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2016-03-17 06:10:17 PM degestrom yes
2016-03-17 06:10:24 PM kathyhughes Raleigh NC
2016-03-17 06:10:38 PM degestrom too far for me right now
2016-03-17 06:10:41 PM kathyhughes Its over 20 hours of continuung ed
2016-03-17 06:10:41 PM teresab any chance they will offer the exam there too?
2016-03-17 06:10:48 PM kathyhughes good question
2016-03-17 06:10:59 PM edrar how many hours do we need a year
2016-03-17 06:11:06 PM kathyhughes I have always asked, but no one would sign up
2016-03-17 06:11:16 PM kathyhughes 30 hours every 2 years
2016-03-17 06:11:22 PM edrar oh ok
2016-03-17 06:11:26 PM reneebragg yes that would be awesome get a private lesson from kathy right before the exam lol
2016-03-17 06:11:34 PM kathyhughes Ha
2016-03-17 06:11:40 PM 85cindy enter the chat room
2016-03-17 06:11:45 PM rose48mary lol
2016-03-17 06:11:45 PM teresab hmm seems like a good idea then I can add in that I need to go to the symposium to take the exam to
2016-03-17 06:11:51 PM reneebragg i hate test!!!!
2016-03-17 06:11:55 PM edrar I want kathy to go in for me. lol
2016-03-17 06:11:57 PM rose48mary me too
2016-03-17 06:11:57 PM teresab i like it renee
2016-03-17 06:12:04 PM kathyhughes Believe me I am in charge so that might only happen Happy Hour
2016-03-17 06:12:05 PM edrar Test freak me out.
2016-03-17 06:12:17 PM ashleyd When you sign up to take your exam do they give you a testing center somewhere local?
2016-03-17 06:12:21 PM reneebragg yes kill 2 birds with one stone over with haha
2016-03-17 06:12:30 PM kathyhughes yes
2016-03-17 06:12:32 PM reneebragg love happy hour
2016-03-17 06:12:37 PM rose48mary me too
2016-03-17 06:12:47 PM 85cindy Hello everyone!! Happy St. Patricks Day!
2016-03-17 06:12:49 PM reneebragg i be there
2016-03-17 06:12:52 PM rose48mary hello
2016-03-17 06:12:54 PM vincentk Is the final formated like the tests in mepap 1 and 2?
2016-03-17 06:12:59 PM kathyhughes yes
2016-03-17 06:13:10 PM rose48mary thats good
2016-03-17 06:13:16 PM kathyhughes But it is not open book and you only have 1 hour
2016-03-17 06:13:20 PM edrar how long after we finish mepap 2 can we get your study guide
2016-03-17 06:13:23 PM vincentk Is it really hard, Kathy? or do you think most people do well on the final? 8-|
2016-03-17 06:13:34 PM sonjen the test is not online?
2016-03-17 06:13:39 PM degestrom study guide!
2016-03-17 06:13:39 PM reneebragg kathy you give us a study guide right i do better with that
2016-03-17 06:13:44 PM kathyhughes I post it on your forum on week 15
2016-03-17 06:13:50 PM 85cindy Just got through work short time ago. St. Patricks Day went well
2016-03-17 06:13:52 PM zuly02 left the chat room
2016-03-17 06:13:52 PM ashleyd ok good!
2016-03-17 06:13:53 PM edrar I am afraid i won' t pass.
2016-03-17 06:13:55 PM reneebragg Amen
2016-03-17 06:13:55 PM jamiet1 sounds good
2016-03-17 06:13:57 PM teresab study guide?
2016-03-17 06:14:05 PM edrar Week 15, thats great
2016-03-17 06:14:07 PM reneebragg Me to edrar
2016-03-17 06:14:11 PM vincentk can you retake it in the event you don't pass?
