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2014-05-28 05:44:09 PM kleson03 hello
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2014-05-28 05:56:42 PM kimholbrook hello
2014-05-28 05:56:42 PM cchase hello how are you all doing?
2014-05-28 05:56:48 PM janice13 hello
2014-05-28 05:56:55 PM kimholbrook good
2014-05-28 05:57:17 PM cchase My name is Celeste and I am your chat moderator
2014-05-28 05:57:26 PM janice13 I am Janice
2014-05-28 05:57:43 PM cchase Hello Janice, please tell me what class your in!!!
2014-05-28 05:57:51 PM janice13 05062014 MEPAP 2
2014-05-28 05:57:58 PM cchase you too amanda
2014-05-28 05:58:02 PM amberfields hello
2014-05-28 05:58:02 PM cchase and Kim
2014-05-28 05:58:09 PM amberfields mepap040114
2014-05-28 05:58:12 PM cchase hello amber
2014-05-28 05:58:16 PM amberfields mepap1
2014-05-28 05:58:27 PM amanda33 hello meapap2 05-06_14 my name is amanda
2014-05-28 05:58:44 PM cchase okay now one at a time
2014-05-28 05:58:45 PM kimholbrook MEPAP1 - 040114
2014-05-28 05:58:46 PM amberfields hello
2014-05-28 05:58:57 PM amberfields how are you
2014-05-28 05:59:08 PM cchase what do you all know about Alzheimer's
2014-05-28 05:59:35 PM amanda33 hi all
2014-05-28 05:59:43 PM cchase hello
2014-05-28 06:00:11 PM janice13 that it is a diesease process that takes the brain away from the person
2014-05-28 06:00:18 PM amanda33 lots work it everyday nursjnf dementia unit
2014-05-28 06:01:02 PM kerrid enter the chat room
2014-05-28 06:01:15 PM cchase it does take the brain away! how??
2014-05-28 06:01:32 PM janice13 destroys the cells
2014-05-28 06:01:45 PM janice13 takes the ability to keep and recall memory
2014-05-28 06:01:48 PM amanda33 detairation of cells
2014-05-28 06:02:07 PM cchase how does it destroy??
2014-05-28 06:02:15 PM kerrid I know very little from a technical standpoint, but I have seen how it affects a person and their family
2014-05-28 06:02:27 PM cchase how does it prevent memory recall?
2014-05-28 06:02:40 PM pawood enter the chat room
2014-05-28 06:02:41 PM cchase true kerri
2014-05-28 06:02:50 PM cchase hello there
2014-05-28 06:03:01 PM janice13 it creates blocks in the brian that take away the memory function
2014-05-28 06:03:06 PM pawood hello is this the extra credit chat tonight
2014-05-28 06:03:07 PM amanda33 blockage of oxygen and cell production
2014-05-28 06:03:40 PM cchase not so much blockage of oxygen but it does block
2014-05-28 06:03:56 PM cchase have you heard of plaques and tangles???
2014-05-28 06:04:38 PM kerrid It is sad when you have a resident that is trying to tell you something and they know what it is, but can't formulate the words to get it out or it comes out in word salad...or just in scattered random thoughts.
2014-05-28 06:04:43 PM janice13 yes, it happens in the heart as well the more plaque the narrower the brian paths are
2014-05-28 06:05:07 PM amanda33 so tell us
2014-05-28 06:05:28 PM kerrid I have not
2014-05-28 06:05:33 PM cchase these plaques are different but the same principle as those in the heart!
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2014-05-28 06:06:40 PM cchase ops
2014-05-28 06:07:06 PM kerrid logged yourself out?
