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2016-03-17 06:40:04 PM jamiet1 I know, but it is frustrating
2016-03-17 06:40:04 PM vincentk that's why i have to remind myself that they just have their loved ones interests at heart and just don't see/know what we know/see
2016-03-17 06:40:05 PM sonjen and the person we know in the home may be a completely different person to the family
2016-03-17 06:40:08 PM rose48mary so true
2016-03-17 06:40:10 PM edrar Well i've told my family if i get dementia or alzheimers to put me in a home and leave me and don't come bACK. i DON'T WANT them to have to see me like that.
2016-03-17 06:40:13 PM vincentk definitely
2016-03-17 06:40:18 PM kathym Yes they can be angry but not at us. Kathy said they may be having guilt over placing their loved one in a place that is not their own.
2016-03-17 06:40:22 PM kathyhughes and some families have a ton of legal stuff that they never prepared for and are frustrated
2016-03-17 06:40:30 PM degestrom absolute guilt
2016-03-17 06:40:30 PM kathym Yep.
2016-03-17 06:40:40 PM rose48mary yes
2016-03-17 06:40:54 PM kathyhughes It is harder on the family than most of the residents
2016-03-17 06:41:02 PM reneebragg yep going thru that right now
2016-03-17 06:41:03 PM ashleyd One thing I will say... always be careful who you make your POA!
2016-03-17 06:41:03 PM degestrom it is!
2016-03-17 06:41:03 PM vincentk true. very true Kathy
2016-03-17 06:41:06 PM kathyhughes I won't have visitors
2016-03-17 06:41:06 PM edrar It is hard for some of them to place them, but its the best thing for them and the family
2016-03-17 06:41:13 PM kathym All we can do is empathetic.
2016-03-17 06:41:14 PM degestrom me either
2016-03-17 06:41:22 PM rose48mary we have some families that are very donated to their family members..even with the dementia..i think thats what is great
2016-03-17 06:41:23 PM vincentk just support as best as possible.
2016-03-17 06:41:30 PM rebecca isn't this where some of those listening skills are an asset
2016-03-17 06:41:33 PM rose48mary i agree
2016-03-17 06:41:58 PM kathym We have one gentleman that comes in to visit his wife everyday. EVERYDAY. Tha is so cool.
2016-03-17 06:42:09 PM kathym that
2016-03-17 06:42:09 PM ashleyd thats so sweet!
2016-03-17 06:42:09 PM kathyhughes Yes listening to them and educating them
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2016-03-17 06:42:17 PM edrar I have a gentleman that does the same. sweet
2016-03-17 06:42:19 PM reneebragg We have a resident that's 102 and is slowly getting weaker and her family is there every day
2016-03-17 06:42:36 PM rose48mary me too..
2016-03-17 06:42:42 PM reneebragg They always have come to be with her
2016-03-17 06:42:42 PM vincentk one of the biggest things that i tell our families who are having a hard time coping with their loved one who now has dementia/alzheimer's, and isn't like the person they knew before--- i tell them, to say goodbye to the (for instance their mom), the Mom they knew before and to say hello and love their mom for who she is now. it makes it easier to accept, rather than torturing ourselvesc comparing them now to then
2016-03-17 06:42:49 PM jamiet1 you can really form great relationships with family and they build that trust with you
2016-03-17 06:42:51 PM rose48mary wives or husband so faithful...love it
2016-03-17 06:42:56 PM kathym I just love seeing the families tough it out, you might say because of the love that is still there.
2016-03-17 06:42:57 PM 85cindy It is a lot to have to deal with and is very overwhelming for the family. I think it is still so importanrt to have family visit if they can. I feel the resident somehow knows they are there. I went through this with my own mother and i am glad even though it is hard to see that I was there.
2016-03-17 06:43:09 PM edrar My family will come but i really would'nt want them to. To see me slobber and cry and talk out of my head.
2016-03-17 06:43:25 PM rose48mary these couples have been married 50-60 years thats devotion
2016-03-17 06:43:28 PM teresab sometimes the family frustration is in the fact that you are engaging their loved one and they don't know how. last week i turned on one of my young residents favorite music and told his daughter to dance with him. i said if you lead i bet he will follow this music seems to pick him up, and she said it was his favorite. she was so happy to have that time with him, and he can not communicate so it was beautiful.
