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2013-04-03 06:38:41 PM tammy2012 that you do, why upset them
2013-04-03 06:38:47 PM brenda1945 We just signed up....lol
2013-04-03 06:38:47 PM thively exactly! I learned that with my Mommom...
2013-04-03 06:38:59 PM cchase it better to fib then to tell them that someone is dead
2013-04-03 06:39:16 PM thively you cause them to re-experience the loss and grieving!
2013-04-03 06:39:21 PM thively it's cruel
2013-04-03 06:39:26 PM cchase it is called a theraputic fiblet
2013-04-03 06:39:32 PM cathymayle lol
2013-04-03 06:39:39 PM tammy2012 right on
2013-04-03 06:39:39 PM cchase true honest
2013-04-03 06:39:41 PM jfaines0909 really?
2013-04-03 06:39:44 PM cchase yes
2013-04-03 06:39:51 PM kmcooley even if it is their husband/ wife ?
2013-04-03 06:39:51 PM lfrancois yes, we didnt tell a resident her daughter was dying from cancer.
2013-04-03 06:40:19 PM cathymayle My residents look forward to the obituaries when we read the newspaper
2013-04-03 06:40:26 PM cchase never make them relive a horrible event or feeling
2013-04-03 06:40:30 PM tammy2012 it depends on how the resident is goingto take it
2013-04-03 06:40:33 PM lfrancois mine too Cathy
2013-04-03 06:40:36 PM cchase what!
2013-04-03 06:40:36 PM thively I see family members do this to their loved ones all the time, constantly reminding them that everyone they ever knew is dead...
2013-04-03 06:40:40 PM cchase yikes!
2013-04-03 06:40:41 PM kmcooley I skip the obits...
2013-04-03 06:40:44 PM brenda1945 Guess it depends on the patient.....? Oh yes ours read them too,
2013-04-03 06:41:09 PM tammy2012 mine love them
2013-04-03 06:41:10 PM cathymayle Before I even get the newspaper out they are asking who died today!!!
2013-04-03 06:41:12 PM jfaines0909 oh gee I don't think I could every read obits to them. if they are cognitive enough to read on their own then I can't stop it but reading them to them....that seems wrong
2013-04-03 06:41:27 PM cchase You need to keep them in a happy state to prevent behavior problems
2013-04-03 06:41:53 PM jfaines0909 i agree cchase
2013-04-03 06:42:00 PM cathymayle They ask me to read them so I do
2013-04-03 06:42:01 PM tammy2012 how do you deal the undressing
2013-04-03 06:42:08 PM thively their mood makes all the difference
2013-04-03 06:42:09 PM cchase how so
2013-04-03 06:42:13 PM brenda1945 I had a Resident the other day say her son was coming in the afternoon, we made sure her hair was done, he was been gone for some time, she didn't remember within an hour but was happy for a little while
2013-04-03 06:42:14 PM jfaines0909 We reminise about peope but I never tell them they are dead.
2013-04-03 06:42:39 PM cchase never create a dark mood
2013-04-03 06:42:55 PM brenda1945 I agree 100%
2013-04-03 06:42:56 PM cchase do they undress
2013-04-03 06:43:16 PM tammy2012 yes, usually to take brief off
2013-04-03 06:43:20 PM cchase they might be trying to say that the clothes are uncomfortable
2013-04-03 06:43:25 PM jfaines0909 I have some public undressers....You need to find the reason they are undressing.
2013-04-03 06:43:32 PM kmcooley or they're too hot
2013-04-03 06:43:33 PM cchase or that they are wet
2013-04-03 06:43:38 PM cchase or hot - right
2013-04-03 06:43:40 PM jfaines0909 To hot, wet, pain
2013-04-03 06:43:49 PM cchase yes all of those
2013-04-03 06:43:50 PM tammy2012 because she doesn't like the feel of the brief
2013-04-03 06:43:54 PM thively we do have some issues with inappropriate behavior too, but it's important not to makke a big deal or embarass or scold them
2013-04-03 06:44:06 PM thively just redirect and see if something is wrong
2013-04-03 06:44:11 PM jfaines0909 Maybe nursing needs to find another brand
2013-04-03 06:44:19 PM cchase never- I say never argue with them -- you willl lose
2013-04-03 06:44:21 PM kmcooley ...and don't put the resident cat in their lap...flying cat!
