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2014-03-26 06:23:59 PM lindayoung1964 oh
2014-03-26 06:24:06 PM cchase I am your class moderator
2014-03-26 06:24:21 PM nansullivan Thanks Elizabeth. I will be sending you an email.
2014-03-26 06:24:22 PM cchase not a student - was
2014-03-26 06:24:23 PM elizabethwoosley Yes. you mentioned you were putting something togetehr
2014-03-26 06:24:47 PM cchase yes - I am putting a class together for MEPAP
2014-03-26 06:25:01 PM elizabethwoosley Oh!
2014-03-26 06:25:01 PM tubbsretricia Why do people work with dementia that do not have patient
2014-03-26 06:25:18 PM lindayoung1964 So it will be on this website?
2014-03-26 06:25:21 PM cchase I wrote one for Adult Day
2014-03-26 06:25:26 PM nansullivan I think people underestimate how hard working with dementia patients can be.
2014-03-26 06:25:27 PM tubbsretricia that is good cchase
2014-03-26 06:25:29 PM cchase yes
2014-03-26 06:25:41 PM lindayoung1964 ok will watch for iit
2014-03-26 06:25:44 PM dbrewer Its very hard
2014-03-26 06:25:46 PM cchase good
2014-03-26 06:25:58 PM nansullivan Every day is exhausting emotionally.
2014-03-26 06:26:02 PM tinajg to many times at my facility they want to remove the resident instead of educating staff
2014-03-26 06:26:10 PM tubbsretricia yes exhausting
2014-03-26 06:26:19 PM lindayoung1964 Not good that would make it worse
2014-03-26 06:26:19 PM cchase I certify my staff in Alzheimer
2014-03-26 06:26:24 PM nansullivan Our facility 100% of the staff has been through dementia training.
2014-03-26 06:26:33 PM tinajg excellent
2014-03-26 06:26:42 PM cchase It is typically a three day course
2014-03-26 06:26:48 PM elizabethwoosley Ours too. But it's never really enough
2014-03-26 06:26:49 PM scleyhan i wish that could happen in my building!
2014-03-26 06:26:51 PM skharma I work at a hospital and we have received phone calls from the family saying they dont know what to do and are scared for thier saftey. very sad
2014-03-26 06:26:53 PM lindayoung1964 we get no training only i asume in CNA class
2014-03-26 06:27:04 PM tinajg smh
2014-03-26 06:27:17 PM nansullivan Still we frequently have to remind eachother and support eachother in how to handle different situations.
2014-03-26 06:27:30 PM tinajg good point
2014-03-26 06:27:39 PM cchase family support groups are so important
2014-03-26 06:27:48 PM elizabethwoosley cchase, this 3 day class is part of the circirulum for MEPAP 2?
2014-03-26 06:27:51 PM cchase I hold a weekly support group
2014-03-26 06:27:56 PM tinajg can you imagine the stress the resident must feel
2014-03-26 06:28:02 PM nansullivan Absolutely, support groups are so necessary for the family.
2014-03-26 06:28:15 PM cchase no - the three day course is what my staff does for training
2014-03-26 06:28:18 PM cchase at work
2014-03-26 06:28:27 PM tinajg interesting
2014-03-26 06:28:33 PM nansullivan If it is anything like Still Alice, then it must be very frightening at times.
2014-03-26 06:28:33 PM scleyhan we don't have anything more than a few minutes during staff meetings
2014-03-26 06:28:34 PM cchase each quarter we update
2014-03-26 06:28:40 PM tubbsretricia very interesting
2014-03-26 06:28:45 PM scleyhan maybe an hour here and there
2014-03-26 06:28:51 PM elizabethwoosley Oh, I'm sorry!
2014-03-26 06:28:55 PM lindayoung1964 wonder how i could get our facility to do that
2014-03-26 06:28:57 PM cchase VDT - virtual dementia tour
2014-03-26 06:28:59 PM tubbsretricia i want to learn more
2014-03-26 06:29:01 PM nansullivan We all went through 16 hours of training and updates annually.
2014-03-26 06:29:08 PM cchase you folks should check that out
2014-03-26 06:29:11 PM elizabethwoosley That is fabulous the staff gets that kind of training
2014-03-26 06:29:15 PM scleyhan i'll have to look into that
2014-03-26 06:29:23 PM tinajg i will also
2014-03-26 06:29:24 PM lindayoung1964 we have an annual inservice but noting ondementia
2014-03-26 06:29:24 PM elizabethwoosley I will too
2014-03-26 06:29:26 PM nansullivan I count my blessings that we are so forward thinking.
