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2015-02-17 05:47:17 PM robina when is the next specialty chat?
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2015-02-25 06:47:39 PM katew Is there a specialty chat tonight?
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2015-02-25 06:55:19 PM cchase enter the chat room
2015-02-25 06:55:29 PM cchase hello hello
2015-02-25 06:55:40 PM katew hello
2015-02-25 06:55:46 PM katew I was getting worried.
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2015-02-25 06:56:00 PM cchase what tune is it?
2015-02-25 06:56:02 PM katew glad to know I am in the right place at the right time
2015-02-25 06:56:26 PM cchase He...he
2015-02-25 06:56:36 PM cchase well and so you are!!
2015-02-25 06:56:57 PM katew How are you this evening?
2015-02-25 06:57:02 PM cchase this is a specialty chat you will earn extra credit for participating
2015-02-25 06:57:06 PM patlec enter the chat room
2015-02-25 06:57:13 PM ileanaa After missing the one last night I'm glad I can make this one
2015-02-25 06:57:17 PM cchase hey there - hello
2015-02-25 06:57:29 PM ileanaa hello
2015-02-25 06:57:33 PM patlec HI Everyone
2015-02-25 06:57:42 PM katew hiya
2015-02-25 06:57:43 PM cchase glad you can make it too!
2015-02-25 06:58:02 PM marym Hello
2015-02-25 06:58:04 PM patlec almost at the finish line
2015-02-25 06:58:05 PM ileanaa thanks
2015-02-25 06:58:31 PM cchase we have been getting some serious snow our way -- over 100" the last month and half
2015-02-25 06:58:44 PM katew where are you? I am in NH
2015-02-25 06:58:49 PM patlec ny
2015-02-25 06:58:50 PM cchase whew I am done
2015-02-25 06:58:51 PM ileanaa freezing rain here
2015-02-25 06:58:56 PM cchase in Massachusetts
2015-02-25 06:59:06 PM cchase where in NH
2015-02-25 06:59:13 PM katew Londonderry
2015-02-25 06:59:19 PM katew but work in Andover
2015-02-25 06:59:29 PM marym Snow here starting at 2AM in Maryland
2015-02-25 06:59:30 PM arlene enter the chat room
2015-02-25 06:59:30 PM katew Where in Mass for you?
2015-02-25 06:59:41 PM cchase okay - you live near my mother-in-laws house in NH
2015-02-25 06:59:44 PM arlene hi everyone
2015-02-25 06:59:54 PM ileanaa hi
2015-02-25 06:59:58 PM cchase Norwell
2015-02-25 07:00:04 PM katew there are good neighbors in NH
2015-02-25 07:00:05 PM cchase hello
2015-02-25 07:00:17 PM cchase yes - good people in NH
2015-02-25 07:00:22 PM arlene HOWS EVERYONE'S WEATHER ON YOUR HOME STATE
2015-02-25 07:00:28 PM cchase :D
2015-02-25 07:00:39 PM arlene OURS IS GOING TO BE NEAGTIVE AGAIN
2015-02-25 07:00:41 PM patlec we have black ice in ny
2015-02-25 07:01:15 PM patlec frozen tundra of dirty snow
2015-02-25 07:01:18 PM arlene I MISSED OUR CHAT Y
2015-02-25 07:01:22 PM arlene LAST NIGHT
2015-02-25 07:01:30 PM katew it was a good one
2015-02-25 07:01:32 PM patlec last nights was good i learned a lot
2015-02-25 07:01:33 PM ileanaa me too
2015-02-25 07:01:44 PM cchase what was last nights chat?
2015-02-25 07:01:48 PM arlene I KNOW AND i MISSED IT
2015-02-25 07:01:54 PM katew sorry
2015-02-25 07:02:01 PM arlene THATS OK
2015-02-25 07:02:05 PM katew We talked about a ton of stuff
2015-02-25 07:02:10 PM katew It was our weekly with Kathy
2015-02-25 07:02:13 PM patlec everyone is going to give out toliet paper for bingo prizes lol
2015-02-25 07:02:14 PM cchase what did you lean
2015-02-25 07:02:17 PM katew lol
2015-02-25 07:02:21 PM cchase learn
2015-02-25 07:02:40 PM patlec naccp has a pintrest page
2015-02-25 07:02:41 PM arlene LOL
2015-02-25 07:02:41 PM katew Ideas for lent
2015-02-25 07:02:43 PM cchase what! will have to ask Kathy about that
2015-02-25 07:02:53 PM cchase great!