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2016-03-17 06:43:31 PM kathyhughes Yes it is
2016-03-17 06:43:35 PM jamiet1 I do that now...why wait till I am old...LOL
2016-03-17 06:43:41 PM rose48mary lol
2016-03-17 06:43:44 PM vincentk lol jamie
2016-03-17 06:43:53 PM edrar lol
2016-03-17 06:43:59 PM ashleyd lol\
2016-03-17 06:44:06 PM reneebragg lol
2016-03-17 06:44:07 PM degestrom ha
2016-03-17 06:44:08 PM vincentk aw good job, teresab!
2016-03-17 06:44:08 PM kathyhughes sometimes we need to give the families permission to do something with them
2016-03-17 06:44:30 PM edrar That's true
2016-03-17 06:44:30 PM reneebragg yes so true
2016-03-17 06:44:34 PM kathyhughes Some families aren't informed that they can take their parent out for a ride
2016-03-17 06:44:36 PM kathym I was with a family when their mopm passed and we sang her favorite hymns.
2016-03-17 06:44:37 PM 85cindy That is true. They feel unsure about what they can do.
2016-03-17 06:44:37 PM degestrom yes true
2016-03-17 06:44:38 PM vincentk I did a presentation for our support group called "meaningful visits" if anyone ever wants a copy i can email it to you. i put it in powerpoint format
2016-03-17 06:44:45 PM jamiet1 I do a lot of education and encouragmetn with my families when I meet them
2016-03-17 06:44:49 PM rose48mary thats awesome
2016-03-17 06:44:51 PM vincentk but it sounds like you all know what you're doing :)
2016-03-17 06:44:54 PM kathyhughes that would be great Kim
2016-03-17 06:45:00 PM degestrom good pointers
2016-03-17 06:45:04 PM kathym vincentk I would like to check that one out.
2016-03-17 06:45:10 PM degestrom me too
2016-03-17 06:45:23 PM vincentk I'll post the powerpoint in the forum tomorrow at work.
2016-03-17 06:45:26 PM reneebragg that's awesome braggrenee@aol.com thanks
2016-03-17 06:45:27 PM 85cindy Like that idea! Yes Vince please forward.
2016-03-17 06:45:30 PM degestrom excellent
2016-03-17 06:45:31 PM kathyhughes great
2016-03-17 06:45:32 PM teresab so true kathy. they have connected with their loved one in such a different way then we do, sometimes they just need suttle hints on how to do it.
2016-03-17 06:45:40 PM kathym vincentk Thanks.
2016-03-17 06:45:43 PM edrar I would like that Vincent
2016-03-17 06:45:46 PM jamiet1 right!
2016-03-17 06:45:52 PM vincentk great! it'll be there tomorrow :)
2016-03-17 06:45:58 PM degestrom thanks
2016-03-17 06:46:03 PM edrar Thank you
2016-03-17 06:46:11 PM teresab i would love the link vincent
2016-03-17 06:46:29 PM rebecca thank you
2016-03-17 06:46:36 PM 85cindy Thanks!!
2016-03-17 06:46:38 PM kathyhughes We need to educate the whole spectrum of the facility
2016-03-17 06:46:47 PM kathym vincentk You are so right
2016-03-17 06:46:49 PM reneebragg yes we do
2016-03-17 06:46:49 PM rose48mary yes i agree
2016-03-17 06:46:50 PM vincentk you're all welcome!
2016-03-17 06:46:52 PM 85cindy Agreed
2016-03-17 06:46:54 PM vincentk agreed
2016-03-17 06:46:58 PM degestrom good idea
2016-03-17 06:47:08 PM kathyhughes including staff, families, residents, volunteers and the community
2016-03-17 06:47:08 PM edrar that really kinda excites me to pass it on. Never really thought about it that way, but they could use this info
2016-03-17 06:47:09 PM kathym I meant my answer for everyone. You are so right, Kathy.