2013-04-03 06:44:24 PM cathymayle I had one that would undress for attention
2013-04-03 06:44:28 PM brenda1945 Could be they are allergic..
2013-04-03 06:44:41 PM cchase possibly
2013-04-03 06:44:46 PM tammy2012 I don't think so
2013-04-03 06:44:58 PM cchase maybe the leg elastic is too tight
2013-04-03 06:45:17 PM tammy2012 she does fine when her family, volunteer or staff is present
2013-04-03 06:45:19 PM thively we had one gentleman, the one I mentioned earlier with early onset, and we was "whipping it out" all over the facility including serving it up on a tray in the dining room and urinating in a corner of the dining room
2013-04-03 06:45:32 PM thively he*
2013-04-03 06:45:44 PM jfaines0909 Well I need to go. Thank you so much. I really learned alot today. Hopefully I will get in on some more chats.
2013-04-03 06:45:46 PM cathymayle When there is a combative resident and they send out, when they come back, why are they in a nonresponsive, always sleeping state?
2013-04-03 06:46:03 PM cchase please do - learning is great
2013-04-03 06:46:11 PM cchase glad you could make it
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2013-04-03 06:46:16 PM tammy2012 hospitals like to medicate
2013-04-03 06:46:23 PM brenda1945 IWe speak to each one every morning, cheery and positive by name. They cannot wait for us to get to work.....visiting in the office we include them in conversation, they lead...
2013-04-03 06:46:25 PM cchase medicated?
2013-04-03 06:46:31 PM thively yeah, I was going to say that they are likely sedated
2013-04-03 06:46:31 PM tammy2012 so they don't have to deal with the problems
2013-04-03 06:46:37 PM horton That is so true, why do they come back non responsive?
2013-04-03 06:46:54 PM cathymayle Well, the last four that came back all passed away within a couple weeks of returning
2013-04-03 06:46:59 PM cchase possibly over medicated
2013-04-03 06:47:05 PM brenda1945 We had that experience recently....sad....
2013-04-03 06:47:18 PM kmcooley I think Washington state allows chemical "restraints", but california does not...observation...
2013-04-03 06:47:39 PM thively Maryland does not allow chemical or physical restraints
2013-04-03 06:47:46 PM cchase you are right the meds may be considered chemical restraint
2013-04-03 06:47:51 PM kmcooley maybe they got mrsa or whatever
2013-04-03 06:48:14 PM cchase there are so many other ways to "redirect" behavior
2013-04-03 06:48:29 PM thively going to the hospital can be so dangerous for them... they pick up so much
2013-04-03 06:48:32 PM horton It appears that they never get better afterwards. Welve had a couple that just llike withdrew and passed away
2013-04-03 06:48:43 PM cchase here is a case study - you guys tell me what you would do
2013-04-03 06:48:45 PM kmcooley any books to recommend with activities for Alz patients
2013-04-03 06:49:23 PM cchase I have a few good books email me and I will send you the names
2013-04-03 06:49:32 PM kmcooley thanks!
2013-04-03 06:49:43 PM brenda1945 Perfect!
2013-04-03 06:49:46 PM cchase cchase@activitydirector.com
2013-04-03 06:50:02 PM cchase here is the case
2013-04-03 06:50:06 PM cchase are you ready
2013-04-03 06:50:12 PM horton yes
2013-04-03 06:50:14 PM lfrancois ready
2013-04-03 06:50:18 PM kmcooley yes
2013-04-03 06:50:18 PM cchase ok
2013-04-03 06:50:20 PM brenda1945 yep
2013-04-03 06:50:22 PM thively yup
2013-04-03 06:50:34 PM cathymayle yep
2013-04-03 06:50:47 PM tammy2012 yes
2013-04-03 06:50:50 PM cchase this gentleman aways sits across from someone at the dinrm
2013-04-03 06:51:10 PM cchase and he always pops the person directly across from him
2013-04-03 06:51:31 PM cchase what do you think might be the cause
2013-04-03 06:51:39 PM kmcooley he was a boxer
2013-04-03 06:51:50 PM thively pops? as in hits?