2016-03-17 06:14:19 PM kathyhughes Anyone who has taken the ADN courses have passed
2016-03-17 06:14:24 PM degestrom 3 times I think
2016-03-17 06:14:24 PM rose48mary and how many times
2016-03-17 06:14:27 PM edrar how many times. lol
2016-03-17 06:14:34 PM kathyhughes Yes you can take it as many times as you can afford
2016-03-17 06:14:42 PM rose48mary how much is it
2016-03-17 06:14:44 PM edrar lol
2016-03-17 06:14:51 PM ashleyd I better get it right the first time :)
2016-03-17 06:14:54 PM vincentk lol me too
2016-03-17 06:14:57 PM kathyhughes $90 each time
2016-03-17 06:15:01 PM reneebragg me to
2016-03-17 06:15:03 PM jamiet1 thinking the same thing
2016-03-17 06:15:07 PM edrar me too
2016-03-17 06:15:07 PM vincentk oh man. better pass the first time!
2016-03-17 06:15:09 PM rose48mary your facility should pay right
2016-03-17 06:15:18 PM edrar Mine is
2016-03-17 06:15:25 PM sonjen mine is too
2016-03-17 06:15:30 PM vincentk they should definitely pay, if they're the ones wanting you to take the course
2016-03-17 06:15:34 PM rebecca so will mine
2016-03-17 06:15:36 PM jamiet1 mine paid for both classes, I guess I can fork out for the test
2016-03-17 06:15:38 PM degestrom I'm paying in case it does not go well
2016-03-17 06:15:42 PM kathyhughes Now ,,,,,,if for some reason you don't pass after 4 tries you get sent back to me!
2016-03-17 06:15:42 PM reneebragg my pays for this course after i finish it
2016-03-17 06:15:45 PM ashleyd I hope mine does. My facility only pays for 50% if you pass.
2016-03-17 06:16:00 PM kathym I left for a few cause one of my residents is having a hard time with things, so he jsut wanted to alk and I told him I will always be there for him.
2016-03-17 06:16:01 PM cristinak I HAVE PAID FOR MINE AND THE ADM REFUSES TO SIGN THE EXPENSE REPORT SO I CAN GET REIMBURST
2016-03-17 06:16:10 PM edrar then we start over
2016-03-17 06:16:11 PM rose48mary wow love to work with you Kathy, but don't want to come back...lol
2016-03-17 06:16:13 PM 85cindy My is going to pay for the Mepap 2 class. so hopefully they will pay the test
2016-03-17 06:16:16 PM vincentk haha
2016-03-17 06:16:19 PM kathyhughes Remember that it is your certification so all of the costs are tax deductable
2016-03-17 06:16:19 PM edrar me either
2016-03-17 06:16:23 PM sonjen do you have to wait to have all the college credits before you take the NCCAP ecxam?
2016-03-17 06:16:28 PM jamiet1 I think I will just pass on the first one....I don't want to have to repeat
2016-03-17 06:16:37 PM vincentk you're a great instructor Kathy, but yes, I only want to return on good terms!
2016-03-17 06:16:40 PM edrar I think i will too
2016-03-17 06:16:51 PM kathyhughes No......you can apply for Track 4 and then take the exam asap
2016-03-17 06:16:52 PM kathym Are you all in M-2?
2016-03-17 06:16:56 PM teresab so if the test if offered at the symposium would that make it all deductible?
2016-03-17 06:17:02 PM reneebragg yes
2016-03-17 06:17:04 PM kathyhughes right
2016-03-17 06:17:06 PM rose48mary i am
2016-03-17 06:17:09 PM 85cindy yes
2016-03-17 06:17:14 PM degestrom i am
2016-03-17 06:17:18 PM sonjen good, i would rather take the test while it is fresh
2016-03-17 06:17:20 PM cristinak YES
2016-03-17 06:17:22 PM kathyhughes the symposium is tax deductable anyway
2016-03-17 06:17:22 PM edrar Mepap2
2016-03-17 06:17:27 PM kathym Is it any different from M-1
2016-03-17 06:17:32 PM vincentk I'm guessing the study guide is very helpful and important to do if you want to pass?
2016-03-17 06:17:41 PM kathyhughes I hope so!