2015-02-25 07:02:54 PM patlec and I learned I need to make 7 up biscuits
2015-02-25 07:03:08 PM arlene 7 UP BISCUIT?
2015-02-25 07:03:08 PM katew left the chat room
2015-02-25 07:03:15 PM cchase so tonight I hope to pass on some info on Alzheimer's/Dementia
2015-02-25 07:03:19 PM arlene THAT SOUNDS GOOD THOUGH
2015-02-25 07:03:33 PM arlene OK
2015-02-25 07:03:37 PM patlec ready
2015-02-25 07:03:41 PM arlene YES
2015-02-25 07:03:46 PM marym Good
2015-02-25 07:03:56 PM cchase let's start with you all telling me something you already know about Alz/dementia please
2015-02-25 07:04:07 PM ileanaa I just saw the movie Still Alice
2015-02-25 07:04:10 PM katew enter the chat room
2015-02-25 07:04:15 PM cchase good movie
2015-02-25 07:04:19 PM katew i think my computer kicked me out
2015-02-25 07:04:25 PM arlene LOL
2015-02-25 07:04:29 PM patlec dementia falls under the umbrella of Alz
2015-02-25 07:04:32 PM cchase yes it seems to have done that
2015-02-25 07:04:34 PM arlene I NEVER SEE THAT YET
2015-02-25 07:04:38 PM cchase :)
2015-02-25 07:04:40 PM ileanaa There's no cure and it's proressive
2015-02-25 07:05:03 PM patlec many types of dementia
2015-02-25 07:05:04 PM cchase correct dementia is a symptom of Alz
2015-02-25 07:05:06 PM katew Is there a question we are answering?
2015-02-25 07:05:15 PM marym There are different levels
2015-02-25 07:05:19 PM cchase also correct many types of dementia
2015-02-25 07:05:27 PM arlene I READ THAT DRINKING TO MUCH POP DRINK WILL SAUSED DEMENTIA AND aLZHEIMERS
2015-02-25 07:05:35 PM cchase what do you already know aboout Alz/dementia
2015-02-25 07:05:35 PM ileanaa different stages
2015-02-25 07:05:38 PM arlene CAUSED
2015-02-25 07:05:48 PM cchase yes different stages good
2015-02-25 07:06:01 PM katew People can still learning
2015-02-25 07:06:02 PM cchase caused?? what do you mean arlene
2015-02-25 07:06:05 PM katew learn
2015-02-25 07:06:19 PM patlec it is easy for some to hide it in the beginning stages from family'
2015-02-25 07:06:19 PM katew procedural memory
2015-02-25 07:06:48 PM cchase yes that's also true they can and will hide in the beginning
2015-02-25 07:07:08 PM patlec I get confused with Lewy bodies dementia
2015-02-25 07:07:10 PM arlene THEY SAID THAT THE CHEMICALS FROM POP DRINKS WILL CAUSES DEMENTIA LIKE DRINKING TO MUCH ALCHOL
2015-02-25 07:07:18 PM arlene i MEAN HEAVY DRINKER
2015-02-25 07:07:21 PM katew People often lose memories based on when they experienced something. Last in first out
2015-02-25 07:07:32 PM patlec does the person always have parkinsons with Lewy bodies?
2015-02-25 07:07:36 PM katew arlene, I have never heard that
2015-02-25 07:07:52 PM cchase they have lots of theories about how we come down with it for sure
2015-02-25 07:07:53 PM arlene ME TOO TILL I RWAD IT
2015-02-25 07:08:02 PM arlene GOOGLE IT SOMETIMES
2015-02-25 07:08:04 PM marym Do you think they don't know what's happen in the beginning?
