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2016-06-29 06:48:33 PM sashavowell left the chat room
2016-06-29 06:48:33 PM jackie26 yes
2016-06-29 06:48:33 PM sfuentes yes
2016-06-29 06:48:39 PM scomeau they see us more then their families too
2016-06-29 06:48:44 PM cchase pls remember this
2016-06-29 06:48:47 PM jwhite correct
2016-06-29 06:48:49 PM jackie26 ok
2016-06-29 06:48:53 PM jwhite ok
2016-06-29 06:48:56 PM teaves ok
2016-06-29 06:48:57 PM awatts ready
2016-06-29 06:48:58 PM dianed72 Oh most definitely.
2016-06-29 06:48:59 PM cchase although they are all about feelings
2016-06-29 06:49:00 PM scomeau ok
2016-06-29 06:49:11 PM cchase remember that they are adults and not children
2016-06-29 06:49:15 PM jackie26 true
2016-06-29 06:49:18 PM jwhite yes
2016-06-29 06:49:18 PM scomeau so true
2016-06-29 06:49:19 PM cchase do not treat them like children
2016-06-29 06:49:25 PM scomeau dignity dignity dignity
2016-06-29 06:49:31 PM cchase that is responded with resentment
2016-06-29 06:49:31 PM sfuentes even some time they have better behavior with us, in not with their own family
2016-06-29 06:49:32 PM jackie26 i do not
2016-06-29 06:49:32 PM edithl yes that is very important , totally agree, dignity
2016-06-29 06:49:33 PM 10924 a lot of people forget that
2016-06-29 06:49:42 PM awatts neveer treat them like children it is disrespectful and wrong
2016-06-29 06:49:48 PM 300494 and they are all not hard of hearing
2016-06-29 06:49:52 PM scomeau absolutely
2016-06-29 06:49:52 PM jillm scomeau - spot on!
2016-06-29 06:49:58 PM teaves i never do, i look at them as being my mother, my grandfather, etc
2016-06-29 06:50:04 PM jwhite true!!!
2016-06-29 06:50:06 PM dianed72 same here
2016-06-29 06:50:07 PM cchase I see soooo many... speaking like they are talking to a child
2016-06-29 06:50:09 PM teaves dignity
2016-06-29 06:50:12 PM awatts dignity and respect
2016-06-29 06:50:15 PM sfuentes dignity
2016-06-29 06:50:15 PM 10924 ^yes so many women tell me how offended they were that cnas were shouting when speaking to them
2016-06-29 06:50:17 PM teaves thats awful
2016-06-29 06:50:17 PM cchase that would be a huge NOOOOO
2016-06-29 06:50:17 PM edithl i do the same thing teaves
2016-06-29 06:50:27 PM jackie26 yep
2016-06-29 06:50:28 PM scomeau sign of abuse
2016-06-29 06:50:40 PM teaves i can honestly say that doesn't take place where i work
2016-06-29 06:50:42 PM dianed72 You learn who is hard of hearing and who isn't
2016-06-29 06:50:50 PM dianed72 not everyone
2016-06-29 06:50:52 PM cchase yes it is abusive...it is also the bases for behavior issues
2016-06-29 06:50:54 PM jackie26 they like to be call as Mr or Mrs
2016-06-29 06:50:58 PM 300494 i hate the remember I TOLD YOU that!
2016-06-29 06:51:10 PM sfuentes or some staff argue with them tryig to convince them they are wrong
2016-06-29 06:51:11 PM sashavowell enter the chat room
2016-06-29 06:51:21 PM teaves well some of my residents prefer you to call them by their first name
2016-06-29 06:51:26 PM sashavowell lost connection stupid storm finally
2016-06-29 06:51:29 PM awatts never tell a resident they are wrong
2016-06-29 06:51:29 PM cchase jackie.. if I may...ask them to call you by name
2016-06-29 06:51:36 PM dianed72 I use sir or maam. Southern girl
2016-06-29 06:51:42 PM 300494 just like the customer is always right, they are right and we need to find another way around it
2016-06-29 06:51:45 PM sashavowell me to dianed
2016-06-29 06:52:03 PM awatts mine have a nickname for me "Angel"
2016-06-29 06:52:04 PM sashavowell you never get on to them like childrean
2016-06-29 06:52:04 PM jackie26 they call me by my nams, but they want me to call them as Mr or Mrs
2016-06-29 06:52:07 PM cchase good...step into there world
2016-06-29 06:52:09 PM jwhite we use there name
2016-06-29 06:52:19 PM scomeau sometimes calling them by their last name can trigger them because they might not remember that ast name
2016-06-29 06:52:24 PM 10924 I usually try to ask them which they like better
2016-06-29 06:52:25 PM jwhite can not use sweetie hun any of that
2016-06-29 06:52:35 PM jwhite unless it is in the careplan
2016-06-29 06:52:47 PM cchase I would opt to ask them to call me by name... Mr. or Mrs. is formal implies that you are authority
2016-06-29 06:52:48 PM dianed72 oh no... I have been yelled out by some women when i used their last name.