2016-03-17 06:17:46 PM degestrom depending on it
2016-03-17 06:17:52 PM edrar it seems to me its not as much work as the mepap 1
2016-03-17 06:17:54 PM vincentk me too
2016-03-17 06:18:09 PM reneebragg yes kathym, Mepap 2 alot better more fun and interesting for me
2016-03-17 06:18:13 PM ashleyd I think mepap 1 was hard lol
2016-03-17 06:18:16 PM kathym That's good to know. I am just glad to be able to go through this.
2016-03-17 06:18:16 PM rose48mary i agree
2016-03-17 06:18:19 PM degestrom me too
2016-03-17 06:18:19 PM 85cindy I am sorry but I missed how the study guide is obtainable
2016-03-17 06:18:21 PM sonjen i agree as well
2016-03-17 06:18:22 PM kathyhughes MEPAP2 is all about management and leadership
2016-03-17 06:18:22 PM edrar I agree
2016-03-17 06:18:31 PM sonjen study guide is in week 15
2016-03-17 06:18:32 PM degestrom posted on week 15
2016-03-17 06:18:37 PM vincentk 85cindy- the study guide will be given to us on the 15th week of this course
2016-03-17 06:18:37 PM reneebragg Which I love 2
2016-03-17 06:18:38 PM kathym So you have to step up to the plate?
2016-03-17 06:18:39 PM kathyhughes I post the study guide on the forum for week 15
2016-03-17 06:18:47 PM jamiet1 this is the part I feel is most beneficial for me right now
2016-03-17 06:18:54 PM 85cindy Ok ..Thanks!
2016-03-17 06:18:56 PM edrar me too
2016-03-17 06:19:02 PM kathyhughes It also helps with staff issues
2016-03-17 06:19:04 PM rose48mary my favorite part of mepap 2 was discussing and findiing 3 visionaries
2016-03-17 06:19:15 PM reneebragg me to jamie we have no leadership
2016-03-17 06:19:15 PM sonjen Me too, having staffing issues now Ugh
2016-03-17 06:19:22 PM vincentk same here! especially since i just had to have an "education" with one of my employees. taking that leadership quiz last week and reading that stuff helped me address the situation.
2016-03-17 06:19:43 PM kathym Kathy, do i have to change anything from my original submission from AD to AA?
2016-03-17 06:19:51 PM jamiet1 I am "staff challenged" as well, down 2 full time and a part time
2016-03-17 06:19:59 PM kathyhughes not for the class Kathy
2016-03-17 06:20:06 PM reneebragg Oh I have learned so much I think Nurses need to take Mepap 2
2016-03-17 06:20:17 PM rose48mary i agree
2016-03-17 06:20:18 PM cristinak AMEN RENEE
2016-03-17 06:20:26 PM degestrom i agree
2016-03-17 06:20:36 PM kathyhughes Not many dept heads have management classes
2016-03-17 06:20:42 PM kathym I think everyone should take a course like this because all the stuff we are studying is intertwined with other departments.
2016-03-17 06:20:45 PM 85cindy This session on management and leadership is very helpful. I have a good staff but I am down as far as weekends
2016-03-17 06:20:47 PM ashleyd I think they should take mepap 1 also!
2016-03-17 06:20:47 PM vincentk i sure wish they did
2016-03-17 06:20:47 PM reneebragg They lack alot of communication skills
2016-03-17 06:20:57 PM jamiet1 That's what I think too!
2016-03-17 06:21:31 PM reneebragg Kathy, the nursing courses really need to put this in.
2016-03-17 06:21:39 PM kathyhughes Oh but you all thought that they didn't need to when we discussed the Greenhouses in MEPAP1 :S
2016-03-17 06:21:43 PM 85cindy I feel that some of the other depts do not understand how much we do in Recreation
2016-03-17 06:21:45 PM kathym There's alot of stuff about the other dept.'s I am not too familiar with but it's good to know how they think.
2016-03-17 06:21:52 PM edrar This looks like my new little puppy, she has brown in her though. Adorable.
