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2014-08-27 06:47:28 PM sarahe No why
2014-08-27 06:47:31 PM slim9 why
2014-08-27 06:47:39 PM carriesl i had one that everyday she would say " remember when we were kids" and she would tell the staff stories
2014-08-27 06:47:45 PM carriesl loved it
2014-08-27 06:47:48 PM vickis because they live in the past
2014-08-27 06:47:50 PM mariasweet it might scare them
2014-08-27 06:47:51 PM sarahe Because they are unawrae of how they've aged?
2014-08-27 06:47:57 PM nijah because they may see themselves and think it is a stranger
2014-08-27 06:47:58 PM cchase yes sarah
2014-08-27 06:47:59 PM carolynlnig They cannot look at themselves and see an ungly stranger where their 'youn ' reflections shud be and it causes anger
2014-08-27 06:48:22 PM vickis looking in the mirror would cause confusion of what that person looks like in their minds
2014-08-27 06:48:25 PM sarahe That is so sad
2014-08-27 06:48:35 PM cchase b/c they may look in the mirror and expect to see the reflection of a sixteen year old not a ninety year old
2014-08-27 06:48:39 PM slim9 the last thing they remember they were not as old
2014-08-27 06:48:44 PM mariasweet good point vickis
2014-08-27 06:48:54 PM sarahe I actually have tears in my eyes.
2014-08-27 06:49:07 PM nijah dont cry sara
2014-08-27 06:49:11 PM cchase yes it is sad sarah
2014-08-27 06:49:14 PM carolynlnig We used to have a Day Center program in a classroom of a church and we could not cover the mirrors after our program, so we had to cover them and uncover them each day
2014-08-27 06:49:58 PM vickis my grandparents both suffered from alzaheimers, i saw this day and night on a personal level
2014-08-27 06:50:14 PM carolynlnig What an experience, Vickis
2014-08-27 06:50:36 PM carolynlnig Do you feel blessed by having had that experience?
2014-08-27 06:50:36 PM sarahe How heart breaking for you Vickis.
2014-08-27 06:50:39 PM cchase so now you all can offer so much more with the renewed understanding... yes??
2014-08-27 06:50:48 PM carolynlnig Yes!
2014-08-27 06:50:51 PM slim9 my great grandmother no longer recognized any of us..we had to call her Mrs.
2014-08-27 06:50:52 PM carriesl yes
2014-08-27 06:50:54 PM nijah yes
2014-08-27 06:50:55 PM vickis my grandmother thought my dad was my grandfather in his younger years, she wanted for him to go lay in bed with her
2014-08-27 06:50:59 PM mariasweet yes!!!
2014-08-27 06:51:06 PM sarahe Most definitely! They are all so precious!
2014-08-27 06:51:42 PM cchase then I am pleased and know you all will become tomorrows professional Alzheimer's caretakers
2014-08-27 06:51:42 PM carolynlnig a difficult situation, Vickis
2014-08-27 06:51:43 PM slim9 yes
2014-08-27 06:51:48 PM slim9 yes
2014-08-27 06:52:18 PM cchase any last questions??
2014-08-27 06:52:18 PM vickis yes i loved them, i was a wonderful granddaughter, i learned to live in their world
2014-08-27 06:52:20 PM carolynlnig The task takes great love
2014-08-27 06:53:03 PM carolynlnig Thanks, cchase!
2014-08-27 06:53:05 PM nijah are their any other tips you can give us on a professional stand point
2014-08-27 06:53:13 PM carolynlnig Thanks to all of you on chat tonite, too
2014-08-27 06:53:15 PM sarahe Thank you everyone for sharing your personal and professional experiences. This is the best chat I've been in.
2014-08-27 06:53:24 PM slim9 we also have to accept change...the things our residents used to do or like last month they may not like this month
2014-08-27 06:53:25 PM vickis i loved tonights discussion, it hit very close to home but i didnt feel lost since i have experienced it in person
2014-08-27 06:53:25 PM carriesl its their smile! you have to love them. and remember they were someone before alzheimerz
2014-08-27 06:53:27 PM mariasweet thank you.
