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2019-12-05 07:39:16 PM edithscarrillo well the other day one of my residents recieved some packages, they were vitamins and calcium, I had the CNA's manager to go with me cuz you can tell it was some type of medicine, we asked for permission to open the package in front of him and she kept the bottles and give them to the nurse
2019-12-05 07:39:27 PM kathyhughes I sure it was Francine and you could have been cited for it
2019-12-05 07:39:36 PM merrellsherry Francine..wasnt that unlawful to tamper with the rsidents mail?
2019-12-05 07:39:55 PM cmccoy yes it is no matter what
2019-12-05 07:40:25 PM kaylenbaringer so what would u have done in that situation kathy
2019-12-05 07:41:23 PM kathyhughes I would have deliverd it to the resident....I had numerous residents who got stuff and I would not interfere #1 is is their home as we all say and #2 it was their mail
2019-12-05 07:41:39 PM kathyhughes Now I would have noted it and kept a record of it
2019-12-05 07:41:59 PM amandas and maybe informed the don or dcd
2019-12-05 07:42:00 PM merrellsherry we would have let them open the mail and then reported it if it was smoked in the building...no smoking allowed
2019-12-05 07:42:00 PM kaylenbaringer ok
2019-12-05 07:42:17 PM francine The resident threatened to call state because we violated his rights and threatened to call the police because he wasn't asked first. A mess for sure!!! The admin did talk to the police and I'm not sure what was said but everything worked out. I think they threatened him with a 30 day eviction notice
2019-12-05 07:42:54 PM kathyhughes Oh my...first we all say it is their home
2019-12-05 07:43:07 PM francine RIGHT!!!!!!
2019-12-05 07:43:20 PM merrellsherry that sounds like intimidation
2019-12-05 07:43:23 PM edithscarrillo but we also have rules!
2019-12-05 07:43:26 PM kathyhughes And I was involved with a resident who had their pot stolen from their night stand
2019-12-05 07:43:39 PM kathyhughes the ADM came to me and asked what to do
2019-12-05 07:43:42 PM jcullum What happened with that?
2019-12-05 07:43:43 PM hmorris Resident first (lol)
2019-12-05 07:43:44 PM sarah OH WOW
2019-12-05 07:43:46 PM kathyhughes here is what I said
2019-12-05 07:43:48 PM rebeccarodriguez pot?
2019-12-05 07:43:51 PM francine LOL
2019-12-05 07:44:00 PM rebeccarodriguez weed??
2019-12-05 07:44:06 PM kathyhughes YES WEED
2019-12-05 07:44:10 PM rebeccarodriguez LOL
2019-12-05 07:44:11 PM kaylenbaringer that would be a mess
2019-12-05 07:44:20 PM cmccoy omsbusman
2019-12-05 07:44:32 PM rebeccarodriguez I didn't expect that from you Kathy, my bad, lol
2019-12-05 07:44:36 PM cmccoy they have rights
2019-12-05 07:44:37 PM hmorris was it legal in the state at that time?
2019-12-05 07:44:51 PM kaylenbaringer like the ones you pull from the garden ?????? ha ha ha
2019-12-05 07:45:05 PM kathyhughes You have 2 options...the first is to call the state and let them know that it was stolen, except you will need to tell them that the staff went though the persons nightstand with out their permission
2019-12-05 07:45:25 PM kathyhughes And you will then need to write a plan of correction for that one
2019-12-05 07:45:35 PM jcullum Was it stolen by staff?
2019-12-05 07:46:18 PM kathyhughes The second option is to call the police and tell them that the residents pot (weed) was stolen and I am sure that the headlines in the morning paper will look great
2019-12-05 07:46:35 PM cmccoy wow
2019-12-05 07:47:02 PM kathyhughes We never knew who stole it but I was comfortable enough to assume staff...trust me I did not work in a good part of the city
2019-12-05 07:47:20 PM cmccoy so what do you do if a resident says they are missing something they never had Kathy.
2019-12-05 07:47:36 PM merrellsherry we have had to call state police a few times because of residents using drugs. Their roomates have rights too
2019-12-05 07:47:40 PM amandas thats a good question cmccoy
2019-12-05 07:47:55 PM kaylenbaringer my adm just replaces it even when he knows they never had it
2019-12-05 07:48:04 PM kathyhughes So we apolgized to the residentsand did an inservice about how people would be fired if they went through residents stuff without permission
2019-12-05 07:48:43 PM amandas if theres no inventory sheet done we choose to replace the items but if staff did an inventory sheet and it wasnt on there we usually dont replace it
2019-12-05 07:48:45 PM kathyhughes There are many residents that did that.. but this was a unique cercumstance
2019-12-05 07:48:46 PM jcullum We have a resident in assisted living who takes things and fills her pockets.\
2019-12-05 07:48:49 PM francine We have a resident who recently said an aide took 80.00 from him. Of course there's an investigation going on but how do you even prove the resident had 80.00. It's a lose lose situation
2019-12-05 07:49:03 PM rebeccarodriguez It's like an episode from Cops where someone called the police because their drugs were stolen. 8-|
2019-12-05 07:49:16 PM kathyhughes Sometimes it is just easier to replace the item or money
2019-12-05 07:49:21 PM francine lol lol lol
2019-12-05 07:49:34 PM cmccoy that's what i thought
2019-12-05 07:49:49 PM jcullum It probably makes it harder when it is an illegal substance.