2016-06-29 06:52:48 PM teaves no unless they tell you to call them that, well thats what my don told us
2016-06-29 06:52:50 PM sashavowell why??
2016-06-29 06:52:50 PM edithl i never do , i saw what used to happen wit my mother in law, my husband was so distraut at his mothers disease that he would try to tel her that it was not the way she remenbered , she used to get sad and cry so he stopped of course
2016-06-29 06:52:56 PM dianed72 They didn't remember being married.
2016-06-29 06:53:00 PM sfuentes we use the name or nickname, is one of the questions in our initial assessment
2016-06-29 06:53:04 PM cchase you need to get close to them emotionally
2016-06-29 06:53:16 PM jwhite yep preferred name
2016-06-29 06:53:25 PM cchase to use the bond... to achieve the behavior you are wanting
2016-06-29 06:53:32 PM scomeau absolutely
2016-06-29 06:53:36 PM dianed72 yes
2016-06-29 06:53:36 PM jackie26 they call me jackie and i am happy with that
2016-06-29 06:53:39 PM awatts we go by their preferred name
2016-06-29 06:53:58 PM cchase any questions folks
2016-06-29 06:54:06 PM jwhite where are you from
2016-06-29 06:54:08 PM jillm nope
2016-06-29 06:54:16 PM scomeau no thank you celeste
2016-06-29 06:54:17 PM cchase mass
2016-06-29 06:54:17 PM sashavowell nope thank you!!
2016-06-29 06:54:19 PM teaves none that i can think of
2016-06-29 06:54:25 PM jwhite got ysa
2016-06-29 06:54:30 PM edithl no, thank you!
2016-06-29 06:54:31 PM awatts cchase i still need to talk with you about a few other issues at my work. ill email you later ok
2016-06-29 06:54:32 PM dianed72 Still processing.
2016-06-29 06:54:46 PM jackie26 thaks celeste
2016-06-29 06:54:47 PM 300494 thank you
2016-06-29 06:54:48 PM sfuentes no thanks the time fly was at excelent chat
2016-06-29 06:54:50 PM 10924 I don't think so! Learned a lot tonight
2016-06-29 06:54:54 PM cchase I will moderate adult day health chat next week..hhope to see you there
2016-06-29 06:55:00 PM cchase yes... email me anytime
2016-06-29 06:55:07 PM sfuentes Thanks Celeste
2016-06-29 06:55:13 PM edithl thanks Celeste
2016-06-29 06:55:13 PM jackie26 for extra credit?
2016-06-29 06:55:14 PM awatts thanks cchase
2016-06-29 06:55:15 PM jwhite that next wednesday?
2016-06-29 06:55:17 PM dianed72 Thank you.
2016-06-29 06:55:18 PM jillm thank you!
2016-06-29 06:55:28 PM awatts good night all it was a great session
2016-06-29 06:55:33 PM cchase wonderful ... go an send out positive emotions
2016-06-29 06:55:39 PM jackie26 night night
2016-06-29 06:55:41 PM cchase (})
2016-06-29 06:55:41 PM sashavowell good night yall
2016-06-29 06:55:45 PM sashavowell thank you
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2016-06-29 06:55:49 PM scomeau (v)
2016-06-29 06:55:52 PM edithl good night all, blessings!
2016-06-29 06:55:52 PM dianed72 Most definitely... HAPPY THOUGHTS!!!!!!
2016-06-29 06:55:56 PM 300494 good night (Tp)
2016-06-29 06:56:00 PM sfuentes good night everyone
2016-06-29 06:56:07 PM teaves good night everyone
2016-06-29 06:56:08 PM scomeau have a great day tomorrow
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2016-06-29 06:56:22 PM jwhite good night
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2016-06-29 07:50:37 PM sggarcia oh no did i totally miss out on this conversation
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2016-07-07 05:58:39 PM vauriemmo hi is this specialty chat
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2016-07-13 07:03:18 PM nancy1 Hello...I have just located the magic "bubble"...obviously, I haven't got a lot of "chatting" experience..."I'll be back."
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2016-07-27 05:35:44 PM vstephens enter the chat room
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2016-07-27 05:55:12 PM tsweeting Is the chat tonight?