2014-03-26 06:29:26 PM tubbsretricia i want to check it out
2014-03-26 06:29:26 PM skharma oh ok, Im signed up for aVDT class tomorrow maybe :)
2014-03-26 06:29:37 PM cchase great!
2014-03-26 06:29:52 PM tinajg (v)
2014-03-26 06:30:01 PM cchase it really puts you in the mind of someone with Alzheimer's
2014-03-26 06:30:28 PM scleyhan yeah that sounds really very interesting
2014-03-26 06:30:28 PM tubbsretricia this is what I need
2014-03-26 06:30:35 PM cchase let me give you some scenarios and you tell me what to do
2014-03-26 06:30:40 PM cchase okay?
2014-03-26 06:30:45 PM elizabethwoosley ok
2014-03-26 06:30:46 PM tubbsretricia okay
2014-03-26 06:30:47 PM scleyhan okay
2014-03-26 06:30:47 PM dbrewer ok
2014-03-26 06:30:47 PM ginad Sure
2014-03-26 06:30:52 PM jackieo great
2014-03-26 06:31:13 PM cchase a mother and daughter always go to dinner weekly
2014-03-26 06:31:27 PM cchase one week the daughter picked up mom
2014-03-26 06:31:37 PM cchase she had a lovely fur coat on
2014-03-26 06:31:47 PM cchase was already to go out to eat
2014-03-26 06:32:10 PM cchase when they got to the restaurant - the daughter took
2014-03-26 06:32:26 PM cchase off her own coat and mom took hers off too
2014-03-26 06:32:47 PM cchase but mom only had a bra and a slip on? what to do?
2014-03-26 06:32:59 PM cchase one at a time please
2014-03-26 06:33:18 PM dbrewer Put the fur coat back on her
2014-03-26 06:33:28 PM lindayoung1964 Put the coat back on her, very gently
2014-03-26 06:33:29 PM cchase how?
2014-03-26 06:33:33 PM tubbsretricia put her coat on
2014-03-26 06:33:36 PM jackieo tell her the coat was lovely and but it back on her
2014-03-26 06:33:36 PM scleyhan I would probably put my coat on first
2014-03-26 06:33:37 PM tinajg tell mom how beautiful she looks
2014-03-26 06:33:45 PM cchase she does not know she has a problem
2014-03-26 06:33:51 PM ginad I would redirect her to put her coat back on
2014-03-26 06:33:52 PM nansullivan Tell her you LOVE her bra and slip and perhaps it is a bit chilly and a light coat would be nice.
2014-03-26 06:34:06 PM tubbsretricia I would put my coat on and tell mother I chaned my mind on eating here
2014-03-26 06:34:12 PM scleyhan i like that
2014-03-26 06:34:16 PM nansullivan I love that.
2014-03-26 06:34:18 PM cchase yes - good put on your own coat!very good
2014-03-26 06:34:30 PM lindayoung1964 Mom let me help you get your coat back on I feel a breeze
2014-03-26 06:34:36 PM cchase but don't necessrily leave
2014-03-26 06:34:38 PM tinajg after the compliment put my coat on then suggest she put hers on
2014-03-26 06:34:43 PM elizabethwoosley Staying at her level, hold her hand, stroke her back and say I'm col and putting on my coat. Can I put hers on too?
2014-03-26 06:34:49 PM tubbsretricia thank you
2014-03-26 06:34:52 PM cchase yes - ac too high
2014-03-26 06:35:09 PM cchase good elizabeth
2014-03-26 06:35:15 PM elizabethwoosley then discuss the menu
2014-03-26 06:35:21 PM cchase and the rest of you- well done
2014-03-26 06:35:37 PM tubbsretricia Good idea Elizabeth
2014-03-26 06:35:54 PM nansullivan I'm getting that book you recommended Elizabeth!
2014-03-26 06:36:01 PM cchase now someone comes up to you and says that you took her pocketbook - what to do??
2014-03-26 06:36:02 PM elizabethwoosley :)
2014-03-26 06:36:35 PM nansullivan I say, oh my goodness, shall we look for it together. What does it look like.
2014-03-26 06:36:38 PM tinajg offer to help find it
2014-03-26 06:36:42 PM dbrewer Tell her you one jsut like it in her room
2014-03-26 06:36:50 PM tubbsretricia I ask what color is your purse
2014-03-26 06:36:53 PM jackieo offer to help look for her pocketbook
2014-03-26 06:36:58 PM scleyhan help her look for it, gently look around
2014-03-26 06:37:02 PM ginad That is good Nan
2014-03-26 06:37:10 PM cchase first
2014-03-26 06:37:17 PM cchase validate how she feels
2014-03-26 06:37:20 PM elizabethwoosley With permission, hold her hand and stoke hr back. Say something like, you must love your pocketbook, what is in it?