2014-05-28 06:07:20 PM cchase the heart blocks are arteries that have been constricted by fat deposits of a sort
2014-05-28 06:07:55 PM pawood pamela mepap2 050614
2014-05-28 06:07:57 PM cchase wear as the brain snapses stop communicated due to plaques and tangles
2014-05-28 06:08:01 PM amanda33 yes
2014-05-28 06:08:04 PM cchase hello pam
2014-05-28 06:08:09 PM pawood hello
2014-05-28 06:08:29 PM cchase litterally tangles grow and prevent communication
2014-05-28 06:08:55 PM pawood are you talking about the filters shutting down
2014-05-28 06:09:02 PM cchase lots of research being done to figure out what makes this happen
2014-05-28 06:09:16 PM janice13 kind of like taking string and ting the ends off in lots of places
2014-05-28 06:09:19 PM pawood tbi
2014-05-28 06:09:50 PM cchase indeed - filters no longer prevent them from doing or saying something you and I would think first about
2014-05-28 06:09:57 PM amanda33 exactly and loss of memorty loss is sad
2014-05-28 06:09:59 PM tammy73 enter the chat room
2014-05-28 06:10:08 PM cchase perfect. think about that string!! good
2014-05-28 06:10:29 PM cchase why do you think they lose the memory??
2014-05-28 06:10:38 PM pawood traumatic brain injury is a major cause
2014-05-28 06:10:51 PM janice13 when parts of the brian are blocked you can't reach the whole memory just parts of it
2014-05-28 06:11:08 PM amanda33 alchol abuse stroke
2014-05-28 06:11:26 PM cchase TBI is definitely a cause of brain memory loss but not the same as Alzheimer's
2014-05-28 06:11:33 PM tammy73 tammy mepap1 040114
2014-05-28 06:11:34 PM pawood i have found at our facility most demenia residents were electricians
2014-05-28 06:11:43 PM cchase Alchol abuse is also a cause for memory loss
2014-05-28 06:11:54 PM duresaw enter the chat room
2014-05-28 06:12:06 PM duresaw sorry I'm late
2014-05-28 06:12:06 PM cchase that is generally what is referred to as dementia
2014-05-28 06:12:14 PM cchase no worries welcome!!
2014-05-28 06:12:22 PM janice13 there are many forms of that as well
2014-05-28 06:12:26 PM cchase what are other causes of dementia
2014-05-28 06:12:29 PM duresaw are you taking attendance?
2014-05-28 06:12:38 PM cchase yes I am taking attendance
2014-05-28 06:12:44 PM kimholbrook strokes
2014-05-28 06:12:47 PM janice13 stroke, falls with head injuries
2014-05-28 06:12:52 PM duresaw Duresa Wickersham: MEPAP2: 050614
2014-05-28 06:12:55 PM cchase you all need to participate to get credit
2014-05-28 06:13:01 PM amanda33 srtroke....parkinsons
2014-05-28 06:13:05 PM cchase yes strokes
2014-05-28 06:13:13 PM pawood drugs
2014-05-28 06:13:16 PM cchase parkinsons - good
2014-05-28 06:13:24 PM cchase drugs absolutely
2014-05-28 06:13:27 PM duresaw what did I missed?
2014-05-28 06:13:33 PM janice13 seizures
2014-05-28 06:13:37 PM cchase remember that commercial with the egges
2014-05-28 06:13:51 PM cchase this is your brain on drugs!!
2014-05-28 06:13:56 PM cchase yes seizures
2014-05-28 06:14:06 PM kerrid I remember that commercial
2014-05-28 06:14:15 PM amanda33 yes i remember that
2014-05-28 06:14:18 PM cchase okay - maybe you don't remember that commercial8-|
2014-05-28 06:14:22 PM janice13 I do
2014-05-28 06:14:26 PM cchase you do!!
2014-05-28 06:14:31 PM kimholbrook I remember
2014-05-28 06:14:32 PM kerrid Of course!
2014-05-28 06:14:32 PM duresaw Is there particular reason that trigger a person to have a seizures?