2016-07-27 05:55:35 PM cchase enter the chat room
2016-07-27 05:55:50 PM cchase yes this is tonight's chat
2016-07-27 05:56:01 PM cchase how are you all doing
2016-07-27 05:56:11 PM tsweeting Great!!! You?
2016-07-27 05:56:30 PM cchase weather is very hot... here
2016-07-27 05:56:44 PM tsweeting Same here in Illinois, very muggy
2016-07-27 05:56:59 PM cchase need some AC
2016-07-27 05:57:14 PM tsweeting Lol, yeah mine is cranked to the max
2016-07-27 05:57:41 PM cchase I should go back to work to take advantage of AC
2016-07-27 05:57:58 PM cchase Hub may not appreciate that :D
2016-07-27 05:58:21 PM tsweeting No joke, our unit is still new so the AC is awesome
2016-07-27 05:58:45 PM teaves enter the chat room
2016-07-27 05:58:53 PM teaves hello everyone
2016-07-27 05:58:59 PM tsweeting Hello teaves
2016-07-27 05:59:00 PM elimazeg enter the chat room
2016-07-27 05:59:03 PM cchase sooo jealous...our builder told us that we would not need..being so close to ocean....but not so true
2016-07-27 05:59:09 PM cchase hello there folks
2016-07-27 05:59:13 PM cchase welcome
2016-07-27 05:59:35 PM cchase tonight we are chatting about Alzheimer's/dementia
2016-07-27 05:59:41 PM tsweeting I'm jealous you are close to the ocean, all we have is corn fields :P
2016-07-27 05:59:50 PM cchase love corn
2016-07-27 05:59:55 PM teaves me too
2016-07-27 05:59:57 PM elimazeg Hello every one
2016-07-27 06:00:02 PM cchase hello there
2016-07-27 06:00:06 PM teaves hey
2016-07-27 06:00:10 PM kathyw enter the chat room
2016-07-27 06:00:15 PM kathyw hello
2016-07-27 06:00:32 PM teaves hey
2016-07-27 06:00:42 PM vstephens hello everyone
2016-07-27 06:00:59 PM cchase can you all pls tell me what class your in
2016-07-27 06:01:08 PM tsweeting Lol
2016-07-27 06:01:16 PM teaves mepap 1 week 13
2016-07-27 06:01:17 PM vstephens MEPAP 2 050316
2016-07-27 06:01:23 PM kathyw Mepap1 - 060716
2016-07-27 06:01:25 PM teaves 050316
2016-07-27 06:01:29 PM tsweeting MEPAP 2 050316
2016-07-27 06:01:41 PM elimazeg MEPAP1-060716
2016-07-27 06:01:58 PM cchase is this your first Alzheimer's topic chat
2016-07-27 06:02:07 PM teaves no this is my 2nd one
2016-07-27 06:02:17 PM elimazeg FOR me? yes
2016-07-27 06:02:19 PM cchase Great
2016-07-27 06:02:19 PM kathyw yes
2016-07-27 06:02:27 PM vstephens no
2016-07-27 06:02:35 PM tsweeting I attended one while I was in MEPAP 1
2016-07-27 06:02:51 PM cchase so I was thinking of something different in this chat
2016-07-27 06:02:58 PM cchase are you all up for it?
2016-07-27 06:02:59 PM vstephens ok
2016-07-27 06:03:03 PM teaves yes
2016-07-27 06:03:05 PM tsweeting SUre am
2016-07-27 06:03:10 PM kathyw ok
2016-07-27 06:03:42 PM elimazeg yes
2016-07-27 06:03:57 PM cchase super - so can the students that have already attended previous class tell our newbies something they learned in the first Alz/s chat??
2016-07-27 06:04:29 PM teaves classical music helps with wandering residents
2016-07-27 06:04:47 PM vstephens It is not reversable you have to reorient to day place and time
2016-07-27 06:05:09 PM cchase explain reorient pls
2016-07-27 06:05:28 PM teaves don't argue with them because in their mind they are right
2016-07-27 06:05:40 PM cchase good one teaves
2016-07-27 06:05:41 PM vstephens that you have to let them know what day it is where they are at and what time it is
2016-07-27 06:06:05 PM tsweeting Always explain the why to each time you activity
2016-07-27 06:06:15 PM cchase how do you present that information to them??
2016-07-27 06:06:44 PM cchase yes - always explain what your going to do...