2014-08-27 06:53:32 PM cchase next month we will focus on redirection
2014-08-27 06:53:46 PM carriesl Great dicussion
2014-08-27 06:53:48 PM cchase look for it...
2014-08-27 06:53:49 PM slim9 yes please
2014-08-27 06:54:02 PM slim9 goodnight
2014-08-27 06:54:03 PM vickis great thank u everybody
2014-08-27 06:54:03 PM cchase next wednesday I am holding an Adult Day chat
2014-08-27 06:54:08 PM carolynlnig Good nit all, I'm off to do homework!
2014-08-27 06:54:11 PM cchase please come if you would like
2014-08-27 06:54:12 PM carolynlnig left the chat room
2014-08-27 06:54:15 PM sarahe Goodnight everyone!
2014-08-27 06:54:26 PM vickis i will join you next wedsnday
2014-08-27 06:54:26 PM slim9 left the chat room
2014-08-27 06:54:31 PM cchase good night - be well and god bless
2014-08-27 06:54:32 PM mariasweet Good night everyone
2014-08-27 06:54:41 PM carriesl night thanks i eill join nest week
2014-08-27 06:54:44 PM sarahe left the chat room
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2014-08-27 06:54:52 PM nijah Good night and thanks
2014-08-27 06:54:55 PM vickis nite
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2014-08-27 06:55:04 PM cchase your welcome
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2014-08-28 10:59:14 AM vickis enter the chat room
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2014-08-28 08:16:16 PM nacresia35 enter the chat room
2014-08-28 08:16:32 PM nacresia35 hello
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2014-09-02 08:24:13 AM miria2006 enter the chat room
2014-09-02 08:24:20 AM miria2006 Good Morning!!!!
2014-09-02 08:24:44 AM miria2006 Who else is excited for this course?(lol)
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2014-09-03 02:06:16 PM colleenb When is this next chat?
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2014-09-23 06:05:36 PM slim9 enter the chat room
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2014-09-24 05:45:36 PM colleenb enter the chat room
2014-09-24 05:47:32 PM cchase enter the chat room
2014-09-24 05:47:43 PM cchase hello there
2014-09-24 05:47:50 PM colleenb hello
2014-09-24 05:48:02 PM colleenb this class starts at 8 right?
2014-09-24 05:48:19 PM cchase yes- you are early
2014-09-24 05:48:57 PM cchase what class are you in?
2014-09-24 05:49:16 PM colleenb mepap 1
2014-09-24 05:49:46 PM cchase are you enjoying the class?
2014-09-24 05:50:29 PM colleenb yes very much so. Are you the teacher?
2014-09-24 05:50:35 PM cchase yes
2014-09-24 05:50:48 PM cchase I was a former student of the very same class
2014-09-24 05:50:53 PM colleenb do you have these classes weekly?
2014-09-24 05:51:10 PM colleenb oh fun!! Did you like the class?
2014-09-24 05:51:41 PM cchase I hold these chats session once for Alzheimer's then once for Adult Day Health
2014-09-24 05:52:06 PM cchase yes I did in fact so much so that I kept taking more classes
2014-09-24 05:52:20 PM colleenb what the mepap ll?
2014-09-24 05:52:36 PM cchase all done with that one1
2014-09-24 05:52:49 PM colleenb I just have to get more credits for the body of knowledge
2014-09-24 05:52:55 PM cchase I am currently ADC and just finished ACC requirments
2014-09-24 05:53:15 PM colleenb I am using my in services and a seminar
2014-09-24 05:53:16 PM cchase I also am certified as a CDP
2014-09-24 05:53:34 PM colleenb oh good for you!!:)
2014-09-24 05:53:58 PM cchase keep going on this journey
2014-09-24 05:54:08 PM cchase it's a great start
2014-09-24 05:54:19 PM colleenb yes i agree
2014-09-24 05:54:42 PM cchase what work did you do before this?