2016-03-17 06:22:07 PM reneebragg me to cindy
2016-03-17 06:22:13 PM vincentk lol too cute
2016-03-17 06:22:14 PM kathym This is my puppey and her name is maggie.
2016-03-17 06:22:21 PM kathyhughes And its our job to educate them about activities
2016-03-17 06:22:29 PM rose48mary yes i agree
2016-03-17 06:22:30 PM reneebragg They think we are babysitters
2016-03-17 06:22:34 PM kathyhughes and do inservices regularly
2016-03-17 06:22:34 PM kathym How do you do that without gettingjumped on?
2016-03-17 06:22:34 PM edrar oh mine is Pupcake
2016-03-17 06:22:40 PM vincentk We hold in-services for our cna's, and down the road we're trying to do one with nurses
2016-03-17 06:22:42 PM ashleyd that is true. sometimes its hard to make them understand though.
2016-03-17 06:22:58 PM kathyhughes Do you all have dept head meetings?
2016-03-17 06:23:00 PM reneebragg Oh I am having fun doing that got the opportunity of just doing that today!!
2016-03-17 06:23:02 PM jamiet1 they cut off all the cable in our day halls, so we are really pushing education and engagment with the residents
2016-03-17 06:23:05 PM sonjen yes
2016-03-17 06:23:06 PM vincentk My facility does
2016-03-17 06:23:07 PM rose48mary yes once a week
2016-03-17 06:23:09 PM edrar we do Kathy
2016-03-17 06:23:11 PM reneebragg yes
2016-03-17 06:23:17 PM teresab they do
2016-03-17 06:23:28 PM 85cindy Yes I understand that and respect it. But a lot does get taken for granted at times , however we are all working together to improve that.
2016-03-17 06:23:29 PM jamiet1 Yes, every moring and then we have to go to clinical in teh afternoon
2016-03-17 06:23:31 PM cristinak WE HAVE ONE EVERY MORNING
2016-03-17 06:23:33 PM kathym We do, but just the heads. I think that all the heads and assistants should get together.
2016-03-17 06:23:34 PM ashleyd we have daily meetings
2016-03-17 06:23:43 PM kathyhughes So instead of telling them all about what activities you are doing....you can review your regulations with them
2016-03-17 06:23:43 PM degestrom we talk every lunch
2016-03-17 06:23:53 PM rose48mary good idea
2016-03-17 06:24:01 PM kathyhughes Look at FTag 248
2016-03-17 06:24:07 PM vincentk can you be a little more specific with regulations?
2016-03-17 06:24:09 PM kathym That's sounds good, I don't think many think about regs.
2016-03-17 06:24:10 PM vincentk oh, nm!
2016-03-17 06:24:13 PM sonjen you have fantastic ideas Kathy :)
2016-03-17 06:24:20 PM reneebragg great idea i did it with my Admin. who is my advisor for this course
2016-03-17 06:24:36 PM vincentk that's a great idea. they love telling me and everyone else what to do for our residents. its my turn to speak up
2016-03-17 06:24:38 PM kathym I will re-read it.
2016-03-17 06:24:39 PM kathyhughes And perhaps give them all a copy
2016-03-17 06:24:46 PM ashleyd mine is our social services coordinator who has been there forever and a day.
2016-03-17 06:24:48 PM edrar good idea
2016-03-17 06:24:51 PM kathyhughes as they are all mentioned in our regs
2016-03-17 06:24:58 PM teresab i will re-read it too.
2016-03-17 06:25:09 PM rose48mary me too
2016-03-17 06:25:16 PM degestrom me too
2016-03-17 06:25:17 PM kathym We could do that at an All Staff. Have the heads and assistants stay after and just talk about hem.
2016-03-17 06:25:26 PM kathym them
2016-03-17 06:25:28 PM kathyhughes and they can get a defienicy as well for activiites
2016-03-17 06:25:42 PM kathym How do they get a deficiency for activities?
2016-03-17 06:25:42 PM jamiet1 our new assistant admin has activity and social work experience and she has been super helpful with large activities and helping to educate staf
2016-03-17 06:25:46 PM ashleyd we have been having a lot of abuse inservices lately. state readiness! yay!