2013-04-03 06:51:54 PM cchase :D
2013-04-03 06:52:03 PM cchase yes
2013-04-03 06:52:04 PM brenda1945 He thinks they are going to get his food?
2013-04-03 06:52:06 PM horton uti
2013-04-03 06:52:13 PM tammy2012 for some reason he does not like the person that sits across from him
2013-04-03 06:52:20 PM cathymayle maybe it happened to him in the past and thats what he remembers so he is doing it
2013-04-03 06:52:24 PM cchase okay here's more
2013-04-03 06:52:34 PM lfrancois used to pop his wife on the bottom (lol)
2013-04-03 06:52:53 PM cchase we sat someone different across from him and he still popped him one
2013-04-03 06:53:08 PM cchase (lol)
2013-04-03 06:53:12 PM cchase no
2013-04-03 06:53:15 PM tammy2012 does he want to be alone???
2013-04-03 06:53:24 PM brenda1945 He thinks direct eye contact is a confrontation?
2013-04-03 06:53:27 PM cchase hmmm
2013-04-03 06:53:29 PM cchase no
2013-04-03 06:53:32 PM thively perhaps he wants to be alone or that person is blocking a view?
2013-04-03 06:53:40 PM cchase he is rather social fellow
2013-04-03 06:54:00 PM cathymayle his way of saying hello?!
2013-04-03 06:54:08 PM brenda1945 He thinks there is a fly on their arm?
2013-04-03 06:54:08 PM lfrancois thinks the other person is a pet??
2013-04-03 06:54:11 PM cchase okay so how can you determine what is going on?
2013-04-03 06:54:12 PM thively sundowing? is it only at dinnertime?
2013-04-03 06:54:16 PM kmcooley was he in a club and that was a normal greeting?
2013-04-03 06:54:29 PM horton popped him one? One what?
2013-04-03 06:54:36 PM cchase a punch
2013-04-03 06:54:38 PM cathymayle hit him
2013-04-03 06:54:50 PM kmcooley ask family members
2013-04-03 06:54:57 PM cchase my preference of terms8-|
2013-04-03 06:54:57 PM brenda1945 He wants his desert?
2013-04-03 06:55:06 PM cathymayle lol
2013-04-03 06:55:30 PM cchase okay so are you ready to hear what we did and found out?
2013-04-03 06:55:32 PM thively check for uti, talk to family and caregivers, check into if something specific is agitating him
2013-04-03 06:55:37 PM cathymayle yep
2013-04-03 06:55:40 PM kmcooley yeah
2013-04-03 06:55:42 PM thively yes
2013-04-03 06:55:45 PM brenda1945 yep
2013-04-03 06:55:47 PM horton YeSSSSSSSSS
2013-04-03 06:55:53 PM cchase ok
2013-04-03 06:55:57 PM lfrancois ({)
2013-04-03 06:56:16 PM cchase ({) so cute
2013-04-03 06:56:20 PM cchase ok
2013-04-03 06:56:31 PM cchase we sat in the same chair he sat in
2013-04-03 06:56:40 PM cathymayle ok
2013-04-03 06:56:43 PM cchase we took a look around
2013-04-03 06:56:47 PM brenda1945 did you hit anyone
2013-04-03 06:56:49 PM cathymayle ok
2013-04-03 06:56:55 PM cchase nay
2013-04-03 06:56:55 PM tammy2012 ok
2013-04-03 06:56:56 PM lfrancois haha brenda
2013-04-03 06:57:01 PM cchase thought of it but no
2013-04-03 06:57:27 PM cchase when we looked at the direction he would look we noticed something
2013-04-03 06:57:39 PM cathymayle a sign or a picture
2013-04-03 06:57:43 PM cchase no
2013-04-03 06:57:46 PM lfrancois come on come on
2013-04-03 06:57:46 PM thively glare on sunlight?
2013-04-03 06:57:49 PM thively of*
2013-04-03 06:57:49 PM cchase yes
2013-04-03 06:57:55 PM brenda1945 wow
2013-04-03 06:57:58 PM cchase you got it!!! super job
2013-04-03 06:58:05 PM kmcooley glare?
2013-04-03 06:58:07 PM thively woohoo!