2014-09-24 05:55:28 PM colleenb Well I have been at my nursing home now for the last four years, before that I was in the restaurant business
2014-09-24 05:55:33 PM colleenb how about you?
2014-09-24 05:56:26 PM cchase I have worked with seniors for over 15 years
2014-09-24 05:57:06 PM cchase what did you do in the restaurant business?
2014-09-24 05:57:22 PM colleenb busser than a server
2014-09-24 05:57:52 PM amyr enter the chat room
2014-09-24 05:58:02 PM cchase well that does take alot of talent working with the public
2014-09-24 05:58:10 PM cchase hi there amy
2014-09-24 05:58:17 PM amyr hello
2014-09-24 05:58:21 PM colleenb it wasnt for me i had to leave
2014-09-24 05:58:23 PM colleenb Hello
2014-09-24 05:58:27 PM cchase how are you/
2014-09-24 05:58:43 PM amyr good. how about you guys?
2014-09-24 05:58:50 PM cchase very well
2014-09-24 05:58:58 PM colleenb I am doing well also
2014-09-24 05:59:04 PM cchase what do you all expect to learn tonight??
2014-09-24 05:59:48 PM amyr i work with low functioning dimentia and high fall risks. i want to learn activities for them
2014-09-24 06:00:18 PM amyr i have a group of 11 and all are different cognitive levels
2014-09-24 06:00:44 PM colleenb I expect to learn new activities for them as well
2014-09-24 06:00:44 PM carrie1 enter the chat room
2014-09-24 06:01:00 PM cchase I remember a secured unit with 20 Alz pts.
2014-09-24 06:01:07 PM cchase hello carrie
2014-09-24 06:01:20 PM cchase some many years ago
2014-09-24 06:01:34 PM carrie1 hello
2014-09-24 06:01:53 PM lisaturske enter the chat room
2014-09-24 06:01:53 PM cchase what do you all know about Alzheimer's/dementia
2014-09-24 06:02:17 PM cchase hello lisa
2014-09-24 06:02:44 PM lisaturske Hello! :)
2014-09-24 06:03:26 PM colleenb from my understadning is that alzheimers is when someone loses all control over themselves; like not remembering how to eat or walk. Dementia is when you cannot remember as much as you used too
2014-09-24 06:03:30 PM lisaturske I know that some staff get VERY frustrated working with Alz/dementia patients.
2014-09-24 06:03:36 PM amyr very sad disease. which there is no cure for alz. dimentia has some meds available. progressively worsens until death
2014-09-24 06:03:56 PM nijah enter the chat room
2014-09-24 06:04:06 PM cchase good thougths
2014-09-24 06:04:13 PM cchase hello there welcome
2014-09-24 06:04:20 PM amyr they are frustrating at times, but i love them all
2014-09-24 06:04:20 PM nijah Hello
2014-09-24 06:04:41 PM cchase do you know that alzheimer's begins 15 years before you see any symptoms?
2014-09-24 06:04:53 PM carrie1 I have worked with alzheimers/dementia residents for the past 9 years. I love it.
2014-09-24 06:04:56 PM amyr really?
2014-09-24 06:04:59 PM lisaturske I think it would be beneficial to have refresher Alz/dementia training annually.