2014-03-26 06:37:34 PM scleyhan apologize to her first
2014-03-26 06:37:38 PM cchase say it must be scary
2014-03-26 06:37:48 PM tinajg valadate hmm
2014-03-26 06:37:48 PM cchase to lose your pocketbook
2014-03-26 06:38:00 PM cchase validating is extremely important
2014-03-26 06:38:01 PM elizabethwoosley oops. I read your question incorrectly
2014-03-26 06:38:08 PM nansullivan wouldn't that just elevate the already upset person?
2014-03-26 06:38:09 PM cchase ha ha ha
2014-03-26 06:38:25 PM tubbsretricia got it
2014-03-26 06:38:29 PM cchase no - it tells them that you understand
2014-03-26 06:38:38 PM cchase it reassures
2014-03-26 06:38:52 PM cchase then tell them that you want to help find it
2014-03-26 06:38:55 PM tinajg compassion
2014-03-26 06:39:03 PM nansullivan Empathy.
2014-03-26 06:39:04 PM cchase yes compassion
2014-03-26 06:39:15 PM skharma ok these are helpful
2014-03-26 06:39:15 PM cchase many people forget this about Alz
2014-03-26 06:39:22 PM cchase they FEEL
2014-03-26 06:39:31 PM cchase they FEEL EMOTIONS
2014-03-26 06:39:42 PM cchase not logical, rational
2014-03-26 06:39:52 PM cchase or to be reasoned with
2014-03-26 06:40:12 PM cchase they feel sadness
2014-03-26 06:40:21 PM cchase happiness, anger, etc.
2014-03-26 06:40:24 PM nansullivan left the chat room
2014-03-26 06:40:26 PM cchase relate to that
2014-03-26 06:40:46 PM skharma ok
2014-03-26 06:40:49 PM tinajg wonderful
2014-03-26 06:40:55 PM elizabethwoosley This is why art, music and pets are good tools?
2014-03-26 06:40:59 PM tubbsretricia great
2014-03-26 06:41:02 PM ginad Those items are good to know
2014-03-26 06:41:08 PM elizabethwoosley It allows the expression of emotions?
2014-03-26 06:41:08 PM cchase yes yes goood
2014-03-26 06:41:18 PM cchase very good
2014-03-26 06:41:27 PM cchase another thing
2014-03-26 06:41:41 PM cchase if someone talks like they know all about Alz
2014-03-26 06:41:52 PM cchase they probably don't know much at all
2014-03-26 06:42:06 PM cchase I look to learn about each and everyday
2014-03-26 06:42:07 PM lindayoung1964 true
2014-03-26 06:42:14 PM tinajg hmm
2014-03-26 06:42:16 PM tubbsretricia correct
2014-03-26 06:42:17 PM dbrewer Very true
2014-03-26 06:42:21 PM cchase even Teepa Snow will tell you that
2014-03-26 06:42:23 PM ginad true
2014-03-26 06:42:34 PM elizabethwoosley I feel like I don't really know anything
2014-03-26 06:42:40 PM cchase once you find something that works
2014-03-26 06:42:46 PM tinajg I'm observing your short to the point statements
2014-03-26 06:42:52 PM tinajg nice technique
2014-03-26 06:42:53 PM cchase don't think it will work everytime
2014-03-26 06:42:58 PM dbrewer it doesnt work again
2014-03-26 06:43:05 PM cchase right
2014-03-26 06:43:09 PM tubbsretricia I have a question for you cchcase
2014-03-26 06:43:19 PM cchase they are changing in the brain everyday
2014-03-26 06:43:31 PM cchase okay
2014-03-26 06:43:38 PM ginad Okay
2014-03-26 06:43:43 PM dbrewer yes
2014-03-26 06:44:13 PM cchase what is your questions??
2014-03-26 06:44:38 PM dbrewer I am always worried about activities. How many should their be in a day
2014-03-26 06:44:39 PM tubbsretricia A resident says he is losing his mind everyday because that is what he eas told. He keeps look for it everyday?
2014-03-26 06:44:56 PM tubbsretricia He ask me to help him find it
2014-03-26 06:44:56 PM dbrewer there
2014-03-26 06:45:15 PM cchase as many activities that keep them happy
2014-03-26 06:45:19 PM jackieo I will say, since I have been in this class, I have been able to recognize how we as an independent facility did not fully understand what we were always dealing with in our residents before they had to move to another facility.