2019-12-05 07:49:52 PM amandas it really is.. if its low cost well replace it...
2019-12-05 07:50:09 PM cmccoy true
2019-12-05 07:50:24 PM kathyhughes I knew that the resident had the pot (it was not legal) because he had reported to be earlier that day
2019-12-05 07:50:27 PM hmorris our admin does not replace things if there is no inventory sheet. they said that is their risk not to fill it out.
2019-12-05 07:50:33 PM francine They will eventually replace the money but what about the aide? It's crazy
2019-12-05 07:51:00 PM kathyhughes Its actually customer service and the cost of doing business as one ADM explained to me
2019-12-05 07:51:06 PM hmorris did they drug test the staff that day?
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2019-12-05 07:51:34 PM kathyhughes no because it happened over Christmas and we had no way of doing that
2019-12-05 07:51:45 PM hmorris lol merry christmas...
2019-12-05 07:51:50 PM rebeccarodriguez lol
2019-12-05 07:51:53 PM amandas lol
2019-12-05 07:51:58 PM francine lol
2019-12-05 07:52:00 PM jcullum lol
2019-12-05 07:52:07 PM kathyhughes and why....most of the staff would have tested positive...remember I worked in a very scary part of town
2019-12-05 07:52:12 PM cmccoy more like weery christmas
2019-12-05 07:52:35 PM merrellsherry i work in a place like that...sort of
2019-12-05 07:52:39 PM hmorris O.o well that escalated
2019-12-05 07:52:51 PM rebeccarodriguez I'm glad you moved on from that place Kathy!
2019-12-05 07:52:56 PM kaylenbaringer yea
2019-12-05 07:52:57 PM rebeccarodriguez bad news bears
2019-12-05 07:53:18 PM kathyhughes So that is my story for tonight....I retired after working there for 30+ years I was used to it
2019-12-05 07:53:25 PM francine I work in a pretty decent area and I have to say it can get shady here at times also
2019-12-05 07:53:26 PM kathyhughes I actually miss it
2019-12-05 07:54:21 PM cmccoy yea that's good and when we love our work it is easily missed i'm on vacation and i miss work already
2019-12-05 07:54:26 PM hmorris Thank you for sharing your experience, Kathy.
2019-12-05 07:54:26 PM kathyhughes So did I miss any questions tonight?
2019-12-05 07:54:26 PM kaylenbaringer ive only been with my company for 6 months but 2 years ago we had a nurse AND a resident OD at work
2019-12-05 07:54:35 PM rebeccarodriguez Kathy, would you consider opening up your own facility?
2019-12-05 07:54:39 PM merrellsherry thanks for the story. it makes me feel hopeful
2019-12-05 07:54:50 PM cmccoy great story
2019-12-05 07:55:00 PM jcullum I found your story very interesting and entertaining.
2019-12-05 07:55:05 PM kathyhughes No Rebecca that would be way too much work
2019-12-05 07:55:14 PM kaylenbaringer it would be alot of work!
2019-12-05 07:55:19 PM amandas have a great night! good luck with all the holidays! good night!
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2019-12-05 07:55:30 PM rebeccarodriguez We could be your staff
2019-12-05 07:55:45 PM hmorris Happy Holidays MEPAP2 PEEPS
2019-12-05 07:55:46 PM francine I learned from tonights chat that I need to be very specific and detailed when interviewing a volunteer
2019-12-05 07:55:58 PM kathyhughes Have a great week all
2019-12-05 07:56:02 PM merrellsherry me also
2019-12-05 07:56:05 PM cmccoy Same too all Happy Holidays
2019-12-05 07:56:07 PM kathyhughes thanks
2019-12-05 07:56:08 PM francine Bye everybody
2019-12-05 07:56:08 PM kaylenbaringer thanks for everything Kathy!
2019-12-05 07:56:10 PM rebeccarodriguez Thank you
2019-12-05 07:56:13 PM jcullum Thank you and you too!
2019-12-05 07:56:14 PM merrellsherry thanks , you too
2019-12-05 07:56:17 PM kathyhughes Thanks for joining me
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2019-12-05 07:56:24 PM kathyhughes hope you learned something
2019-12-05 07:56:24 PM cmccoy thank you
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2019-12-05 07:56:31 PM merrellsherry pleasure as always
2019-12-05 07:56:32 PM cmccoy we did a lot
2019-12-05 07:56:33 PM jesseshoemaker thank you Kathy
2019-12-05 07:56:37 PM hmorris thank you all. Good night!
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2019-12-05 07:56:47 PM jcullum Good night!
2019-12-05 07:56:47 PM jesseshoemaker good night everyone
2019-12-05 07:56:53 PM cmccoy Good night
2019-12-05 07:56:55 PM mloven good night
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2019-12-05 07:57:00 PM kathyhughes Good nIght All!
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