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2015-09-30 06:41:05 PM primus3 some type of lighting maybe so he can see the sign
2015-09-30 06:41:05 PM joanf you could leave it on
2015-09-30 06:41:05 PM laurenmb Yes light in the bathroom is a good idea
2015-09-30 06:41:05 PM lovellagrace assist him going to the bathroom
2015-09-30 06:41:07 PM katew can you leave a light on in the bathroom and keep everything else dim so that it draws attention easily
2015-09-30 06:41:09 PM janfred73 sign is a good idea. I would try to go with him
2015-09-30 06:41:15 PM kandra1 I agree light in the bathroom night help
2015-09-30 06:41:24 PM cchase good thought on the light
2015-09-30 06:41:30 PM cchase that might help
2015-09-30 06:41:34 PM susieq4220 And maybe even a light with color... not a disco ball
2015-09-30 06:41:35 PM cchase more
2015-09-30 06:41:40 PM primus3 sign labelling the bathroom
2015-09-30 06:41:51 PM kendra3 i would get up and fgo in the bathroom and then adk him if he needs to go
2015-09-30 06:41:57 PM cchase getting warm with colors to help here folks
2015-09-30 06:42:02 PM jamiet1 how about a toileting plan
2015-09-30 06:42:02 PM tinab make sure he goes to the bathroom before bed
2015-09-30 06:42:05 PM kandra1 Does he know what happen?
2015-09-30 06:42:16 PM susieq4220 Colored toilet seat
2015-09-30 06:42:23 PM primus3 paint the door red?
2015-09-30 06:42:29 PM cchase good primus - lets think sign.. lets think colors
2015-09-30 06:42:30 PM primus3 bathroom door
2015-09-30 06:42:38 PM cchase yes primus - on the money
2015-09-30 06:42:43 PM jamiet1 tina should try to get him up and toilet him every 2 hours or so
2015-09-30 06:42:52 PM cchase the bathroom door was painted bright red.
2015-09-30 06:42:55 PM joanf i taped red duct tape on the edges for my dad
2015-09-30 06:42:57 PM katew position the bed where the bathroom is easily visible upon waking
2015-09-30 06:42:58 PM kendra3 oh yes red door!!!
2015-09-30 06:43:01 PM kimberly1 good
2015-09-30 06:43:04 PM joyceb Why red?
2015-09-30 06:43:05 PM susieq4220 and red toilet seat
2015-09-30 06:43:06 PM cchase the toilet was then set in a contrast background
2015-09-30 06:43:07 PM lovellagrace sign is a nice idea
2015-09-30 06:43:08 PM tinab stop sign on doors that don't lead to the bathroom
2015-09-30 06:43:11 PM primus3 red is the color we see
2015-09-30 06:43:13 PM cchase more though
2015-09-30 06:43:31 PM nancyzmc Different floor color as well
2015-09-30 06:43:40 PM cchase the wife stopped giving John his tea at nine in the evening
2015-09-30 06:43:57 PM nancyzmc Have the toilet seat more visible
2015-09-30 06:44:02 PM tinab no after meal drinks in the evening
2015-09-30 06:44:06 PM cchase to help him sleep without a full bladder
2015-09-30 06:44:08 PM kendra3 changeing his schedule of intake
2015-09-30 06:44:08 PM primus3 less gettingup at night with no tea
2015-09-30 06:44:10 PM jamiet1 Thats good ... is he on medicine that might make him go more often
2015-09-30 06:44:13 PM joanf direct him to the bathroom after his tea
2015-09-30 06:44:15 PM susieq4220 Remember in the movie Awakenings when the floor had a walkway
2015-09-30 06:44:16 PM kandra1 Have him use a urninal
2015-09-30 06:44:16 PM kimberly1 good
2015-09-30 06:44:34 PM sandyd The signs are great for the bathroom, wife could lead him to the bathroom and remind him he could go to the bathroom there if he needs to go again.
2015-09-30 06:44:35 PM laurenmb Are we sure he was looking for the bathroom? Maybe he got up for something else and didnt make it to the bathroom in time?
2015-09-30 06:44:35 PM janfred73 good ideas.