2016-03-17 06:47:14 PM kathyhughes we are the only ones that can
2016-03-17 06:47:34 PM vincentk i was wondering what i was right about lol
2016-03-17 06:47:36 PM edrar yep
2016-03-17 06:47:40 PM kathyhughes You all have the tools through this course
2016-03-17 06:47:53 PM vincentk it's very empowering to hear. Thanks Kathy
2016-03-17 06:47:57 PM kathym I am hoping at my meeting next we, we might be able to do this with the acitvity staff and get them excited about passing it on to thier staff.
2016-03-17 06:47:57 PM edrar a lot of tools
2016-03-17 06:47:59 PM kathyhughes I try
2016-03-17 06:48:01 PM reneebragg Well my Act Director doesn't do that at all. She is an art major doesnt have much of a personality really
2016-03-17 06:48:23 PM kathyhughes then I would make copies of the regs for activities to all of them
2016-03-17 06:48:25 PM jamiet1 that was my previous director!
2016-03-17 06:48:28 PM 85cindy That is true , just going about in the right way
2016-03-17 06:48:32 PM reneebragg I hope I will continue to educate them and myself
2016-03-17 06:48:40 PM ashleyd I think that having a personality is a must for our jobs!!
2016-03-17 06:48:54 PM jamiet1 def!!
2016-03-17 06:48:56 PM reneebragg I did 4 inservice on the regs to the nurses
2016-03-17 06:48:56 PM degestrom you bet it is
2016-03-17 06:48:57 PM sonjen absolutely
2016-03-17 06:49:03 PM teresab it is must
2016-03-17 06:49:03 PM kathym You have to having something to give to the residents and all the others.
2016-03-17 06:49:17 PM vincentk and a, "roll off your shoulders" attitude (H)
2016-03-17 06:49:22 PM edrar I do too, If you don't lke people don't get into a job that needs you to work wioth them
2016-03-17 06:49:38 PM rose48mary i agree
2016-03-17 06:49:38 PM kathyhughes You can do it...you just have to get out there and be proactive
2016-03-17 06:49:41 PM kathym yep. let it roll.:D
2016-03-17 06:49:45 PM teresab so true you really have days when residents are upset about something and heckle you.
2016-03-17 06:49:54 PM edrar Yea!
2016-03-17 06:50:18 PM kathym You need to be proactive in love.
2016-03-17 06:50:42 PM edrar I have one that fires me once in awhile, and then she wil tell me to take the day off, i work to hard. LOL she was a DON in her life
2016-03-17 06:50:56 PM reneebragg Amen I think she is on her way out the door we are building 60 bed memory care and she was told she will not be the activities director. she is the reason why i am taking this wonderful course i knew there was more that she wasnt teaching and i could do better
2016-03-17 06:50:56 PM rose48mary lol
2016-03-17 06:51:16 PM vincentk good for you renee
2016-03-17 06:51:22 PM degestrom funny, I have a guy that thinks he works at the facility
2016-03-17 06:51:23 PM ashleyd I have an retired RN that wrote me a sick note and signed it for me to leave early!
2016-03-17 06:51:31 PM edrar That is funny
2016-03-17 06:51:31 PM jamiet1 funny! I had a nurse that would tell me that all the time, jokingly
2016-03-17 06:51:33 PM kathyhughes Anything else that I can help with?????
2016-03-17 06:51:36 PM degestrom that is great ashley
2016-03-17 06:51:38 PM 85cindy Personality is huge! I feel if you can do this job and be successful, you can be put in any sitiuation and do well.
2016-03-17 06:52:00 PM edrar How can one not love these beautiful people. It makes my life bright
2016-03-17 06:52:04 PM teresab i have one lady that loves me to death all day long, the caregivers come get me if they have a problem with her. but every night she sits on a bench across from activities and calls me a whore.... just gotta laugh to yourself and wonder why
2016-03-17 06:52:08 PM rose48mary i agree
2016-03-17 06:52:13 PM reneebragg Positive Attitude is a must I love my job
2016-03-17 06:52:15 PM vincentk this was a great convo, Kathy. THank you!
2016-03-17 06:52:22 PM kathyhughes you are welcome
2016-03-17 06:52:25 PM ashleyd thanks Kathy!
