues from home at the door and walk in the unit
2018-11-07 07:45:20 PM cchase with a smile
2018-11-07 07:45:33 PM tcrute13 Yes
2018-11-07 07:45:35 PM tonjarobles absolutely
2018-11-07 07:45:39 PM tjoned thanks for this information
2018-11-07 07:45:40 PM alexisl yes
2018-11-07 07:45:42 PM cchase they will feel what you feel
2018-11-07 07:45:45 PM smccormick absolutely
2018-11-07 07:45:50 PM schweitzerkl knowing that i or we are the ones who put the smile on their face
2018-11-07 07:45:52 PM angelagalloway I typically walk in the door and wink at the men and smile at the ladies and it sets the tone for the day. I get smiles and winks back.
2018-11-07 07:45:53 PM trinawh yes they feel what we feel
2018-11-07 07:45:56 PM alexisl exactly
2018-11-07 07:46:01 PM cchase you get angry - guess what folks?
2018-11-07 07:46:08 PM schweitzerkl they get angry
2018-11-07 07:46:09 PM smccormick they do
2018-11-07 07:46:10 PM tcrute13 They get angry
2018-11-07 07:46:10 PM alexisl they do to
2018-11-07 07:46:11 PM lmiller3 they feed off our energy
2018-11-07 07:46:11 PM tjoned they get angry
2018-11-07 07:46:15 PM lauravillatoro1989 yup
2018-11-07 07:46:19 PM cchase they rely on what they have left - their emotions
2018-11-07 07:46:21 PM labara such a crazy concept
2018-11-07 07:46:26 PM cchase to muddle through
2018-11-07 07:46:27 PM trinawh i hug the ladies and pat the men's shoulder
2018-11-07 07:46:41 PM trinawh my ease puts them at ease
2018-11-07 07:46:44 PM angelagalloway Exactly - our body language and facial expressions tell it all to our residents. They see our emotions and think they have caused it and then a downward spiral starts.
2018-11-07 07:46:47 PM cchase another key for you all - ready?
2018-11-07 07:46:51 PM schweitzerkl ready
2018-11-07 07:46:53 PM alexisl ready
2018-11-07 07:46:55 PM smccormick ready
2018-11-07 07:46:55 PM tonjarobles yes
2018-11-07 07:46:55 PM dustylann ya
2018-11-07 07:46:56 PM tcrute13 Sometimes I see staff get agressive with the residents when I come along I approach in a calming manner and it calms them right down
2018-11-07 07:47:00 PM trinawh yes just like children
2018-11-07 07:47:10 PM alexisl yes
2018-11-07 07:47:13 PM cchase look at the skills they still have
2018-11-07 07:47:27 PM tjoned yes they are like children
2018-11-07 07:47:28 PM cchase use that to help you deliver the best actvity
2018-11-07 07:47:30 PM trinawh kids and alz patients mirror what they see in us
2018-11-07 07:47:37 PM cchase if they still can sing
2018-11-07 07:47:39 PM cchase use that
2018-11-07 07:47:42 PM alexisl ok
2018-11-07 07:47:47 PM tjoned ok
2018-11-07 07:47:49 PM cchase if they still can fold - use that
2018-11-07 07:47:54 PM smccormick yes
2018-11-07 07:47:56 PM lauravillatoro1989 yes!
2018-11-07 07:48:01 PM cchase look at what they still have - always
2018-11-07 07:48:04 PM schweitzerkl i have some ladies that love to fold
2018-11-07 07:48:11 PM tcrute13 We have one who can sing her butt off one minute and then she just turns into a different person
2018-11-07 07:48:15 PM trinawh some of mine make jewelry but from day to day they forget they made some the day before
2018-11-07 07:48:16 PM cchase you will have so so much more success
2018-11-07 07:48:26 PM smccormick i agree
2018-11-07 07:48:27 PM labara we have "grocery" shop set up for a lady with alz who wonders into other peoples rooms throughout the day and night
2018-11-07 07:48:29 PM labara works well
2018-11-07 07:48:29 PM lmiller3 i played some music today and their eyes lit up and some started "dancing" in their chairs.
2018-11-07 07:48:34 PM alexisl i was told that today if they can fold let them i agreed
2018-11-07 07:48:38 PM labara empty boxes from home bring them in and set up tables
2018-11-07 07:48:41 PM cchase yes - sort of jekel and hide
2018-11-07 07:48:45 PM tjoned i have a few cleaners and organizers so when my office is a mess they are my biggest helpers
2018-11-07 07:49:02 PM cchase they traverse from emotion to emotions all too quickly at time
2018-11-07 07:49:11 PM cchase now about food
2018-11-07 07:49:18 PM smccormick ok
2018-11-07 07:49:24 PM angelagalloway I have a lady who separates beads everyday by color for me. It makes her feel useful.
2018-11-07 07:49:27 PM alexisl cool i bet they love that tjoined
2018-11-07 07:49:27 PM cchase redirect bad behavior by using food
2018-11-07 07:49:34 PM angelagalloway They need to know they are still a person.
2018-11-07 07:49:44 PM tcrute13 Yes or drinks
2018-11-07 07:49:44 PM alexisl yes they do
2018-11-07 07:49:47 PM smccormick what kind of foods
2018-11-07 07:49:51 PM cchase if they are doing something that is destructive ask them to help you make a sandwich
2018-11-07 07:49:58 PM tjoned i use food in alot of my activities
2018-11-07 07:50:01 PM cchase what ever food is their favorite
2018-11-07 07:50:12 PM cchase you are redirecting the behavior
2018-11-07 07:50:17 PM smccormick ok great idea
2018-11-07 07:50:17 PM tjoned i even have a cooking corner once a month
2018-11-07 07:50:18 PM trinawh that is so true! our rehab dept "bribe" them with food to get them to do their excercises
2018-11-07 07:50:21 PM trinawh it works
2018-11-07 07:50:25 PM cchase by using something else they want more
2018-11-07 07:50:49 PM cchase yup a sort of bribe - but I didn't put it that way lol
2018-11-07 07:50:52 PM smccormick good information
2018-11-07 07:50:52 PM angelagalloway We make cookies every Saturday to sell to our staff. We bank the money and then we go shopping in our "store".
2018-11-07 07:50:57 PM alexisl lol
2018-11-07 07:51:01 PM smccormick lol
2018-11-07 07:51:09 PM trinawh our rehab girl used the word bribe lol
2018-11-07 07:51:13 PM cchase it is called redirection
2018-11-07 07:51:17 PM alexisl good ideas
2018-11-07 07:51:19 PM lmiller3 fascinating about the food.
2018-11-07 07:51:22 PM cchase also one last little bit
2018-11-07 07:51:29 PM tjoned redirection sounds much better
2018-11-07 07:51:36 PM cchase avoid the truth if it is not helpful
2018-11-07 07:51:44 PM cchase for example
2018-11-07 07:52:00 PM angelagalloway Yes - dont argue with them, agree!

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