2015-09-30 06:44:36 PM cchase so soemthing like avoiding liquids and painting the door red worked
2015-09-30 06:44:47 PM cchase you enable him to be independent
2015-09-30 06:44:49 PM lovellagrace no diuretic med at night
2015-09-30 06:44:56 PM cchase thats the key here folks
2015-09-30 06:44:57 PM janfred73 we have a guy that keeps peeing in the common room behind our piano
2015-09-30 06:44:59 PM cchase enable them
2015-09-30 06:45:00 PM joyceb Have him sleep in the tub! (lol)
2015-09-30 06:45:00 PM susieq4220 Tile the floor with a pattern that invites a walkway
2015-09-30 06:45:13 PM cchase without them knowing you are doing that for them
2015-09-30 06:45:24 PM tinab exactly
2015-09-30 06:45:26 PM cchase well joyce.... hmmmmmm
2015-09-30 06:45:26 PM nancyzmc yes
2015-09-30 06:45:37 PM primus3 lol
2015-09-30 06:45:40 PM cchase patterns are not recommended
2015-09-30 06:45:47 PM janfred73 right, thats why you can't use an alarm that wakes you when he gets up
2015-09-30 06:45:50 PM laurenmb too much stimulation?
2015-09-30 06:46:01 PM jamiet1 might cause a fall
2015-09-30 06:46:04 PM cchase some folks with Alzheimer's have problems with patterns they get fixed on them
2015-09-30 06:46:11 PM tinab very confusing on the floor for them. They think it's stairs
2015-09-30 06:46:12 PM joanf patterns and lighting can cause it to look like dips or holes
2015-09-30 06:46:15 PM susieq4220 okay
2015-09-30 06:46:26 PM kandra1 I never knew that
2015-09-30 06:46:26 PM laurenmb visual field is also effected right?
2015-09-30 06:46:31 PM cchase right.... last case ready??
2015-09-30 06:46:35 PM lovellagrace ok
2015-09-30 06:46:36 PM tinab yes
2015-09-30 06:46:36 PM jamiet1 k
2015-09-30 06:46:37 PM sonjen ok
2015-09-30 06:46:38 PM tammyr yes
2015-09-30 06:46:39 PM kendra3 k
2015-09-30 06:46:39 PM kimberly1 ok
2015-09-30 06:46:40 PM laurenmb ok
2015-09-30 06:46:40 PM joyceb yes!
2015-09-30 06:46:43 PM kandra1 yes
2015-09-30 06:46:49 PM joanf ok
2015-09-30 06:46:50 PM primus3 go
2015-09-30 06:46:58 PM cchase Diane is in a LTC unit
2015-09-30 06:47:20 PM cchase she woke up at night and pulled the call button
2015-09-30 06:47:28 PM cchase when the nurse got there
2015-09-30 06:47:55 PM cchase Diane said she needed to get up... no reason ..just needed to get up
2015-09-30 06:48:11 PM laurenmb get ready for a walk...
2015-09-30 06:48:17 PM joanf is she in a dark room
2015-09-30 06:48:21 PM kendra3 confused on time
2015-09-30 06:48:23 PM lovellagrace re orient the resident
2015-09-30 06:48:24 PM cchase when the nurse went over to the bed... diane put her legs on the edge of the bed
2015-09-30 06:48:26 PM sonjen i would take her for a walk
2015-09-30 06:48:37 PM sandyd CChase: We have a lady that trys to climb on the dinning tables every day, rehab put her in a merry walker now, because of her poor vision, she is runing over other residents, so they took her out of the merry walker, will not sit still, help!
2015-09-30 06:48:39 PM cchase looked down then began to scream....what happened??
2015-09-30 06:48:53 PM kendra3 she had a nite terror??
2015-09-30 06:48:55 PM primus3 the floor pattern
2015-09-30 06:49:05 PM sonjen dark?
2015-09-30 06:49:05 PM susieq4220 ty primus
2015-09-30 06:49:06 PM primus3 thought she would fall
2015-09-30 06:49:09 PM cchase warm primus
2015-09-30 06:49:09 PM kandra1 Reasure her and stay and talk with her until she is ready to go back to bed
2015-09-30 06:49:10 PM janfred73 red carpet?
2015-09-30 06:49:10 PM jamiet1 who screamed
2015-09-30 06:49:11 PM joyceb hallucination
2015-09-30 06:49:13 PM lovellagrace she had a nightmare
2015-09-30 06:49:15 PM laurenmb She doesnt recognize her own legs?
2015-09-30 06:49:25 PM primus3 floor was dark?
2015-09-30 06:49:26 PM tinab bad memory
2015-09-30 06:49:28 PM kimberly1 scream
2015-09-30 06:49:31 PM cchase it was a scatter rug
2015-09-30 06:49:33 PM kendra3 depth percetion
2015-09-30 06:49:34 PM laurenmb A few of mine dont think they are the age they are
2015-09-30 06:49:37 PM janfred73 yeah, has old legs and thinks she is young
2015-09-30 06:49:37 PM cgbrown1977 Thought she was on the toilet?
2015-09-30 06:49:44 PM nancyzmc scatter rug?