2015-02-25 07:08:06 PM katew There can be just lewy body dementia without parkinson's
2015-02-25 07:08:16 PM cchase there is a dementia causedd by drinking excessively
2015-02-25 07:08:24 PM cchase this is not Alzheimer's
2015-02-25 07:08:31 PM patlec I never new anyone that just had lewy bodies
2015-02-25 07:08:45 PM katew My Grandmother
2015-02-25 07:09:02 PM cchase yes - lewy bodies and parkinson's also suffer from dementia
2015-02-25 07:09:12 PM arlene YOU KOW i FORGOT WHAT IS THE CAUSE OF LEWY BODIES NOW
2015-02-25 07:09:23 PM cchase which is common in those with Alzs
2015-02-25 07:09:39 PM patlec it effects the same part of the brain as parkinsons
2015-02-25 07:10:22 PM katew lewy bodies is the formation that deteriates the brain material-similar to the plaques and tangles of ALZ
2015-02-25 07:10:22 PM patlec Is vascular dementia reversible
2015-02-25 07:10:25 PM cchase the cause of lewy bodies is not exactly known
2015-02-25 07:10:34 PM cchase yes
2015-02-25 07:10:57 PM patlec yes, to vascular dementia
2015-02-25 07:11:11 PM arlene I'M JUST WONDERING WHY aLZHEIMERS/DEMENTIA IS SO RARE DISESASED IN AMERICA?
2015-02-25 07:11:17 PM cchase so it seems you know some of the basics...that's wonderful
2015-02-25 07:11:30 PM arlene BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD ALL THIS TILL I CAME TO AMERICA
2015-02-25 07:11:31 PM cchase actually it is not rare
2015-02-25 07:11:33 PM patlec in the field a long time
2015-02-25 07:11:52 PM arlene I MEAN COMMON
2015-02-25 07:11:53 PM cchase I am told that it is a world wide issue
2015-02-25 07:11:54 PM arlene SORRY
2015-02-25 07:12:02 PM ileanaa Ths disease is in the rise, especially among baby boomers
2015-02-25 07:12:29 PM katew we also have a rapidly aging population-more people to age more people to get ALZ
2015-02-25 07:12:38 PM cchase some say it has become prevalent more so today because we know more about it
2015-02-25 07:12:48 PM patlec what is the diffrence between dementia and ALz? How can you tell
2015-02-25 07:12:48 PM marym Do you think it harder to plan activities for people that suffer with alzheimers?
2015-02-25 07:12:49 PM cchase and folks live longer
2015-02-25 07:13:04 PM patlec who has what,
2015-02-25 07:13:06 PM katew we are definitely pushing for diagnosis more
2015-02-25 07:13:07 PM cchase Alzheimer;s is the disease
2015-02-25 07:13:26 PM cchase dementia is one of the declines associated with Alz
2015-02-25 07:13:34 PM patlec I thought the only way you could tell if someone had ALZ is by an autopsy
2015-02-25 07:13:37 PM ileanaa activities are not difficult to plan they just need to be adapted
2015-02-25 07:13:45 PM cchase correct...absolutely
2015-02-25 07:13:55 PM cchase right now it is a process of elimination
2015-02-25 07:14:00 PM cchase diagnosis
2015-02-25 07:14:09 PM katew Brain scans can show areas of atrophy
2015-02-25 07:14:16 PM katew and inactivity
2015-02-25 07:14:19 PM cchase if everything else is ruled out it then seen as Alz
2015-02-25 07:14:27 PM cchase correct
2015-02-25 07:14:55 PM cchase the brain shrinks and placques and tangles set in
2015-02-25 07:15:00 PM patlec is it a seven year decline or can it last longer
2015-02-25 07:15:30 PM arlene left the chat room
2015-02-25 07:15:39 PM patlec what is the life span for someone with the DX
2015-02-25 07:15:43 PM cchase depends on when one comes down with it
2015-02-25 07:15:49 PM ileanaa I believe it can last longer
2015-02-25 07:15:56 PM cchase early onset will progress much faster
2015-02-25 07:15:58 PM katew Early on-set is more rapid. Also, it depends on the person level of engagement, cognitive stimulation and such.
2015-02-25 07:16:14 PM marym Is there any way to slow it down?