2016-07-27 06:06:52 PM cchase time and time again
2016-07-27 06:07:01 PM vstephens as a group when I do the activity I let them know what day it is what time and what activity they will be in
2016-07-27 06:07:13 PM tsweeting I explain in great detail what I am going to do and what the expectations of the group is
2016-07-27 06:07:23 PM cchase good vstephens...
2016-07-27 06:07:31 PM teaves i do the same vstephens
2016-07-27 06:07:47 PM vstephens good teaves
2016-07-27 06:08:01 PM cchase when you explain ...think about "chunking" the information
2016-07-27 06:08:11 PM elimazeg We have in the facility information on the wall that say what's day, the temperature, and if it is a holyday and of course what day of the week we are
2016-07-27 06:08:14 PM teaves simple sentences
2016-07-27 06:08:31 PM vstephens yes
2016-07-27 06:08:46 PM cchase yes. good keep it simple KIS???
2016-07-27 06:09:08 PM cchase have you all heard about "chunking"??
2016-07-27 06:09:27 PM kathyw no
2016-07-27 06:09:30 PM elimazeg i don't ({)
2016-07-27 06:09:33 PM vstephens no
2016-07-27 06:09:40 PM teaves i dont think i have
2016-07-27 06:09:44 PM cchase so cute elimazeg
2016-07-27 06:10:15 PM cchase that is the term often used to explain...breaking down steps
2016-07-27 06:10:23 PM cchase like....
2016-07-27 06:10:32 PM cchase open the cabinet door
2016-07-27 06:10:43 PM cchase take the cup
2016-07-27 06:10:50 PM cchase put the cup on the counter
2016-07-27 06:11:06 PM tsweeting Don't make things over complicated when it comes to alzheimers patients
2016-07-27 06:11:14 PM cchase right!
2016-07-27 06:11:35 PM teaves speak clearly and don't yell, address them by their names to get their attention
2016-07-27 06:11:42 PM cchase when too much information is given..they so easily get confused
2016-07-27 06:11:51 PM vstephens yes do not overwhelm them and take your time talking to them
2016-07-27 06:12:01 PM cchase good teaves
2016-07-27 06:12:20 PM cchase what else??
2016-07-27 06:12:30 PM teaves i have one resident that it takes a few minutes to process what you say before she responds
2016-07-27 06:12:44 PM tsweeting Also, allow them to work slowly at their own pace, let them get used to the activity
2016-07-27 06:12:46 PM vstephens allow them time to respond
2016-07-27 06:13:06 PM cchase yes...very good..allow time to process
2016-07-27 06:13:15 PM elimazeg I've a new resident and she is always crying because she doesn't know why she is here, and honestly I don't have the right words to make her comfortable
2016-07-27 06:13:24 PM angela enter the chat room
2016-07-27 06:13:44 PM angela hello everyone
2016-07-27 06:13:49 PM teaves hey
2016-07-27 06:13:50 PM vstephens hi angela
2016-07-27 06:14:05 PM cchase so what advice would you all give for the one that doesn't know why she is there??
2016-07-27 06:14:13 PM cchase hello angela welcome
2016-07-27 06:14:41 PM vstephens I would tell her her family wanted to make sure that she was in a safe place
2016-07-27 06:14:48 PM angela thanks
2016-07-27 06:15:15 PM elimazeg okey
2016-07-27 06:15:16 PM teaves she was in a safe place and to make sure she was taking care of 24 hours a day
2016-07-27 06:15:23 PM vstephens yes
2016-07-27 06:15:38 PM cchase what if she does not FEEL safe
2016-07-27 06:15:41 PM tsweeting That we would work hard to maintain a routine to help familiarize them to the unit
2016-07-27 06:16:01 PM cchase good tsweeting
2016-07-27 06:16:02 PM elimazeg I think she doesn't feel safe, she said that she was safe at home
2016-07-27 06:16:09 PM teaves ask her what is making her feel not safe
2016-07-27 06:16:36 PM cchase can she tell you what doesn't allow her to feel safe
2016-07-27 06:17:06 PM teaves some of my residents say then feel safe at night with their room door closed
2016-07-27 06:17:19 PM vstephens Be sure to reassure her she is in a safe place you would be by every weekday to check on her untilshe feels better
2016-07-27 06:17:27 PM teaves call light within reach also makes them feel safe
2016-07-27 06:17:35 PM cchase good vstephens
2016-07-27 06:17:50 PM cchase how about her room
2016-07-27 06:18:04 PM cchase what can you do there to help her??