2014-05-28 06:14:40 PM tammy73 i do
2014-05-28 06:14:51 PM janice13 meds, epilepsy (spelling)
2014-05-28 06:14:55 PM cchase seizure are not generally attributed to Alzheimer's
2014-05-28 06:14:56 PM amanda33 yes seiures so tgat
2014-05-28 06:15:03 PM pawood not doing enough brain games our residents enjoy crossword puzzles and feel that if they can still do them they wont loss their memory
2014-05-28 06:15:12 PM cchase they can occurr due to TBI or ABI
2014-05-28 06:15:20 PM cchase medications as well
2014-05-28 06:15:20 PM kerrid what about just being genetically pre-disposed to dementia
2014-05-28 06:15:30 PM cchase hmmmm
2014-05-28 06:15:32 PM kerrid aren't there factors like that?
2014-05-28 06:15:47 PM cchase most likely genetically pre-disposed to Alzheimer's
2014-05-28 06:15:51 PM duresaw do we have any age range for them to start having the symptoms?
2014-05-28 06:15:55 PM kerrid ok
2014-05-28 06:16:19 PM cchase dementia is a symptom of Alzheimers
2014-05-28 06:16:24 PM janice13 no it could be a servre brian injury
2014-05-28 06:16:24 PM kerrid we have have a rsd with early onset....young guy only 55
2014-05-28 06:16:27 PM pawood we have one resident 45 with dementia its sad
2014-05-28 06:16:36 PM amanda33 my mother in law was 43
2014-05-28 06:16:37 PM cchase dementia is also a symptom of all the others that you all mentioned
2014-05-28 06:16:42 PM duresaw it is too bad we don't have no cure for it though
2014-05-28 06:16:52 PM kerrid yes it is
2014-05-28 06:17:04 PM cchase yes - it would be wonderful to find a cure
2014-05-28 06:17:07 PM amanda33 yes it is
2014-05-28 06:17:13 PM kerrid however, i think that we can still offer quality of life
2014-05-28 06:17:19 PM pawood i thought i read an article that someone in the uk was working on a program
2014-05-28 06:17:28 PM cchase I have heard of one person who is 33 a young MOM
2014-05-28 06:17:28 PM janice13 all we can do right now is to be healthy, exercise and keep using our brian
2014-05-28 06:17:35 PM amanda33 yes
2014-05-28 06:17:41 PM duresaw I spoke to one of the family member and she was about to cry by just talking about her mom
2014-05-28 06:17:42 PM pawood exercise
2014-05-28 06:18:00 PM duresaw a lot of brain exercises
2014-05-28 06:18:08 PM kimholbrook 33. That's sad
2014-05-28 06:18:10 PM tammy73 do they have any thoughts on the cause in someone so young
2014-05-28 06:18:10 PM janice13 memory recall games and activities
2014-05-28 06:18:18 PM cchase you know that there are lots of ideas about staying brain healthy
2014-05-28 06:18:26 PM janice13 yes
2014-05-28 06:18:28 PM amanda33 yes brain exercise for sure
2014-05-28 06:18:29 PM duresaw that's why we have to read every day
2014-05-28 06:18:34 PM cchase use a different hand to write
2014-05-28 06:18:50 PM duresaw writing is good too
2014-05-28 06:18:51 PM pawood we are a veterans center so we have soldiers who have suffered
2014-05-28 06:18:52 PM cchase remember the color of the car parked net to you
2014-05-28 06:18:52 PM kleson03 left the chat room
2014-05-28 06:19:00 PM janice13 crossover working, using the opposite side of your body to do everyday tasks
2014-05-28 06:19:03 PM tammy73 crosswords, word search, suduko
2014-05-28 06:19:04 PM amanda33 dakim brain fitness on computer
2014-05-28 06:19:17 PM cchase if you use a different hand to write you engage a different area of your brain
2014-05-28 06:19:31 PM cchase yes Janice good
2014-05-28 06:19:35 PM kimholbrook never thought of that
2014-05-28 06:19:35 PM duresaw true about the writing on different hand
2014-05-28 06:19:49 PM janice13 when I taught preschool I used to place the materials on the wrong side of the table for the kids to pick them up
2014-05-28 06:19:55 PM cchase we all do the same thing the same way
2014-05-28 06:20:04 PM duresaw true
2014-05-28 06:20:15 PM cchase brush your teeth with a different hand or brush your hair
2014-05-28 06:20:24 PM kerrid I've never heard about using your other hand. Thats cool!