2016-03-17 06:52:26 PM edrar lol Teresa
2016-03-17 06:52:28 PM kathyhughes Have a great week
2016-03-17 06:52:30 PM rose48mary thanks kathy
2016-03-17 06:52:30 PM degestrom great chat
2016-03-17 06:52:36 PM rose48mary have a great week too
2016-03-17 06:52:40 PM degestrom yes, thanks kathy
2016-03-17 06:52:43 PM sonjen thanks everyone
2016-03-17 06:52:46 PM reneebragg you to kathy thank you
2016-03-17 06:52:48 PM rose48mary bye all
2016-03-17 06:52:50 PM edrar Very good chat. Everyone have a great week.
2016-03-17 06:52:54 PM degestrom bye
2016-03-17 06:52:56 PM ashleyd bye everyone!
2016-03-17 06:52:57 PM kathym Kathy, I want to thank you for the opportunityto just sit in with y'all and see what M-2 is like. I really enjoyed talking with y'all. I am going to sign off, but best wishes to all you M-2 folks.(})
2016-03-17 06:53:00 PM 85cindy Thanks Kathy! Everyone great ideas!!! Have a good week!
2016-03-17 06:53:01 PM vincentk enjoy the week and weekend everyone. Until next time, ciao!
2016-03-17 06:53:02 PM edrar We still have 6 minutes
2016-03-17 06:53:14 PM rebecca Have a great week and thanks to all
2016-03-17 06:53:16 PM kathyhughes I know
2016-03-17 06:53:18 PM jamiet1 Our facilty take visitors from our local school job coaching, most of them have disabilities. I find it hard to have them as volunteers, we are doing more babysitting with them. Do you have any suggestions
2016-03-17 06:53:18 PM edrar thanks kathym
2016-03-17 06:53:25 PM kathyhughes I ask early
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2016-03-17 06:54:20 PM degestrom we have som\e disabilities volunteers and limit them to one hour at a time and they need a staff person form their facility with them
2016-03-17 06:54:22 PM kathyhughes I would meet with their instructor and both of you discuss what the goals are for your program and theirs
2016-03-17 06:54:29 PM vincentk haha, yikes teresab!
2016-03-17 06:54:42 PM vincentk hope you don't have nightmares about that! lol
2016-03-17 06:54:49 PM reneebragg Jamie we let them help clean the dinning room tables and sweep the floors, put the menu, napkins bascially set the tABLE FOR NEXT MEAL
2016-03-17 06:54:50 PM 85cindy That is a good way to handle it.
2016-03-17 06:55:01 PM kathyhughes If you dont think it will fit in your facility then perhaps they should look elsewhere
2016-03-17 06:55:15 PM degestrom we have them during exercise, works well
2016-03-17 06:55:31 PM reneebragg There instructor is in there with them
2016-03-17 06:55:36 PM jamiet1 its just hard, because they need so much attention that you cant' focus on teh residents
2016-03-17 06:55:44 PM teresab i don't have nightmares but i do kinda get a kick out of it. I just love her no matter which her it there.
2016-03-17 06:55:50 PM 85cindy We have some of our residents help with cleaaning up. it makes theem feel good and it distracts them.
2016-03-17 06:55:54 PM kathyhughes right and you should tell the person in charge of the program
2016-03-17 06:55:57 PM reneebragg They dont do anything with our residents
2016-03-17 06:56:00 PM teresab sundowners
2016-03-17 06:56:00 PM degestrom we have them help lead the exercise, or so they think
2016-03-17 06:56:02 PM edrar I get a kick out of all of the things they do like that.
2016-03-17 06:56:03 PM vincentk i'm only kidding : ) it is wild how the brain works! it's good that she shows you love too!
2016-03-17 06:56:06 PM vincentk exactly
2016-03-17 06:56:54 PM rebecca not all volunteers are appropriate for all activities--you must make the match a positive experience
2016-03-17 06:56:57 PM jamiet1 The one that I have been dealling iwth lately is very understanding, not so much the other coach. But I will have to do it!
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2016-03-17 06:57:06 PM ashleyd You all have a good rest of the week! Talk to you all next week! :)
2016-03-17 06:57:06 PM degestrom right rebecca
2016-03-17 06:57:13 PM kathyhughes Have a good week all
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2016-03-17 06:57:16 PM edrar Yes thats for sure you don't need someone you have to babysit
2016-03-17 06:57:20 PM degestrom You too Kathy
2016-03-17 06:57:21 PM teresab i absolutely love working with the residents i cannot imagine a better life.