2013-04-03 06:58:10 PM cchase the sunlight glared through the window
2013-04-03 06:58:17 PM brenda1945 good job
2013-04-03 06:58:26 PM horton wow!
2013-04-03 06:58:26 PM cathymayle so he hit someone
2013-04-03 06:58:31 PM cchase and he thought someone was intentionally flashing at him
2013-04-03 06:58:37 PM lfrancois awww
2013-04-03 06:58:50 PM kmcooley ...oh...good story
2013-04-03 06:58:52 PM cchase we drew the shade and presto
2013-04-03 06:58:55 PM brenda1945 putting yourself in his chair, that is good
2013-04-03 06:58:57 PM cchase fixed
2013-04-03 06:59:04 PM cchase yes -
2013-04-03 06:59:05 PM cathymayle cool
2013-04-03 06:59:09 PM thively you gotta love simple solutions...
2013-04-03 06:59:11 PM lfrancois awsome
2013-04-03 06:59:12 PM cchase just sit and see what they see
2013-04-03 06:59:23 PM brenda1945 I guess that could appliy to a lot of situations
2013-04-03 06:59:24 PM tammy2012 makes sense
2013-04-03 06:59:35 PM tammy2012 so true
2013-04-03 06:59:35 PM horton thanks, appreciate that
2013-04-03 06:59:49 PM cchase how about a daughter who takes her mom to the restaurant
2013-04-03 06:59:53 PM lfrancois I will tell that story tomorrow
2013-04-03 07:00:00 PM cathymayle OK, well I have a long day tomorrow. You guys have a good night.
2013-04-03 07:00:04 PM cchase good do that
2013-04-03 07:00:13 PM cchase good night
2013-04-03 07:00:15 PM lfrancois gn
2013-04-03 07:00:18 PM brenda1945 Ejoyed!
2013-04-03 07:00:18 PM cathymayle left the chat room
2013-04-03 07:00:23 PM cchase thank you for coming
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2013-04-03 07:00:32 PM lfrancois Thanks!!!
2013-04-03 07:00:36 PM kmcooley Thanks!
2013-04-03 07:00:38 PM horton good night, enjoyed it
2013-04-03 07:00:41 PM cchase your welcome
2013-04-03 07:00:52 PM cchase look for next months chat
2013-04-03 07:00:59 PM lfrancois will do
2013-04-03 07:01:02 PM tammy2012 good night
2013-04-03 07:01:07 PM cchase and I will do an Adult Day one at the end of this month
2013-04-03 07:01:07 PM horton sure will
2013-04-03 07:01:16 PM cchase take care everyone
2013-04-03 07:01:18 PM thively is there always an extra credit specialty chat on Wednesdays?
2013-04-03 07:01:18 PM lfrancois Goodnight
2013-04-03 07:01:18 PM tammy2012 left the chat room
2013-04-03 07:01:23 PM kmcooley me too ...so long...
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2013-04-03 07:01:32 PM cchase I do mine on Wednesday
2013-04-03 07:01:58 PM cchase check main student page for others
2013-04-03 07:02:06 PM thively someone told me there is one with kathy every tues and thurs and specialty every wed
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2013-04-03 07:02:18 PM cchase correct
2013-04-03 07:02:31 PM thively ok cool
2013-04-03 07:02:32 PM cchase email me and I will send you the schedule
2013-04-03 07:02:42 PM thively ok thanks!
2013-04-03 07:02:51 PM cchase good night - God bless
2013-04-03 07:02:56 PM thively night!
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2013-04-03 07:15:01 PM hhammondg I assume that I missed the Alzheimer's specialty chat?
2013-04-03 07:15:20 PM pknapp looks like it started at 7
2013-04-03 07:15:50 PM hhammondg The time difference is making me a little crazy...
2013-04-03 07:16:25 PM pknapp yeah, i'm in wisconsin, so i'll have to get on that too
2013-04-03 07:16:31 PM hhammondg At least I might be able to enter the chat more easily next time...
2013-04-03 07:16:54 PM pknapp good point, now at least we can get here! have a good night!
2013-04-03 07:17:10 PM hhammondg There was a clock that popped up somewhere...but I couldn't find it again!!! Next time...
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