2016-03-17 06:25:53 PM 85cindy I will look at that again, Giving them a copy is good. My Adm is my advisor as well
2016-03-17 06:25:59 PM vincentk you're so lucky, jamiet1! good for you
2016-03-17 06:26:03 PM kathyhughes Re read FTag248
2016-03-17 06:26:09 PM edrar will do
2016-03-17 06:26:10 PM kathym OKAY.
2016-03-17 06:26:24 PM 85cindy wiil do
2016-03-17 06:26:27 PM reneebragg I started training a new act. coord. and gave her a copy. The admin. meet with her and she told her she need the regs.. She told her that she aready got one from me. I made you proud Kathy
2016-03-17 06:26:34 PM kathyhughes The surveyors interview the staff about activities
2016-03-17 06:26:45 PM teresab in mepap 1 we did some research that lead me to a page with deficiency's it was interesting to read and i did it for all the facilities i would consider working at some day.
2016-03-17 06:27:09 PM reneebragg good idea teresa
2016-03-17 06:27:12 PM kathyhughes thanks Renee
2016-03-17 06:27:30 PM vincentk will surveyors ask you questions regarding specific criteria with regulations?
2016-03-17 06:27:39 PM ashleyd we were surveyed in december... they were curious what we provided for our isolation residents.
2016-03-17 06:27:40 PM kathyhughes yes
2016-03-17 06:27:48 PM teresab thanks renee i figure if they were bad they might need help and if they were good i might want to know the secret
2016-03-17 06:27:52 PM kathyhughes For example
2016-03-17 06:27:59 PM reneebragg I never saw the regs. till it took this course
2016-03-17 06:28:12 PM kathyhughes a surveyor asked me about a resident who was on Hospice
2016-03-17 06:28:13 PM degestrom I did not see them either
2016-03-17 06:28:14 PM edrar me either
2016-03-17 06:28:46 PM kathyhughes He was concerned that I wrote that she attended music programs
2016-03-17 06:28:48 PM rose48mary The survey team was really looking at our dementia unit this time
2016-03-17 06:28:48 PM degestrom we one on one all our hospice residents unless they refuse
2016-03-17 06:28:52 PM reneebragg Did you tell them Kathy what you were doing for them
2016-03-17 06:28:54 PM ashleyd they also wanted to see our careplanning for residents in isolation.
2016-03-17 06:28:56 PM sonjen we are about to be in our window for survey, nervous!
2016-03-17 06:28:59 PM vincentk was it just that the care plan wasn't updated?
2016-03-17 06:29:06 PM kathyhughes He could not figure out why we would take her out of her room
2016-03-17 06:29:09 PM vincentk i know they can get down to the nitty and gritty with care plans/resident summaries
2016-03-17 06:29:16 PM kathyhughes So I just looked at him for a moment
2016-03-17 06:29:17 PM kathym Kathy, I am going to ask a real dumb questions. the regs we are talking about are in week 3 of M-1 I believe. Is that right?
2016-03-17 06:29:23 PM degestrom we have a singer that goes room to room
2016-03-17 06:29:25 PM vincentk but just bc she's on hospice doesn't mean they cant do things they still enjoy!
2016-03-17 06:29:35 PM reneebragg Did you tell them the resident wasn't dead haha
2016-03-17 06:29:37 PM ashleyd so true!
2016-03-17 06:29:54 PM kathyhughes and said which regulation stated that a Hospice Resident could not go to activities
2016-03-17 06:30:01 PM kathyhughes He was dumbfounded
2016-03-17 06:30:03 PM vincentk good for you!
2016-03-17 06:30:06 PM degestrom some of ours do
2016-03-17 06:30:09 PM kathym Yeah!!!!
2016-03-17 06:30:09 PM 85cindy Kathy question .. should the CNA remove their gloves right away when they are through any care before they touch the residents wheel chair ? or hair?