2014-05-28 06:20:28 PM janice13 that is harder than we think
2014-05-28 06:20:29 PM amanda33 swear words come dfrom certain part i belive left side
2014-05-28 06:20:32 PM cchase botton with a different hand
2014-05-28 06:20:39 PM janice13 draw or paint with the other hands
2014-05-28 06:20:43 PM pawood we are getting wifi in our facility so i am looking forward to using ipads with our residents
2014-05-28 06:20:46 PM cchase interesting thing about swear words
2014-05-28 06:20:54 PM kerrid ??
2014-05-28 06:20:57 PM janice13 try tying your shoe with the opposite hand first
2014-05-28 06:20:58 PM duresaw you ever tried brain training from DSI xl?
2014-05-28 06:21:14 PM kerrid No
2014-05-28 06:21:17 PM amanda33 yes leared that in seminar
2014-05-28 06:21:19 PM cchase I have someone with a previous stroke that cannot speak words " aphasia"
2014-05-28 06:21:32 PM kerrid I have one like that too
2014-05-28 06:21:35 PM cchase but can say the nasty four letter word perfectly
2014-05-28 06:21:49 PM kimholbrook but can still swear
2014-05-28 06:21:50 PM pawood we have a few too
2014-05-28 06:21:50 PM janice13 it is a different recall
2014-05-28 06:21:52 PM kerrid funny
2014-05-28 06:21:53 PM cchase and at the appropriate time too 8-|
2014-05-28 06:22:01 PM janice13 no filter
2014-05-28 06:22:03 PM kerrid really? that's intersting
2014-05-28 06:22:07 PM kimholbrook yes I have seen that
2014-05-28 06:22:15 PM duresaw really good for brain training and too funny for the 4 letter word
2014-05-28 06:22:18 PM janice13 old saliors do it all the time
2014-05-28 06:22:19 PM kerrid my gal doesn't at all
2014-05-28 06:22:20 PM cchase okay so we know that memory gets lost - how??
2014-05-28 06:22:21 PM amanda33 exactally
2014-05-28 06:22:38 PM duresaw not enough brain exercise
2014-05-28 06:22:43 PM janice13 it gets refiled at the back of the brian and is harder to pull forward
2014-05-28 06:22:45 PM cchase could be
2014-05-28 06:22:54 PM cchase yes Janice
2014-05-28 06:22:58 PM cchase very well done
2014-05-28 06:23:09 PM cchase what makes it harder to pull forward
2014-05-28 06:23:23 PM kerrid Hmmm...just like the stuff at the bottom of my desk drawer....
2014-05-28 06:23:42 PM pawood we have a lot of remeniscing programs on our dementia unit
2014-05-28 06:23:50 PM amanda33 cell blockage
2014-05-28 06:23:51 PM janice13 to many paths have been cut out and you forget that you know it
2014-05-28 06:23:55 PM cchase any ideas?/
2014-05-28 06:24:04 PM pawood puzzles are great
2014-05-28 06:24:07 PM duresaw do a lot of scientific training
2014-05-28 06:24:11 PM janice13 sometimes when you smell something it will bring a memory forward
2014-05-28 06:24:27 PM cchase so we know about the plaques right?
2014-05-28 06:24:32 PM tammy73 plaques and tangles
2014-05-28 06:24:41 PM kimholbrook yes
2014-05-28 06:24:41 PM janice13 yes a build up of fat
2014-05-28 06:24:46 PM pawood yes
2014-05-28 06:24:52 PM duresaw yes
2014-05-28 06:25:05 PM cchase not fat - beta amyloid protein build up
2014-05-28 06:25:12 PM duresaw eat right and exercise regularly
2014-05-28 06:25:23 PM duresaw hmmm...