2016-03-17 06:57:23 PM reneebragg good night all
2016-03-17 06:57:28 PM edrar Thanks Kathy, Have a great week everyone.
2016-03-17 06:57:34 PM vincentk agreed teresab
2016-03-17 06:57:36 PM 85cindy It truly is amazing to be with our folks . to be so lucky to share in their day. To be able to make feel good.
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2016-03-17 06:57:45 PM degestrom good week all
2016-03-17 06:57:47 PM kathym teresab Me too, teresab.
2016-03-17 06:57:48 PM kathyhughes Good night all
2016-03-17 06:57:48 PM vincentk they show you a whole other side of life and it's so rewarding.
2016-03-17 06:58:00 PM edrar People say we are special to work with them, I think we are blessed to work with them
2016-03-17 06:58:04 PM kathym Good night, Kathy and thanks again.
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2016-03-17 06:58:18 PM vincentk agreed again!
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2016-03-17 06:58:21 PM teresab it is vincent, and you get the chance to laugh outside and sometimes inside....good night everyone.
2016-03-17 06:58:26 PM 85cindy It is!! I feel we are blessed.
2016-03-17 06:58:30 PM jamiet1 Good night all! HAve a great weekend!
2016-03-17 06:58:32 PM vincentk And that's a wrap. Night everyone
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2016-03-17 06:58:38 PM edrar Vincent you are so agreeable. LOL
2016-03-17 06:58:40 PM 85cindy Goodnight!!
2016-03-17 06:58:41 PM vincentk lol
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2016-03-17 06:58:49 PM vincentk i know. must be the long week!
2016-03-17 06:59:01 PM edrar jlol Good night all
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2016-03-22 05:35:55 PM kathyhughes Hello Sue
2016-03-22 05:36:01 PM kathyhughes How are you doing?
2016-03-22 05:36:24 PM sue123 Hey Kathy I am doing good, how about yourself?
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2016-03-22 05:36:33 PM kathyhughes Doing great!
2016-03-22 05:36:39 PM kathyhughes Hello Belinda
2016-03-22 05:36:48 PM belindaf hello Kathy
2016-03-22 05:36:56 PM kathyhughes How are you doing?
2016-03-22 05:37:06 PM belindaf wonderful and yourself?
2016-03-22 05:37:13 PM kathyhughes Doing great!
2016-03-22 05:37:21 PM belindaf yay. Good to hear.
2016-03-22 05:37:38 PM kathyhughes Its almost Spring here!
2016-03-22 05:37:41 PM belindaf Hope you havent had that nasty flu bug
2016-03-22 05:37:59 PM kathyhughes Not yet just some colds
2016-03-22 05:38:23 PM belindaf I did for a couple of weeks, then it went away, here ist cold past 2 days
2016-03-22 05:38:37 PM sue123 I am the only one in my family that has not had the flu... all got flu shots , so theirs was only a mild case.
2016-03-22 05:38:38 PM belindaf cold for us anyway
2016-03-22 05:38:47 PM belindaf I got a flu shot too
2016-03-22 05:38:52 PM kathyhughes I am sure that it will get warmer soon
2016-03-22 05:39:03 PM belindaf twomorrow will be around 80-
2016-03-22 05:39:10 PM kathyhughes there ya go!
2016-03-22 05:39:19 PM belindaf regular florida weather
2016-03-22 05:39:37 PM sue123 We have been in the 80's then next days 40"s but tht is Texas.
2016-03-22 05:39:59 PM belindaf my daughter in law is from houston area
2016-03-22 05:40:26 PM sue123 I am from Fort Worth , about 4-5 hours away.
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2016-03-22 05:40:44 PM belindaf texas is a big state
2016-03-22 05:40:54 PM kathyhughes Yes it is!
2016-03-22 05:41:20 PM sue123 It is a very big state. My daughter drove to El Paso by herself and it was 12 hours.
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2016-03-22 05:41:49 PM belindaf questionfor you, ombudsman? do I just call the number listed on display for residnets?
2016-03-22 05:41:54 PM kathyhughes Hello Lakia and June