2014-03-26 06:45:46 PM dbrewer One of my sweet ladies is angry because she thinks she has been committed
2014-03-26 06:45:49 PM cchase who told that resident that he is losing his mind??
2014-03-26 06:45:55 PM elizabethwoosley Tubbsreticia, that is sad.
2014-03-26 06:46:06 PM tubbsretricia THe family
2014-03-26 06:46:14 PM ginad Oh, no
2014-03-26 06:46:16 PM cchase not nice at all
2014-03-26 06:46:24 PM cchase rather mean actually
2014-03-26 06:46:29 PM ginad It is
2014-03-26 06:46:31 PM tubbsretricia so everyday I lose my mind and we search together to find our mines
2014-03-26 06:46:33 PM lindayoung1964 That is really sad for someone to day that.
2014-03-26 06:46:38 PM scleyhan families don't understand a lot, I find.
2014-03-26 06:46:39 PM elizabethwoosley Cruel
2014-03-26 06:46:40 PM cchase that's called reality orientation
2014-03-26 06:46:47 PM tubbsretricia is this good for the resident
2014-03-26 06:46:59 PM cchase like when folks tell them that their monther is dead
2014-03-26 06:47:03 PM cchase just plain mean
2014-03-26 06:47:22 PM cchase you might help to education the families
2014-03-26 06:47:23 PM lindayoung1964 I agree how would someone feel if someone did that to them
2014-03-26 06:47:34 PM elizabethwoosley tell them their mother is dead when they say they're waiting for her?
2014-03-26 06:47:52 PM cchase never never tell them mother is dead
2014-03-26 06:47:55 PM scleyhan I think you need to help the family realize that it doesn't help anything.
2014-03-26 06:48:01 PM tubbsretricia okay but he cannot go home until he find his mine
2014-03-26 06:48:05 PM cchase they relive grief all over again
2014-03-26 06:48:27 PM elizabethwoosley I meant, that was you're example of reality orientation?
2014-03-26 06:48:29 PM cchase remember - they FEEL
2014-03-26 06:48:41 PM cchase ohh sorry yes correct
2014-03-26 06:48:49 PM tubbsretricia yes they feel bad and get depressed
2014-03-26 06:48:50 PM elizabethwoosley Thank you
2014-03-26 06:49:00 PM skharma Ok, It puts the "stay in their world" into perspective, the little experience ive had with Alzheimers patients has been that they are fairly responsive to your request even though they aren't so oriented
2014-03-26 06:49:13 PM cchase you all did rather well tonight good job!!
2014-03-26 06:49:21 PM skharma thanks for the info
2014-03-26 06:49:24 PM scleyhan thank you very much!
2014-03-26 06:49:29 PM tubbsretricia thank you still learning
2014-03-26 06:49:39 PM lindayoung1964 thanks so much for info
2014-03-26 06:49:41 PM cchase me too still learning!!
2014-03-26 06:49:45 PM jackieo Thank you
2014-03-26 06:49:49 PM skharma left the chat room
2014-03-26 06:49:51 PM dbrewer Thank you
2014-03-26 06:49:53 PM elizabethwoosley Thank you! This was great. So hands on
2014-03-26 06:49:55 PM scleyhan left the chat room
2014-03-26 06:49:56 PM cchase I have adult day chat next week
2014-03-26 06:49:56 PM lindayoung1964 Thank you
2014-03-26 06:50:04 PM jackieo I will be there
2014-03-26 06:50:06 PM cchase another alz end of the month
2014-03-26 06:50:10 PM ginad When next week?
2014-03-26 06:50:11 PM tubbsretricia See you there.
2014-03-26 06:50:19 PM cchase be well everyone - great job!!!!
2014-03-26 06:50:26 PM elizabethwoosley You too!
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2014-03-26 06:50:57 PM ginad When will the chat be next week?
2014-03-26 06:51:13 PM cchase Wednesday - @ 8pm est.
2014-03-26 06:51:19 PM ginad Great!
2014-03-26 06:51:21 PM cchase check on the main web page
2014-03-26 06:51:34 PM cchase upcoming events on the right side of the screen
2014-03-26 06:51:59 PM cchase I post the dates monthly
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2014-03-26 06:52:23 PM ginad Good to know
2014-03-26 06:54:56 PM tinajg enjoyed this chat!
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2014-04-01 04:55:33 PM amberfields Hi everyone.