2014-09-24 06:05:14 PM cchase agreed as we continue to learn more
2014-09-24 06:05:15 PM colleenb My whole point is i know i am frustrating at times lol and I dont have either one so if they put up with me i can and want to put up with them
2014-09-24 06:05:42 PM cchase you need to remember a few key things
2014-09-24 06:05:51 PM amyr i remember reading that there are over 100 different forms of dementia
2014-09-24 06:05:57 PM cchase they can't remember anything you tell them
2014-09-24 06:06:12 PM nijah that's so true
2014-09-24 06:06:26 PM colleenb no they cant
2014-09-24 06:06:31 PM cchase there are about seven different causes for dementia
2014-09-24 06:06:41 PM nijah what are they
2014-09-24 06:06:54 PM colleenb I didnt know that there were causes I thought it just happended
2014-09-24 06:06:54 PM cchase lewy bodies, parkinson,s
2014-09-24 06:07:01 PM cchase vacular
2014-09-24 06:07:12 PM cchase medications related
2014-09-24 06:07:18 PM cchase frontal lobe
2014-09-24 06:07:24 PM cchase alchol
2014-09-24 06:07:43 PM cchase just o name a few
2014-09-24 06:08:12 PM nijah wow
2014-09-24 06:08:23 PM colleenb wow is right
2014-09-24 06:08:28 PM cchase what else do you all know
2014-09-24 06:08:43 PM nijah are any particular types of meds the cause
2014-09-24 06:08:43 PM mariasweet enter the chat room
2014-09-24 06:08:44 PM colleenb they are redirectable
2014-09-24 06:08:50 PM cchase hello maria
2014-09-24 06:08:53 PM mariasweet Hello everyone
2014-09-24 06:09:01 PM cchase how are they redirectab le
2014-09-24 06:09:15 PM cchase you have an example
2014-09-24 06:10:04 PM carrie1 how do you feel about alzheimer residents being mixed with alcohol induced dementia residents of a younger age?
2014-09-24 06:10:37 PM colleenb like of we are doing a craft and in the middle of it they start to wheel themselves out of the room, if I bring them bak to the table and redirect them to what they were doing they usually listen
2014-09-24 06:10:40 PM cchase that depends on whether you have them present with behavior issues
2014-09-24 06:11:01 PM amyr i know they remember their past and the ones i work with recognize my face. they can sing songs like happy birthday. even my residents with aphasia.
2014-09-24 06:11:41 PM cchase younger ones r/t alcohol tend to need different types of activities to keep them engaged than older counterparts r/t Alzheimer's
2014-09-24 06:11:51 PM colleenb Oh yes alot of them can remember every word to every song thats why i love working with music it brings back so many memories
2014-09-24 06:11:51 PM carrie1 many with behaviors
2014-09-24 06:12:25 PM cchase those with behaviors can be very scary for tohers
2014-09-24 06:12:31 PM cchase others
2014-09-24 06:12:40 PM carrie1 yes, it creates quite a mix
2014-09-24 06:12:49 PM cchase do you know ehy they remember old songs?
2014-09-24 06:12:55 PM mariasweet Yes, because you never know when they might have an episode
2014-09-24 06:13:00 PM amyr no
2014-09-24 06:13:01 PM colleenb No i dont
2014-09-24 06:13:23 PM amyr that is in a diff part of the brain?
2014-09-24 06:13:45 PM lisaturske I'd love to see that movie about the connection between Alzheimers and music...Alive Inside.
2014-09-24 06:13:56 PM cchase well there is not r/t to episode - b/c that is the way they are all the time
2014-09-24 06:14:13 PM cchase okay so let's examine
2014-09-24 06:14:37 PM cchase alzheimer's starts some 15 years before the onset of any outward symptoms
2014-09-24 06:14:44 PM cchase which really means
2014-09-24 06:15:07 PM cchase that memories before the onset of the disease can be filed away to recall later
2014-09-24 06:15:22 PM nijah ok
2014-09-24 06:15:26 PM cchase but memories after the onset cannot be stored to remember later
2014-09-24 06:15:32 PM cchase picture a wire
2014-09-24 06:15:58 PM cchase straight line is quick to get electrical impulse from one end to the other
2014-09-24 06:16:39 PM cchase but when plaques and tangles develop the wire gets all tangled up and the message can's get through
2014-09-24 06:16:54 PM cchase thus the memory can't be found
2014-09-24 06:17:21 PM colleenb hmmm this is very interesting
2014-09-24 06:17:49 PM amyr very sad
2014-09-24 06:17:58 PM mariasweet good way of putting the example. got it
2014-09-24 06:18:06 PM cchase yes picture your computer
2014-09-24 06:18:24 PM cchase you create a word document
2014-09-24 06:18:32 PM cchase give it a name like Mary
2014-09-24 06:18:44 PM cchase then file it in a folder called employee
2014-09-24 06:18:54 PM cchase later you can find it
2014-09-24 06:19:00 PM cchase right??