2015-09-30 06:49:46 PM cchase nurse could not figure it out
2015-09-30 06:49:48 PM joanf remove the rug
2015-09-30 06:49:49 PM susieq4220 Looked like a puddle at her feet
2015-09-30 06:49:53 PM cchase yes scatter rug
2015-09-30 06:49:55 PM tinab thought that it was a hole
2015-09-30 06:49:59 PM tammyr remove the rug
2015-09-30 06:50:04 PM cchase resident saw it as a deep hole
2015-09-30 06:50:08 PM susieq4220 yep or a hole
2015-09-30 06:50:08 PM jamiet1 what is a scatter rud
2015-09-30 06:50:09 PM cchase she would fall in.
2015-09-30 06:50:09 PM oliviad what is a scatter rug?
2015-09-30 06:50:12 PM nancyzmc definitely remove the rug
2015-09-30 06:50:18 PM janfred73 poor thing
2015-09-30 06:50:23 PM kandra1 Move the rug
2015-09-30 06:50:24 PM kendra3 why was a scatter rug in a nursing home......safety hazard!!!!
2015-09-30 06:50:27 PM tammyr and the resident thought she was going to fall in :(
2015-09-30 06:50:27 PM kimberly1 how sad
2015-09-30 06:50:29 PM tinab small rug..you scatter them around
2015-09-30 06:50:32 PM joyceb Poor thing.
2015-09-30 06:50:32 PM cchase okay so showing my age... a small area rug
2015-09-30 06:50:36 PM laurenmb lights on, pick up rug show it to her
2015-09-30 06:50:43 PM nancyzmc gotcha
2015-09-30 06:50:44 PM katew lol
2015-09-30 06:50:54 PM kendra3 area rugs are a trip hazard get rid of them
2015-09-30 06:50:55 PM cchase ^o)
2015-09-30 06:50:56 PM tinab good fall hazard
2015-09-30 06:50:57 PM primus3 the nurse had to help her around it
2015-09-30 06:51:03 PM jamiet1 oh, well reassure her there is not a rug or remove the rug
2015-09-30 06:51:08 PM oliviad thank you. different part of the country.
2015-09-30 06:51:14 PM susieq4220 kick it under her bed or pick it up and take it away.
2015-09-30 06:51:19 PM lovellagrace turn on the light then re orient the resident.
2015-09-30 06:51:30 PM joyceb It's important to understand the diseasse so we can think like them in these situation so we can help them.
2015-09-30 06:51:33 PM cchase the nurse finally realized and grabbed it quick... out of sight...out of mind
2015-09-30 06:51:46 PM nancyzmc very good
2015-09-30 06:51:51 PM kandra1 good
2015-09-30 06:51:54 PM susieq4220 Some residents decorate their own rooms and don't like cold feet.
2015-09-30 06:51:55 PM jamiet1 oh good!
2015-09-30 06:52:02 PM lovellagrace i see
2015-09-30 06:52:04 PM janfred73 good
2015-09-30 06:52:12 PM cchase look for the simple things... there you might find the answer
2015-09-30 06:52:12 PM joyceb Thank goodness
2015-09-30 06:52:16 PM tinab that is what socks and shoes are for
2015-09-30 06:52:25 PM katew great case studys
2015-09-30 06:52:38 PM tammyr agree with katew
2015-09-30 06:52:38 PM nancyzmc we have an old, old building and many residents will step over a black demarcation in the floor because they think its a gap
2015-09-30 06:52:40 PM laurenmb what is the activities personnel part in these kind of things?
2015-09-30 06:52:43 PM cchase it may not make sense to you... you need to step into their world to truly help them
2015-09-30 06:52:47 PM susieq4220 I think we just have to think outside the box
2015-09-30 06:52:50 PM cchase thank you kate
2015-09-30 06:52:50 PM tinab I have residents stop if they get to different color flooring
2015-09-30 06:52:55 PM lovellagrace its true.
2015-09-30 06:52:59 PM kimberly1 yes
2015-09-30 06:53:02 PM jamiet1 I know my peers have faught dragons
2015-09-30 06:53:31 PM janfred73 made us think. :) Thanks!
2015-09-30 06:53:34 PM cchase yes jamie - I have fought many dragons over the years too!!!8-)
2015-09-30 06:53:44 PM sonjen Thanks cchase
2015-09-30 06:53:48 PM nancyzmc Not only their perceptions but their delustions
2015-09-30 06:53:51 PM tinab if you have a resident that used to work night shift they may wander at night
2015-09-30 06:53:54 PM joyceb Good conversations! Thank you cchase for all the info!
2015-09-30 06:53:59 PM susieq4220 Thank you for the discussion.
2015-09-30 06:54:00 PM joyceb And everyone else too!