2016-03-17 06:30:10 PM teresab good answer kathy
2016-03-17 06:30:16 PM reneebragg That's right
2016-03-17 06:30:36 PM kathyhughes Yes Cindy
2016-03-17 06:30:42 PM degestrom funny how that goes
2016-03-17 06:30:44 PM edrar I hate it when they leave residents in the rooms. We don't know what they are thinking or hearing.
2016-03-17 06:30:47 PM kathym We don't take out hospice resident's to activities unless the family wishes them to go.
2016-03-17 06:30:50 PM kathyhughes it should be covered in infection control
2016-03-17 06:31:01 PM edrar Some we do, but not all
2016-03-17 06:31:10 PM kathym We try to respect the families at this time.
2016-03-17 06:31:13 PM kathyhughes Yes Kathy it is the regulations in week 3
2016-03-17 06:31:16 PM rose48mary us too
2016-03-17 06:31:17 PM ashleyd it depends on there state I believe
2016-03-17 06:31:19 PM kathym Thanks.
2016-03-17 06:31:25 PM reneebragg We let them know what's going on and ask them if they want to participate
2016-03-17 06:31:25 PM jamiet1 ours still do, if they are able to. Otherwise we do 1:1 things or music
2016-03-17 06:31:27 PM vincentk Hospice is so vague. some people can be on hospice for a couple of years. they just receive extra care, comfort, and visits so they are comfortable, doesn't mean they're going to die in 1 month.
2016-03-17 06:31:33 PM edrar yes right ashley
2016-03-17 06:31:34 PM teresab we bring our hospice down to activities unless they are actively dying then we take music and such to their room
2016-03-17 06:31:49 PM kathym Go idea teresab.
2016-03-17 06:31:55 PM kathyhughes But if you are ever in doubt when an inspector asks you something you should ask about which regulation
2016-03-17 06:31:55 PM kathym good
2016-03-17 06:32:02 PM vincentk good idea
2016-03-17 06:32:06 PM rose48mary we bring them if they want to go..
2016-03-17 06:32:06 PM rebecca we treat each situation as needed
2016-03-17 06:32:07 PM degestrom we also provide music
2016-03-17 06:32:14 PM edrar We have a man that came 5 years ago and is still on hospice. Not really seeing him go to soon now either.
2016-03-17 06:32:16 PM kathyhughes right
2016-03-17 06:32:19 PM reneebragg If they are really bad we take music in if the family wants it
2016-03-17 06:32:26 PM jamiet1 we had a man that was hospice for 3years and came to everything, loved being social and passed away last fall, it was sad
2016-03-17 06:32:33 PM kathym WE will take music in, too.
2016-03-17 06:32:41 PM rose48mary some residents are on hospice but the still are very active and want to do activities
2016-03-17 06:32:44 PM degestrom we have people on hospice that go to physical therapy
2016-03-17 06:32:55 PM vincentk and if you don't know the answer on the spot, you can tell the inspector you'll get back to them, correct?
2016-03-17 06:33:01 PM rose48mary residents can be on hospice for quite a long time
2016-03-17 06:33:02 PM kathyhughes right
2016-03-17 06:33:17 PM kathyhughes don't make something up
2016-03-17 06:33:18 PM reneebragg yes they can rose
2016-03-17 06:33:24 PM edrar I always thought it meant they were going to die in a few days.
2016-03-17 06:33:25 PM kathym Our resident's go on hospice if they are in the process of actively dying.
2016-03-17 06:33:39 PM ashleyd I still have the hardest time keeping pallitive, comfort care, and hospice straight.
2016-03-17 06:33:43 PM degestrom we have had some that have come off hospice and are doing well
2016-03-17 06:33:58 PM rose48mary we have had residents on hospice then taken off because of better improvement
2016-03-17 06:34:01 PM kathyhughes Hospice is ordered when a person has a terminal diagnosis
2016-03-17 06:34:21 PM jamiet1 I did a care plan with a man the other day who just started hospice and has less than 6 months to live but he was still interested in doing what he could
2016-03-17 06:34:32 PM kathym But even with a terminal diag, they can still be active?