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2014-04-02 05:51:14 PM nitaolson guess im early
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2014-04-02 06:08:36 PM lindayoung1964 is this the specialty chat
2014-04-02 06:09:02 PM sherrybee Hi, I am wondering the same thing.
2014-04-02 06:09:46 PM lindayoung1964 it was supposte to start at 8 est
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2014-04-02 06:11:10 PM sherrybee I know and I thought this was the right place
2014-04-02 06:11:19 PM sherrybee but now I'm questioning that
2014-04-02 06:11:30 PM lindayoung1964 iam looing
2014-04-02 06:11:54 PM sherrybee It says Alzheimers Specialty
2014-04-02 06:12:38 PM nitaolson are we in the right room and have the right time
2014-04-02 06:13:05 PM sherrybee It's 8:12 here in Massachusetts and the room is titled right
2014-04-02 06:13:25 PM nitaolson 7:12 here in Texas
2014-04-02 06:13:50 PM lindayoung1964 still looking
2014-04-02 06:14:05 PM sherrybee 8-|
2014-04-02 06:14:46 PM nitaolson went to all the other rooms and no one there
2014-04-02 06:15:39 PM sherrybee It seems like we're in the right place at the right time
2014-04-02 06:16:49 PM nitaolson 8-)
2014-04-02 06:17:29 PM sherrybee Maybe someone is having computer trouble.
2014-04-02 06:17:42 PM lindayoung1964 i dont understand this
2014-04-02 06:18:37 PM nitaolson me either. no one in any of the other chatrooms
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2014-04-02 06:19:21 PM sherrybee Okeedokee
2014-04-02 06:19:55 PM sherrybee Should we wait awhile longer?
2014-04-02 06:20:22 PM nitaolson it's wednesday night and specialty chat night what's the deal
2014-04-02 06:20:23 PM sherrybee Are you taking Mepap 2 as well?
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2014-04-02 06:20:50 PM nitaolson not immediately
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2014-04-02 06:21:38 PM nitaolson doesn't it start at 7 cst
2014-04-02 06:22:09 PM sherrybee Yes, that would be 8 est. It's 20 past now.
2014-04-02 06:22:43 PM lindayoung1964 they are always on early
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2014-04-02 06:22:58 PM sherrybee This is the first I've attended
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2014-04-02 06:23:11 PM lindayoung1964 I am getting off and emailing her to see what happened
2014-04-02 06:23:18 PM lindayoung1964 what week are you in
2014-04-02 06:23:48 PM sherrybee I just started on the first
2014-04-02 06:23:57 PM lindayoung1964 I am in week 9 dont get discouraged
2014-04-02 06:24:07 PM nitaolson me too
2014-04-02 06:24:17 PM tinajg thanks linda
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2014-04-02 06:24:32 PM lindayoung1964 they are usually always on here somthing must have happened they have great ideas
2014-04-02 06:24:37 PM sherrybee I'm not discouraged by this. I'm maybe a little intimidated by the course syllabus though
2014-04-02 06:24:44 PM lindayoung1964 if i can be off help to you email me
2014-04-02 06:25:08 PM sherrybee Thank you so much! I would appreciate any help I can get!
2014-04-02 06:25:27 PM lindayoung1964 i thing you can get my email from the forum site just remind me who you are do you work in activities now
2014-04-02 06:26:55 PM sherrybee I will, I do work in activities and have for several years mainly with Alzheimers and Dementia residents in long term care.
2014-04-02 06:28:10 PM lindayoung1964 oh you should do fine, i emailed her to see what happened i am off her to try to get to bed early that has not happened much lately.
2014-04-02 06:28:15 PM sherrybee I was kinda psyched that Alzheimers would be the subject of my first chat. I was hoping to gain a few new programming ideas
2014-04-02 06:29:05 PM lindayoung1964 Sorry it didnt work out maybe she is planning on having it next month for you and i have already attended one.
2014-04-02 06:29:12 PM sherrybee Ok, well thanks for chatting. I'll send you a hello soon. Get some rest!
2014-04-02 06:29:23 PM lindayoung1964 Good luck and good night
2014-04-02 06:29:29 PM tinajg good night
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2014-04-02 06:29:38 PM ginad good night
2014-04-02 06:29:38 PM sherrybee Same to you all!
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2014-04-02 06:33:38 PM 20140401 hello I am in week 1
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2014-04-02 06:35:45 PM 20140401 is there anybody here
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2014-04-03 05:48:21 PM kathyhughes Jackie...go to the Open Discussion Room
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2014-04-03 07:29:30 PM 20140401 hello everyone
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