2015-02-25 07:16:25 PM patlec I was told seven to nine years...for end stage dementia
2015-02-25 07:16:25 PM cchase as early as tens years before symptoms appear is when the disease is already in action
2015-02-25 07:16:28 PM katew I had a guy age 36 pass away.
2015-02-25 07:16:31 PM ileanaa a conbination of medications
2015-02-25 07:16:35 PM arlene enter the chat room
2015-02-25 07:16:43 PM patlec did he have picks
2015-02-25 07:16:46 PM cchase oh...so sad so young
2015-02-25 07:16:48 PM katew The progression was faster than I have ever seen,
2015-02-25 07:16:58 PM cchase it would be
2015-02-25 07:17:00 PM katew it was heartbreaking
2015-02-25 07:17:03 PM cchase yes
2015-02-25 07:17:15 PM patlec Picks is genenic and hits you young
2015-02-25 07:17:17 PM katew ALZ
2015-02-25 07:17:21 PM cchase sorry that you experienced that
2015-02-25 07:17:35 PM ileanaa in the movie the lady was 53
2015-02-25 07:17:37 PM katew his mother, her sisters and their mother his grandmother all died of ALZ
2015-02-25 07:17:39 PM cchase so let's talk more about Alz
2015-02-25 07:17:43 PM marym Really sad disease!!!
2015-02-25 07:17:57 PM katew it was tough. I still think about him and his family.
2015-02-25 07:18:01 PM cchase long term memory vs short term what is the difference
2015-02-25 07:18:22 PM patlec they can remember long term not short
2015-02-25 07:18:25 PM cchase and how does it apply to Alz
2015-02-25 07:18:44 PM katew they have difficulty making new memories-short-term
2015-02-25 07:18:52 PM arlene LONG TERM THEY REMEMBER THINGS HAPPEN LONG TIME AGO BUT NOT THE THINGS HAPPEN 5 MINUTES AGO
2015-02-25 07:18:55 PM ileanaa they can remember more of their past than the present
2015-02-25 07:19:10 PM cchase correct..
2015-02-25 07:19:10 PM arlene YES
2015-02-25 07:19:12 PM patlec music is key
2015-02-25 07:19:17 PM cchase why is that??
2015-02-25 07:19:20 PM katew They will forget what they are doing after a bit even if they are engaged.
2015-02-25 07:19:22 PM ileanaa the disease is regresive
2015-02-25 07:19:27 PM arlene YES IT HELPS TO CALM THEM DOWN A LOT
2015-02-25 07:19:41 PM patlec they remember songs because it holds a feeling
2015-02-25 07:19:42 PM cchase the disease is progressive
2015-02-25 07:19:45 PM patlec memory
2015-02-25 07:19:55 PM arlene I USED MP3 FOR MY RESIDNETS CAUSED WE DONT HVE FUND FOR IPOD YET
2015-02-25 07:19:56 PM cchase very good
2015-02-25 07:20:04 PM ileanaa depending on the patient there will be different triggers
2015-02-25 07:20:07 PM cchase why is that??
2015-02-25 07:20:16 PM patlec we have an I-pod program and I so recommend it
2015-02-25 07:20:18 PM cchase why does feeling matter to those with Alz
2015-02-25 07:20:21 PM ileanaa music, smell, touch, etc..