2016-03-17 06:34:34 PM vincentk quality of life over quantity!
2016-03-17 06:34:37 PM kathyhughes Then we have to address that
2016-03-17 06:34:43 PM reneebragg yes kathym
2016-03-17 06:34:45 PM rose48mary some
2016-03-17 06:34:47 PM kathyhughes Right Kathy
2016-03-17 06:34:54 PM rose48mary depends on the resident
2016-03-17 06:34:55 PM 85cindy It ihas been addressed since they were wearing them out in the hall. That has stopped, but I do still see some of them wearing the gloves as they put the finishing touches on like brushing hair , fixing clothes and touchuing the wheelchair. My staff has issues with touching the wheelchairs after,
2016-03-17 06:34:56 PM kathym Thank you.
2016-03-17 06:35:23 PM ashleyd The hardest thing I have is dealing with the families. They break my heart.
2016-03-17 06:35:31 PM rose48mary me too
2016-03-17 06:35:40 PM edrar Some of them do and some make me angry.
2016-03-17 06:35:43 PM jamiet1 mine too, they start crying and so do I
2016-03-17 06:35:43 PM kathym I'm not a CNA but I do put gloves on for certain things then take them oof.
2016-03-17 06:35:53 PM kathyhughes then perhaps your staff should carry wipes with them I would check with the nurse in charge of infection control
2016-03-17 06:36:29 PM ashleyd We had a hospice patient one time.... the daughter got mad because the patient had an episode and didn't die!!
2016-03-17 06:36:49 PM jamiet1 oh my!
2016-03-17 06:36:51 PM reneebragg that's horrible
2016-03-17 06:37:10 PM kathyhughes families can be interesting
2016-03-17 06:37:11 PM edrar We also have a lady that keeps telling her mother to go on and die. I didn't believe it until i heard it myself. and this resident is one fo my favorite
2016-03-17 06:37:30 PM vincentk families are tough. i just remind myself that most of the time they have their loved ones best interest at heart, and they say or do (ridiculous things) because they just don't know and are not educated.
2016-03-17 06:37:31 PM reneebragg so sad
2016-03-17 06:37:33 PM jamiet1 we had a family member tell us to just call them when the mother dies, terrible
2016-03-17 06:37:51 PM vincentk we have a familiy who are keeping their mother on FULL CODE, and she has the worst kind of dementia and from noon to night, yells out.
2016-03-17 06:37:54 PM edrar Ahhh, that is sad
2016-03-17 06:38:01 PM kathym We have some families that are just as kind as can be. they are very appreciative of what staff is doing to nake their time with fmaily comfortable.
2016-03-17 06:38:08 PM ashleyd that is so sad.
2016-03-17 06:38:21 PM kathym make
2016-03-17 06:38:26 PM edrar We do too kathym.
2016-03-17 06:38:35 PM vincentk we had a care conference with them and addressed the code status, and the significance of this, and what it would mean if we had to send their mother out to the hospital. it didn't change their minds. They don't know they'd be torturing her rather than helpng her
2016-03-17 06:38:37 PM degestrom have to change those gloves after every action with resident
2016-03-17 06:38:42 PM degestrom left the chat room
2016-03-17 06:38:46 PM kathym If you just love them through their hard time, theywill love you forever.
2016-03-17 06:38:48 PM 85cindy We do and I havve mention my thoughts, however I get mixed reactions . DON is very protective of her staff . I am careful as to how I come across.
2016-03-17 06:39:00 PM degestrom enter the chat room
2016-03-17 06:39:15 PM reneebragg so true ciny
2016-03-17 06:39:20 PM kathym And, theyeven come back to volunteer.
2016-03-17 06:39:22 PM kathyhughes We have to remember that families have gone through losses and that they might not be aware of what we are trying to do and they are filled with guilt
2016-03-17 06:39:33 PM degestrom and some are angry
2016-03-17 06:39:43 PM kathyhughes right
2016-03-17 06:39:48 PM vincentk exactly.
2016-03-17 06:39:52 PM reneebragg so true

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