2014-09-24 06:19:08 PM nijah yes
2014-09-24 06:19:14 PM nijah right
2014-09-24 06:19:15 PM cchase okay but now
2014-09-24 06:19:41 PM cchase you dont' remember the folder and you don't remember the name of the word document
2014-09-24 06:20:06 PM cchase and your computer cannot save it anyways
2014-09-24 06:20:20 PM cchase carrie are you there??
2014-09-24 06:20:24 PM nijah it's lost
2014-09-24 06:20:28 PM carrie1 yes
2014-09-24 06:20:34 PM cchase okay
2014-09-24 06:20:41 PM cchase it's not only lost
2014-09-24 06:20:54 PM cchase but was never saved to reference later
2014-09-24 06:21:10 PM cchase why long term memories can be retrieved
2014-09-24 06:21:23 PM nijah so we created it but never saved
2014-09-24 06:21:24 PM cchase and short term memories cannot be accessed
2014-09-24 06:21:35 PM cchase right - good
2014-09-24 06:21:53 PM cchase we experience the memory but can't save it
2014-09-24 06:22:39 PM nijah that is interesting
2014-09-24 06:22:46 PM colleenb yes it is
2014-09-24 06:23:01 PM colleenb So what exactly is the difference between the two?
2014-09-24 06:23:03 PM carrie1 I find that religion is the main thing my residents recall
2014-09-24 06:23:15 PM amyr great examples
2014-09-24 06:23:22 PM cchase difference btw which two?
2014-09-24 06:23:36 PM colleenb Alzheimers and dementia
2014-09-24 06:23:42 PM carrie1 sometimes even over family
2014-09-24 06:23:43 PM cchase good question
2014-09-24 06:24:11 PM cchase dementia is something that occurs when someone has Alzheimers
2014-09-24 06:24:26 PM cchase dementia is also something that occurs with parkinson
2014-09-24 06:24:35 PM cchase lewy bodies
2014-09-24 06:24:46 PM cchase frontal lobe
2014-09-24 06:24:53 PM cchase alcohol abuse
2014-09-24 06:25:09 PM cchase medication
2014-09-24 06:25:19 PM nijah what is lewy bodies
2014-09-24 06:25:31 PM lisaturske So Alzheimers is a disease and dementia is a result of a disease?
2014-09-24 06:25:40 PM cchase I would like you to research lewy bodies
2014-09-24 06:25:52 PM cchase then tell me and the other students about it
2014-09-24 06:26:02 PM cchase yes lisa in a way
2014-09-24 06:26:12 PM cchase dementia is a symptom of Alzheimer's
2014-09-24 06:26:17 PM amyr i have had residents with lewis bodies
2014-09-24 06:26:29 PM cchase there also is dementia nos
2014-09-24 06:26:41 PM cchase not other wise specified
2014-09-24 06:27:03 PM cchase share what you know about lewy bodies
2014-09-24 06:28:30 PM nijah why did you put me on the spot??? LOL
2014-09-24 06:29:14 PM cchase okay so what would you all do if Mom who alway goes to eat out with you takes her coat off and has only a bra and panties
2014-09-24 06:29:15 PM nijah it is abnormal aggregates of protein that develop inside nerve cells
2014-09-24 06:29:38 PM amyr it is an agressive form of dementia. causes hallucinations. sometimes they can be very angry and violent, sometimes staring into space.