2015-02-25 07:20:38 PM cchase anyone know
2015-02-25 07:20:44 PM patlec because you can get a reaction from them
2015-02-25 07:20:56 PM cchase need more
2015-02-25 07:20:56 PM katew it becomes a muscle memory when there is emotion attached
2015-02-25 07:20:59 PM marym My people enjoy bible study
2015-02-25 07:21:17 PM arlene IT HELPS THEM TO REMINISCW
2015-02-25 07:21:18 PM cchase not exactly a muscle memory but close
2015-02-25 07:21:18 PM katew they may not remember what you did but they remember how you made them feel
2015-02-25 07:21:31 PM cchase why
2015-02-25 07:21:46 PM katew it is stored in a different part of the brain-
2015-02-25 07:21:52 PM cchase what is happening in the brain that results in that truth
2015-02-25 07:22:07 PM patlec feelings -emotions
2015-02-25 07:22:14 PM ileanaa that's why hand massages work really well
2015-02-25 07:22:25 PM patlec a song can bring back a memory
2015-02-25 07:22:30 PM cchase okay so let's look at this one question
2015-02-25 07:22:39 PM cchase we know that feelings matter
2015-02-25 07:22:39 PM arlene AND WHEN THEY START HAVING ABEHAVIOR
2015-02-25 07:22:51 PM cchase we know that music is transcending
2015-02-25 07:23:03 PM cchase we know that emotions matter
2015-02-25 07:23:09 PM arlene IT HELPS THEM REMEBERING THEIR PAST
2015-02-25 07:23:23 PM cchase we know that emotions relate to their behavior
2015-02-25 07:23:45 PM cchase but why...why is that all truths
2015-02-25 07:23:48 PM patlec music can change their mood
2015-02-25 07:23:52 PM ileanaa it's important that they know that they still there and matter
2015-02-25 07:23:57 PM cchase yes
2015-02-25 07:24:24 PM cchase what I am looking for is what is going on in the brain that causes this
2015-02-25 07:24:32 PM cchase b/c of Alz
2015-02-25 07:24:53 PM arlene OK
2015-02-25 07:24:56 PM katew different areas of the brain are being effected at different times?
2015-02-25 07:25:06 PM cchase close and very good
2015-02-25 07:25:12 PM patlec stored emotions
2015-02-25 07:25:34 PM cchase studies show that the area of the brain that stores emotions is the last area the disease attacks
2015-02-25 07:25:40 PM katew The emotions are more primal and in different part of the brain-this is the same part of the brain that is impacted by music
2015-02-25 07:25:53 PM cchase thus, emotions remain intact until the disease has seriously progressed
2015-02-25 07:26:04 PM cchase so how do you use that???
2015-02-25 07:26:14 PM cchase while caring for those with Alz
2015-02-25 07:26:31 PM katew impulse control is effected early though
2015-02-25 07:26:56 PM katew So, they are not able to control or moderate their emotional responses
2015-02-25 07:27:03 PM cchase filters are the reason for impulse issues
2015-02-25 07:27:07 PM patlec I hear memories- sounds of babies crying etc. sensory stimulation
2015-02-25 07:27:15 PM ileanaa By using memory boxes to trigger the emotions
2015-02-25 07:27:16 PM cchase so close
2015-02-25 07:27:31 PM cchase so we use this knowledge to care for them
2015-02-25 07:27:33 PM patlec the five senses
2015-02-25 07:27:37 PM katew you have to build on the relationship
2015-02-25 07:27:43 PM katew touch them, hug them
2015-02-25 07:27:47 PM cchase we focus on the emotions
2015-02-25 07:27:48 PM ileanaa pictures of wedding, childrens,
2015-02-25 07:27:52 PM katew create a safe connection
2015-02-25 07:27:58 PM cchase we do theraputic touch
2015-02-25 07:28:01 PM cchase music
2015-02-25 07:28:09 PM cchase sensory, smiles
2015-02-25 07:28:14 PM cchase sense of humor
2015-02-25 07:28:19 PM ileanaa I do aroma therapy, like apple pie sent
2015-02-25 07:28:22 PM ileanaa scent
2015-02-25 07:28:46 PM katew makes sense
2015-02-25 07:28:50 PM marym Humor dose work
2015-02-25 07:28:50 PM patlec we have a massage therapist
2015-02-25 07:28:54 PM cchase if you have a happy Alz person you will not have so many behvior issues
2015-02-25 07:29:15 PM cchase so put on your smile at the beginning of the day
2015-02-25 07:29:23 PM cchase use this knowledge
2015-02-25 07:29:26 PM katew they are also really intuned and can pick up easily on the emotions of others including me
2015-02-25 07:29:27 PM ileanaa I used open arms
2015-02-25 07:29:27 PM patlec what about residents that have extreme anxiety and agitation
2015-02-25 07:29:38 PM cchase they feel the emotion but do not know why
2015-02-25 07:29:58 PM cchase yes very intuitive for sure
2015-02-25 07:30:14 PM marym I sometime dance and they laugh at me
2015-02-25 07:30:16 PM cchase let them pace that helps with anxiety
2015-02-25 07:30:22 PM patlec painting to classical music calms some of my guys down
2015-02-25 07:30:28 PM cchase bring in music to soothe
2015-02-25 07:30:28 PM ileanaa They see me with open arms, and they give me a hug
2015-02-25 07:30:43 PM cchase yes classical can do that
2015-02-25 07:30:55 PM katew during sundowning is it better to have an active program or a calming program?