2016-07-27 06:18:04 PM vstephens I have other residents sit with new residents to make them feel better
2016-07-27 06:18:14 PM tsweeting Hang pictures of her family she remembers
2016-07-27 06:18:19 PM cchase good
2016-07-27 06:18:23 PM cchase what else
2016-07-27 06:18:27 PM vstephens help her start a memory book
2016-07-27 06:18:28 PM teaves orient her to the room, her unit, call light/bell
2016-07-27 06:18:44 PM vstephens introduce her to those close to her room
2016-07-27 06:18:46 PM elimazeg yes, I got good conversations with her
2016-07-27 06:18:54 PM cchase how about asking her family to bring in things from her room at home
2016-07-27 06:18:55 PM vstephens nice
2016-07-27 06:19:16 PM elimazeg she is in the alzheimer area
2016-07-27 06:19:21 PM vstephens pictures and knick knacks work well for my residents
2016-07-27 06:19:22 PM cchase blanket, pillows that are familiar
2016-07-27 06:19:24 PM kathyw thats a good idea
2016-07-27 06:19:40 PM cchase yup...
2016-07-27 06:19:48 PM elimazeg Thank you
2016-07-27 06:20:12 PM elimazeg I'll going to make her feel comfortable
2016-07-27 06:20:25 PM cchase if shefeel sees things that may feel familiar...she may less unsafe
2016-07-27 06:20:55 PM cchase our Alzheimer's unit always asked family for things from home
2016-07-27 06:21:03 PM teaves make sure she has things to do in her room, like music, tv, books, magazines,etc
2016-07-27 06:21:10 PM elimazeg I'll ask her doughter bring me some home stuff
2016-07-27 06:21:17 PM vstephens and what is his/her favorite music
2016-07-27 06:21:33 PM cchase yup...good ...redirect with music, magazines, etc
2016-07-27 06:21:45 PM elimazeg okey thank you all
2016-07-27 06:21:46 PM kathyw music works wonders
2016-07-27 06:21:52 PM vstephens yes it does
2016-07-27 06:22:13 PM cchase be sure to check in with floor supervisor to be sure that it is permitted for you to ask the family for this
2016-07-27 06:22:32 PM elimazeg Okey I will
2016-07-27 06:22:37 PM cchase okay..so what about behaviors
2016-07-27 06:22:55 PM cchase what can the experienced students tell the newbies
2016-07-27 06:23:17 PM vstephens try to redirect with cues
2016-07-27 06:23:56 PM teaves sometimes a behavior might mean they are hungry, tired, need to use the bathroom
2016-07-27 06:24:25 PM cchase correct
2016-07-27 06:24:41 PM tsweeting There is bitting involved even if it is not malicious
2016-07-27 06:24:54 PM cchase how does that behavior present?
2016-07-27 06:25:11 PM teaves if they start wandering, don't tell them no don't go there, try to redirect by saying this go over here
2016-07-27 06:26:00 PM cchase yes... do not speak to them like you would a child...do not say No don't go there
2016-07-27 06:26:09 PM vstephens why are they bitting? what was happening before they did that? you have to look at each as a new problem to be solved
2016-07-27 06:26:17 PM tsweeting An example of mine was with our nurse as she was helping an alzhiemers patient in the bathroom, he became scared and bite the staff out of fear
2016-07-27 06:26:31 PM cchase good vstephens
2016-07-27 06:26:50 PM vstephens maybe they were going faster than he was comfortable with
2016-07-27 06:27:13 PM cchase maybe they were simple not the right personn to escort her to the bathroom
2016-07-27 06:27:20 PM vstephens truw
2016-07-27 06:27:23 PM vstephens true
2016-07-27 06:27:27 PM tsweeting Exactly, and this was an issue we discussed with our NP and we altered our process
2016-07-27 06:27:31 PM teaves maybe too many people
2016-07-27 06:27:35 PM kathyw yes
2016-07-27 06:27:45 PM cchase it's complex
2016-07-27 06:27:55 PM cchase sometimes we do all the right things
2016-07-27 06:27:58 PM tsweeting very much so
2016-07-27 06:28:04 PM vstephens yes
2016-07-27 06:28:11 PM cchase but we are just not the right person for that moment
2016-07-27 06:28:17 PM cchase it's not personal
2016-07-27 06:28:23 PM elimazeg exactly
2016-07-27 06:28:25 PM tsweeting Exaclty
2016-07-27 06:28:27 PM teaves right
2016-07-27 06:28:31 PM vstephens yes
2016-07-27 06:28:42 PM cchase always be willing to trade off to your co worker
2016-07-27 06:28:58 PM cchase play off each other to get the task done
2016-07-27 06:29:18 PM tsweeting And be sure to pass the information along to the next shift and care givers
2016-07-27 06:29:40 PM cchase yes...communication is a wonderful thing

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