2014-09-24 06:29:39 PM cchase this is how you learn
2014-09-24 06:29:56 PM nijah in Parkinson's disease
2014-09-24 06:30:12 PM colleenb I would be embarrassed
2014-09-24 06:30:15 PM cchase do you know of any famous people with the disease
2014-09-24 06:30:25 PM lisaturske I'd put her coat her back on. :)
2014-09-24 06:30:29 PM cchase what would you say to Mom
2014-09-24 06:30:43 PM cchase she does not want to put her coat on
2014-09-24 06:30:49 PM cchase what do you say
2014-09-24 06:30:58 PM amyr michael j fox and robin williams katherine hepburn also.
2014-09-24 06:31:08 PM colleenb I would ask her why she took her coat off?
2014-09-24 06:31:10 PM carrie1 I have only 1 resident with lewy bodies. She is fairly new and i am honestly not familiar with this type.I will say, she is quite outspoken.
2014-09-24 06:31:29 PM nijah Mom it's cold and you have to get warm
2014-09-24 06:31:30 PM amyr i would try to remove her from the restaurant
2014-09-24 06:31:34 PM cchase so now you have something new to learn about
2014-09-24 06:31:38 PM lisaturske My first thought would be to tell her why I want her to put her coat on.
2014-09-24 06:31:44 PM nijah so i need you to put your coat on
2014-09-24 06:31:46 PM cchase your on to something
2014-09-24 06:32:02 PM cchase but she does not want to put her coat on
2014-09-24 06:32:16 PM cchase how do you get her to do that
2014-09-24 06:32:22 PM nijah well leave her alone
2014-09-24 06:32:29 PM colleenb you dont?
2014-09-24 06:32:50 PM nijah tell her it's snowing
2014-09-24 06:32:50 PM colleenb you join in with her?
2014-09-24 06:32:52 PM cchase keep digging
2014-09-24 06:32:57 PM cchase join her how
2014-09-24 06:33:05 PM cchase keep on that thought
2014-09-24 06:33:14 PM colleenb get in your bra and panties too
2014-09-24 06:33:15 PM nijah there is a blizzard outside
2014-09-24 06:33:38 PM cchase what do you feel with a blizzard
2014-09-24 06:33:50 PM nijah cold
2014-09-24 06:33:51 PM mariasweet cold
2014-09-24 06:33:54 PM lisaturske cold
2014-09-24 06:33:58 PM cchase YES
2014-09-24 06:34:02 PM lisaturske wet
2014-09-24 06:34:07 PM nijah LOL
2014-09-24 06:34:10 PM colleenb hahha
2014-09-24 06:34:14 PM amyr cold and scared not in control
2014-09-24 06:34:22 PM cchase tell her it's cold in the restaurant and you put your own coat on
2014-09-24 06:34:31 PM cchase she will copy you
2014-09-24 06:34:39 PM amyr right on!
2014-09-24 06:34:40 PM nijah ok
2014-09-24 06:34:42 PM cchase and put her coat on too
2014-09-24 06:34:44 PM mariasweet ok
2014-09-24 06:34:47 PM colleenb do as you see!!
2014-09-24 06:34:47 PM carrie1 i see
2014-09-24 06:34:56 PM lisaturske :)
2014-09-24 06:35:02 PM cchase never argue
2014-09-24 06:35:07 PM cchase you will loose
2014-09-24 06:35:13 PM colleenb true
2014-09-24 06:35:23 PM amyr or get beat up
2014-09-24 06:35:25 PM lisaturske I see taht often. :(
2014-09-24 06:35:49 PM cchase try to think of how you can accomplish what you need
2014-09-24 06:36:01 PM cchase without cause a battle
2014-09-24 06:36:20 PM cchase okay one more - ready??
2014-09-24 06:36:32 PM lisaturske ready.
2014-09-24 06:36:33 PM colleenb yes!
2014-09-24 06:36:37 PM colleenb I like this
2014-09-24 06:36:42 PM carrie1 ok
2014-09-24 06:36:43 PM cchase good
2014-09-24 06:36:47 PM cchase here goes
2014-09-24 06:37:15 PM cchase resident looks outside and wants to go out in the middle of the night for a walk

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