2015-02-25 07:30:57 PM cchase use the emotion.
2015-02-25 07:31:11 PM ileanaa calming program
2015-02-25 07:31:27 PM patlec I feel at times I over stimulate
2015-02-25 07:31:31 PM cchase depends .. one person does better with distracting activities
2015-02-25 07:31:32 PM marym What about movies that are musical?
2015-02-25 07:31:41 PM ileanaa I run my finger on their cheeks they smile
2015-02-25 07:31:57 PM cchase like one I had that used to dance with his wife who had passed
2015-02-25 07:32:05 PM katew I worry that if it is too calming the residents might disengage and want to get up and then anxiety builds
2015-02-25 07:32:24 PM cchase so we put on the dance music and got him up to ballroom dance just before sundowning time
2015-02-25 07:32:28 PM cchase it worked
2015-02-25 07:32:44 PM ileanaa I do sundowning before bed, in that way they are calm before going to bed, less hassle
2015-02-25 07:32:46 PM cchase cute- the touch makes them smile
2015-02-25 07:33:06 PM arlene left the chat room
2015-02-25 07:33:07 PM arlene enter the chat room
2015-02-25 07:33:16 PM cchase arlene
2015-02-25 07:33:25 PM cchase hey you are a jumping bean
2015-02-25 07:33:26 PM patlec I have a resident that wanders and spreads pop all over the walls
2015-02-25 07:33:27 PM ileanaa or a kiss on the foehead.....one once said I love you mommy
2015-02-25 07:33:42 PM arlene OUR INTERNET IS HAVING A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW
2015-02-25 07:33:43 PM cchase pop or poop
2015-02-25 07:33:45 PM patlec poop
2015-02-25 07:33:50 PM patlec sorry
2015-02-25 07:33:55 PM cchase not much fun
2015-02-25 07:34:02 PM cchase LOL
2015-02-25 07:34:10 PM ileanaa wow
2015-02-25 07:34:17 PM katew gives finger painting a whole new meaning
2015-02-25 07:34:23 PM patlec well the nurses expect me to be a miricle worker
2015-02-25 07:34:24 PM cchase so much for internet
2015-02-25 07:34:45 PM cchase so now let
2015-02-25 07:34:47 PM patlec like I can make her just stop
2015-02-25 07:34:48 PM arlene ANYWAY I HAVE A RESIDENT THAT VERY REST LESS AND I CAN'T SEEM FIND THE RIGHT ACTIVITY FOR HIM ANY SUGGESTIONS
2015-02-25 07:35:01 PM cchase so how do you knowing about emotins
2015-02-25 07:35:14 PM cchase so how do you use knowing about emotions
2015-02-25 07:35:27 PM cchase so how do you use knowing about emotions
2015-02-25 07:35:53 PM ileanaa I gave my a basket full of socks to match....it took him hours, but he did it
2015-02-25 07:35:53 PM patlec I try to redirect her with allsorts of things
2015-02-25 07:35:54 PM katew ummm
2015-02-25 07:36:08 PM cchase use the emotions
2015-02-25 07:36:19 PM cchase look at the emotions not the behavior
2015-02-25 07:36:19 PM patlec even a lolly pop
2015-02-25 07:36:23 PM arlene YOU I HAVE DONE ALL THAT AND HE IS DONE IN 5 MIN
2015-02-25 07:36:41 PM patlec have him sort change
2015-02-25 07:36:55 PM cchase large change my dear
2015-02-25 07:36:58 PM patlec quarters, dimes nickles.
2015-02-25 07:37:00 PM katew all behavior has meaning
2015-02-25 07:37:03 PM arlene HE PUT THINGS ON HIS MOUTH
2015-02-25 07:37:06 PM cchase they will ingest the worst things
2015-02-25 07:37:12 PM patlec oh