2014-05-28 06:25:27 PM amanda33 exercise
2014-05-28 06:25:29 PM cchase what memories were stored before the onset of the disease
2014-05-28 06:25:34 PM janice13 ok
2014-05-28 06:25:37 PM cchase remain intact
2014-05-28 06:25:59 PM cchase but any memory after the onset of the disease cannot any longer get stored
2014-05-28 06:26:03 PM janice13 early memories from childhood and early 20 to 40's or so
2014-05-28 06:26:04 PM amanda33 yes
2014-05-28 06:26:14 PM kimholbrook right
2014-05-28 06:26:15 PM kerrid i've seen that....which is why so many of our residents remember parents, etc and think that they are still around
2014-05-28 06:26:23 PM cchase b/c the plaques keep them from going where they need to for later recall
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2014-05-28 06:26:44 PM duresaw that makes sense
2014-05-28 06:26:48 PM cchase that's why they often tell you a story so crispy clear from long ago.
2014-05-28 06:26:49 PM janice13 a corn maze with no direction
2014-05-28 06:26:54 PM kerrid true
2014-05-28 06:26:56 PM amanda33 yes
2014-05-28 06:26:57 PM cchase yes Janice
2014-05-28 06:27:08 PM kleson03 enter the chat room
2014-05-28 06:27:14 PM tammy73 nice janice
2014-05-28 06:27:45 PM cchase hello ther
2014-05-28 06:27:51 PM cchase ops
2014-05-28 06:28:05 PM cchase typing awful tonight . . . hmmmm
2014-05-28 06:28:11 PM janice13 that is ok
2014-05-28 06:28:33 PM cchase now with this information - tell me why reminscing is so important
2014-05-28 06:28:54 PM janice13 it recalls their early years and most prominent memories
2014-05-28 06:29:13 PM kerrid does it help them cycle through their memories
2014-05-28 06:29:14 PM cchase yes and how do you suppose that makes them feel??
2014-05-28 06:29:17 PM tammy73 to keep using what they have
2014-05-28 06:29:25 PM kerrid Depends on the memory
2014-05-28 06:29:26 PM kleson03 because it helps them think of their early years and keeps there mind sharp
2014-05-28 06:29:41 PM cchase yes Tammy - good use what they still have - not what they lost
2014-05-28 06:29:51 PM pawood it helps keep some memories intact and they are more willing to recall
2014-05-28 06:29:52 PM janice13 very sad and lost this is the part where they now some people and children but may think they are from the past rather than right now
2014-05-28 06:29:54 PM cchase do you think it makes them feel good
2014-05-28 06:29:58 PM tammy73 it makes them feel normal in time not so good
2014-05-28 06:30:03 PM cchase about themselves??
2014-05-28 06:30:09 PM kerrid I agree, normal
2014-05-28 06:30:12 PM cchase yes Tammy normal
2014-05-28 06:30:12 PM pawood it makes them feel safe
2014-05-28 06:30:22 PM janice13 they are in the moment
2014-05-28 06:30:30 PM tammy73 they spend a lot of time scared and dont understand
2014-05-28 06:30:31 PM cchase builds there sense of self esttem
2014-05-28 06:30:32 PM kerrid I think it gives them a connection to something
2014-05-28 06:30:37 PM amanda33 cause long term memory stay with them longer then short team
2014-05-28 06:30:44 PM cchase esteem?
2014-05-28 06:30:51 PM kleson03 they feel good
2014-05-28 06:31:02 PM kerrid Yes, confidence
2014-05-28 06:31:10 PM cchase correct. typically short term memory means???what
2014-05-28 06:31:17 PM kleson03 makes them talk alot
2014-05-28 06:31:24 PM janice13 what just happened
2014-05-28 06:31:26 PM kerrid connection
2014-05-28 06:31:28 PM cchase yes and when they feel good what happens??