2015-09-30 06:54:08 PM cchase so remember the emotions - and use them
2015-09-30 06:54:12 PM laurenmb Thank you
2015-09-30 06:54:13 PM primus3 yes
2015-09-30 06:54:14 PM cchase remember to redirect
2015-09-30 06:54:15 PM jamiet1 will do!
2015-09-30 06:54:16 PM nancyzmc Thank you Ms. Chase and everyone
2015-09-30 06:54:16 PM primus3 thank you
2015-09-30 06:54:17 PM kimberly1 yes
2015-09-30 06:54:23 PM kimberly1 yes
2015-09-30 06:54:28 PM sandyd Thanks Cchase
2015-09-30 06:54:28 PM cchase remember to enable them without them knowing
2015-09-30 06:54:30 PM tammyr very productive tonight. thank you everyone!!!
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2015-09-30 06:54:32 PM tinab and validate
2015-09-30 06:54:35 PM kandra1 Thank you I learned alot
2015-09-30 06:54:38 PM joyceb Stay calm, redirect, use emotions.
2015-09-30 06:54:45 PM primus3 thank you cchase
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2015-09-30 06:54:47 PM jamiet1 Thanks this was a lot better to fallow than last night
2015-09-30 06:54:54 PM cchase welcome - I do an adult day chat next wed..hope you come!!
2015-09-30 06:54:55 PM joanf good night
2015-09-30 06:54:58 PM lovellagrace thanks
2015-09-30 06:55:00 PM katew nice recap of the take aways
2015-09-30 06:55:05 PM tinab this was good
2015-09-30 06:55:06 PM nancyzmc thank you
2015-09-30 06:55:09 PM katew see you next Wednesday.
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2015-09-30 06:55:14 PM kandra1 Will try to be there
2015-09-30 06:55:17 PM oliviad This was very helpful at the daycare where I work we are getting more and more clients with dementia and alz.
2015-09-30 06:55:19 PM kimberly1 great
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2015-09-30 06:55:25 PM cchase welcome - keep doing what you do for all those folks- you are are a gift to them
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2015-09-30 06:55:27 PM jamiet1 chat next week.. thanks for the insights
2015-09-30 06:55:30 PM oliviad see you next wed definitely
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2015-09-30 06:55:34 PM tammyr goodnight everyone
2015-09-30 06:55:34 PM cchase (})
2015-09-30 06:55:35 PM laurenmb Good night everyone
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2015-09-30 06:55:40 PM kendra3 night all!
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2015-09-30 06:55:42 PM nancyzmc Good night
2015-09-30 06:55:43 PM jamiet1 night!
2015-09-30 06:55:44 PM tinab Thanks CChase...
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2015-09-30 06:55:49 PM cchase welcome
2015-09-30 06:55:54 PM joyceb Goodnight everyone! Thanks again!
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2015-09-30 06:56:04 PM tinab Good night all
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2015-09-30 06:56:24 PM lovellagrace cchase: i have a question. One of my resident repeat words the whole day. and i tried to redirect her but she keeps on talking the whole time
2015-09-30 06:56:43 PM tinab ipod with music
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2015-09-30 06:57:03 PM tinab find out what music she likes and try loading that
2015-09-30 06:57:16 PM cchase we have one that repeats as well
2015-09-30 06:57:35 PM tinab she may sing after that!
2015-09-30 06:57:43 PM cchase no getting them to stop by design - you need to find what will keep them engaged
2015-09-30 06:57:57 PM lovellagrace yeah that is what i am thinking she might sing the whole day
2015-09-30 06:58:07 PM lovellagrace some of the residents get annoy already
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2015-09-30 06:58:38 PM tinab laugh and the world laughs with you, sing and the world yells BE QUIEY!!
2015-09-30 06:58:39 PM cchase we found that when we gave him a headset with Beatles music....he stopped repeating and simply listen for a while without repeating...he was singing...
2015-09-30 06:58:53 PM tinab quiet
2015-09-30 06:58:56 PM lovellagrace i will try that
2015-09-30 06:59:00 PM cchase not sure his singing was a hit though... a bit off key
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2015-09-30 06:59:28 PM cchase keep trying - keep searching...it's like a mystery looking to be solved
2015-09-30 06:59:32 PM lovellagrace she played bingo and she keeps on repeating the numbers
2015-09-30 06:59:39 PM lovellagrace thank you so much for your advice
2015-09-30 06:59:44 PM lovellagrace good night
2015-09-30 06:59:46 PM tinab I've had ones that talked to themselves or those they thought were next to them all day
2015-09-30 06:59:56 PM cchase welcome.. let me know how it worked out
2015-09-30 07:00:02 PM lovellagrace i will
2015-09-30 07:00:05 PM tinab Good night!
2015-09-30 07:00:14 PM cchase good night - God bless
2015-09-30 07:00:14 PM lovellagrace good night
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