2014-05-28 06:31:31 PM kleson03 short term it what they remeber now
2014-05-28 06:31:36 PM pawood ask the same question over and over agnai
2014-05-28 06:31:40 PM pawood again
2014-05-28 06:31:42 PM duresaw makes them feel good
2014-05-28 06:31:47 PM kimholbrook they are happy
2014-05-28 06:31:48 PM tammy73 they feel at ease
2014-05-28 06:31:54 PM amanda33 short term never stays
2014-05-28 06:32:01 PM tammy73 happy and less anxious
2014-05-28 06:32:01 PM cchase yes happy means no behavior problems
2014-05-28 06:32:03 PM duresaw yes
2014-05-28 06:32:06 PM kerrid yes
2014-05-28 06:32:09 PM janice13 most times
2014-05-28 06:32:14 PM cchase no anxiety problems
2014-05-28 06:32:15 PM kimholbrook true
2014-05-28 06:32:23 PM cchase that is your goal
2014-05-28 06:32:33 PM kerrid they usually eat better and enjoy meal times more
2014-05-28 06:32:35 PM cchase when you work with this population folks
2014-05-28 06:32:40 PM amanda33 yes happy world best world
2014-05-28 06:32:52 PM janice13 yes it is, i love having other residents help out when someone is sad
2014-05-28 06:33:02 PM cchase blissfully unaware or pleasantly confused
2014-05-28 06:33:11 PM kerrid I like that
2014-05-28 06:33:25 PM cchase either way - all good for them and for you the caregiver
2014-05-28 06:33:35 PM janice13 yep gotta love it
2014-05-28 06:33:43 PM amanda33 i agreed
2014-05-28 06:33:45 PM tammy73 i love when they cross he hump and become pleasantly confused
2014-05-28 06:33:56 PM ginad enter the chat room
2014-05-28 06:33:58 PM cchase keep this in mind and you will be successful working with Alzheimers'
2014-05-28 06:34:10 PM kerrid It is amazing to me how aware our Alz. patients are when someone in the unit passes.....as much as we shield them from it...they just know.
2014-05-28 06:34:13 PM kleson03 thanks good info
2014-05-28 06:34:14 PM ginad Gina Dunlap MEPAP II 050614
2014-05-28 06:34:27 PM cchase hello there
2014-05-28 06:34:37 PM janice13 i gina
2014-05-28 06:34:42 PM pawood hello
2014-05-28 06:34:48 PM ginad Sorry I am late, work.
2014-05-28 06:34:53 PM cchase no worries
2014-05-28 06:34:56 PM kleson03 Kristin Leson mepap1-050614
2014-05-28 06:35:01 PM duresaw I do work in a memory and behavior unit
2014-05-28 06:35:03 PM cchase welcome
2014-05-28 06:35:14 PM duresaw it gets crazy in the afternoon
2014-05-28 06:35:22 PM cchase so now let's talk redirection - what is that??
2014-05-28 06:35:25 PM janice13 sundowning time
2014-05-28 06:35:27 PM duresaw and fullmoon
2014-05-28 06:35:28 PM kleson03 sun down
2014-05-28 06:35:46 PM cchase ???
2014-05-28 06:35:57 PM cchase is that the definition for redirection??
2014-05-28 06:36:09 PM cchase how do you redirect and why??
2014-05-28 06:36:09 PM amanda33 pulling them away from agitation to happy world
2014-05-28 06:36:11 PM ginad redirection is when you talk to the resident about something else or direct them to a different activity
2014-05-28 06:36:12 PM kerrid hmm...changing the subject or deflecting towards another activity
2014-05-28 06:36:14 PM tammy73 taking there mind of what is making them anxious
2014-05-28 06:36:17 PM cchase yes Amanda
2014-05-28 06:36:36 PM pawood my activity aid goes crazy in the evening. she works 3-11 and the wandering residents about 25 are kept busy up til 10:30 pm
2014-05-28 06:36:36 PM duresaw change the subject and change the environment for redirect
2014-05-28 06:36:36 PM cchase yes good kerri too
2014-05-28 06:36:42 PM cchase yes tammy
2014-05-28 06:36:54 PM janice13 no redirection is taking them from something that makes them unhappy or upset to something that gives them peace or happiness
2014-05-28 06:36:57 PM amanda33 be inthere world and agree

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